Welcome back to another Modest Monday, you goddamn beautiful creatures.
Yeah, starting off with a compliment, not entirely in CokeCan fashion but who gives a shit? I’m in a decent mood today. When you go through enough bullshit like I have in the past year, and then the weekend ends up proving that everything comes full circle to those that have wronged you, it’s easy to be in good spirits.
So first things first, I’d like to point out something I noticed recently. Every couple of months or so, we get someone that comes up in here swinging their dick around with a post that tries way too hard. We all know I have a certain style of writing, Vurve called it “abrasive,” and I have to agree. The difference between my posts, and these goddamn mongoloids we see every so often, is that by the end of my posts, you probably know what I was trying to convey to you. The name of the game is being tasteful with your aggression. Kinda like a dom/sub relationship. You can hurt them, but you gotta take care of them as well. What I’m getting at is this. If you want to write like me, that’s fine, but maybe lay off of the meth for a few minutes before you make your post, and please just make an effort to use whatever brain cells you may have left.
Anyway, on to the Modest Monday, which I think will quite literally help anyone that reads it all the way through. Whether you’re just mixing for yourself and have hit a bit of a creative roadblock, or you’re taking part in this fucking mess that we at Beginner Blending like to call a “contest,” recipe inspiration and conceptualization is one of the most important traits to have as a mixer. It’s what will allow you to create something unique, as opposed to yet another fucking strawberries and cream vape.
Yeah I’m calling myself out because my most recent recipe is a strawberries and cream, but fuck off because look at my history. I may not be the best mixer in the community, but I like to believe that I have some of the more unique recipes within the community. Who the fuck else is going to make a recipe inspired by some baby food? No one is that stupid.
Let’s start simple, with essentially how I began my mixing career. So once I got comfortable with the physical act of mixing and started understanding my flavours, I wanted to create things from scratch. Not just hopping on ELR or reddit, finding something that sounded good with what I had in my arsenal, and then mixing it up. So my first stop was the kitchen, more specifically, my recipe book. I have collected countless recipes over my years as a self-proclaimed chef, so I knew I would be able to find something. More than likely, you’re going to want to immediately flip over to that dessert section. Find something that sounds like it’d translate well into a vape, and start breaking down the individual ingredients. Lets look at my Drunken Pears recipe, for example, which was based off of a dessert I’ve been making for years.
So the real recipe is basically some pears that have been sautéed in a brown sugar / bourbon mixture to soften up and absorb all that sweetness and flavour, then tossed in the oven to bake for a little. While that’s going, I’m making some homemade caramel to drizzle over the final mix. The base for everything is a few scoops of vanilla bean ice cream. So based on this, we know that that main flavors we definitely need here are going to be pear, caramel, brown sugar, bourbon, and vanilla bean ice cream. And just like that, you’ve got yourself a nice foundation to start experimenting with. Since this post is focusing on the process of conceptualizing your recipes, I’m not going to get into the next phase, which is refining and focusing in on them, that’ll be a future Modest Monday post.
So let’s say you’re helpless in the kitchen and don’t have a list of recipes to gain inspiration from. Don’t worry, I got you. Well, you should probably worry a little, because everyone should know how to cook a decent meal. It ain’t hard, people. Just fucking practice. Get off the DIY sub and go find you a cooking sub for beginners and start doing that shit. Being able to cook a good meal is important for so many reasons. Number one, you save so much money by cooking for yourself. Number two, it’s healthier almost 100% of the time. Number three, if you’re a man, I guarantee that women will find it attractive that you can cook and you’ll probably get laid every once in a while. If you’re a woman, trust me, cook a good meal for a dude and you’ll be able to play his dumb ass for quite a while. Win win.
Anyway, back to mixing. If you don’t have a bunch of recipes to fuck around with, just go to a grocery store, restaurant, bakery, coffee shop, basically anywhere that you can get food at, and start taking notes. Just like you’d take flavour notes on recipes you mix for vaping, take notes on that basic ass pumpkin spice latte you’re drinking. What do you notice in there that you’d absolutely need to have in the vaping recipe in order to make it accurate? Go look in the frozen dessert section of the grocery store and find some shit you think sounds delicious. Take a look at the ingredient list, and match those ingredients with flavour concentrates. If you can break down the culinary version of whatever profile you’re trying to create into a sort of general flavour, background notes, and accents, you can turn it into a vape.
Alright, so these are just a few of the ways you can start to be inspired and begin conceptualizing your recipes. I know there are plenty of other ways to go about it, and share your preferred method in the comments. The main thing to remember is this, you don’t always have to go with the immediately obvious option. Think outside the box. The beauty of food and flavours in general is that they have the ability to be manipulated. Strange pairings end up becoming instant classics. I guarantee the first motherfucker to pour salt on their caramel was probably assumed to have some sort of mental instability. Now that shit is everywhere. Dipping apples in melted cheese? Get the fuck out with that nonsense. But actually don’t because once you try it, you realize it’s one of the most delicious things to grace your taste buds.
Life is weird as fuck, man, and sometimes the weirdest shit ends up being the best. So don’t be afraid to get a little weird. You’ll fuck up, but eventually, something beautiful will happen.
Now get the fuck out of here and get your recipes ready for the first round of MIXXED. And be sure to hang out with Vurve and I tonight at 9:15p EST on the Beginner Blending Podcast on the DIYorDIE network.
> Take a look at the ingredient list, and match those ingredients with flavour concentrates. If you can break down the culinary version of whatever profile you’re trying to create into a sort of general flavour, background notes, and accents, you can turn it into a vape.
Here's an older, but still awesome, post that goes into greater detail on this specific part of the process: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/2zh1a7/how_to_make_eliquid_out_of_anything/
Also worth noting that this isn't the only way to conceptualize recipes and find inspiration to create them. Single-flavor testing ([here's the Modest Monday post on that for anyone who missed it] (https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4fdevi/modest_monday_reviewing_flavors/)) will give you a chance to become intimately familiar with your flavor concentrates and pick out notes that will pair well with other flavor concentrates in your arsenal without regard to anything in the culinary universe, which is how we wind up with recipes like Grack Juice and other recipes by /u/Philosaphucker, u/Coop34's fantastic Kiwi Bourbon (4% FA Kiwi, 2% each TFA Kentucky Bourbon and Toasted Marshallow), Mother of Dragons' Milk, and if I had to guess, probably /u/wh1skeyk1ng's Stag Night in this month's monthly recipe thread, as well as many others. You don't have to use your flavors like ingredients in a chef's pantry, you can also approach them like colors on an artist's palette. edit: typo
I held off too long on making your MODM, just because to me it looked strange (just like KB). But it works! Not a mimic of anything I have ever ate/drank, but a tasty treat nonetheless. Just goes to show that I need to get "outside the box" more often.
If getting outside the box means making more things like KB, then yes. Yes, you do.
MODM isn't my proudest creation, mostly because I didn't put nearly as much work into it as some others, but people seem to really enjoy it and it's my most successful attempt to approach recipe creation in a way that's outside of my culinary comfort zone. TBH I thought of the name first, and then tried to make a juice I thought would be worthy of it based on what I thought would elevate a ridiculously high % of TFA Dragonfruit.
Thanks for the mention! Stag Night actually came about simply because I was getting rather bored with the culinary aspect of mixing at the time. I stepped back, looked at all of my non fruit and cream ingredients, and came up with that. I really wanted to push the limit of FA Torrone most of all, because it's probably my favorite flavor, and I ended up being really impressed with the end result. I can't say enough about its unique yet enjoyable flavor profile. Definitely a good one to mix up and have around for something different.
Thanks for the mention and your contribution to the discussion.
One of my favorite challenges lately is open-sourcing my inspiration. I do this by picking a flavor I want to learn more about, heading over to the telegram DIYEjuice chat, and asking for someone to pick a random fruit. I will then go ahead and try to make a pleasant tasting recipe that gets those two to work together. My success varies in degree, but I learn valuable things about my concentrates nonetheless. It beats the shit out of single-flavor testing, in my opinion. Yes, single-flavor testing gives you the most accurate impression of the concentrate, but my shortcut is way more fun!
> Life is weird as fuck, man, and sometimes the weirdest shit ends up being the best.
Maybe this is what my dad was trying to teach me when he packed me peanut butter, lettuce and mustard sandwiches for lunch in middle school?
good post. I for one get inspiration from my wife's horrible cooking/baking contest shows. On some of those shows they have to think WAY outside of the box. I still think it is garbage entertainment, but useful for mixing inspiration. Has anyone ever made a maple-bacon cocoa dusted donut?
This might be a good start for some inspiration on the maple-bacon donut.
Thank you so much for this terribly exciting post! Your nod to referencing cook books for inspiration speaks to me on a molecular level.
Two recipes I'd love to clone are from Brooke Dojny's "The New England Cookbook". They have become my white whales.
I'd like to make an Indian Pudding juice, but I feel like I really, really, really need some sort of neutral "corn" flavor. Not popcorn, not kettle corn, but some sort of simple, toasty cornmeal type flavor, to authentically pull it off. (see also the possibility of a buttery cornbread juice, because Mmm-mmm!) If anyone has any leads on a profile that comes close to that, I'm all ears!
The other thing I'd like to mix is something that approximates Brown Bread. Like Indian Pudding, it's another discouragingly labor-intensive food that I like to make a few times every year around Fall/Winter, but, again, this calls for flavor notes that I don't think we already have at our fingertips. Most notably molasses and rye (the flour, not the booze). I have a feeling /u/skiddlzninja's Bangin' Bourbon Bread would take so much out of the guesswork out of the base for that one!
I am not the first person to recommend this here, nor will I be the last, but, few things are more exciting than pawing through a copy of "The Flavor Bible" by Andrew Dornenburg and Karen A. Page for inspiration. It's certainly not going to cover every flavor you have in your arsenal, nor is it going to address those amazing instincts you develop as a mixer to mash up flavors that defy reason, yet you just know will work together, but it's an invaluable resource as far as honing your flavor-fu skills goes.
For rye, I'd actually use an anise flavor dilution, they shar a lot of the same flavors, just one is much lighter
Wow, you're right about anise, and I'm kicking myself for not catching that. Any thoughts on percentages? 5% or 10%?
Also, any good leads on something molasses-y? I was thinking I could kinda' fake it out with TFA Brown Sugar, but, is there anything darker than that, and less sweet?
Iv never used AP for it but my understanding from beginner blending, AP can taste like corn chips when used at higher percentages. If I remember right it starts getting that flavor above 2%
Oh man. I feel like AP might be the thing, but I see many revisions in my future.
I get a good amount of inspiration from those shitty buzzfeed food videos, sometimes the recipe sounds amazing so I try and recreate it in vape form. Recently I just googled for desserts and am currently on a V1 of a juice that I think is going to be phenomenal. I am using new flavors I got though so there is much testing needed to be done.
Just listened to the podcast with Rob from the UK talking about troubles getting FA Fuji in the UK and just wanted to point out (if he reads this or any other guys in the UK) that FA have a UK distributor (Flavourart.co.uk) and is obviously a great source for FA concentrates at the same price (cheaper for bulk) as the likes of chefsflavours etc. 6x 10ml bottles for £17.00 direct from FA.UK with excellent delivery and customer service.
Really couldn't understand Rob saying that FA Fuji is difficult to obtain in the UK,it's the easiest flavour to find.
Yea, I find most flavours are pretty easy to get here in the UK. Jungle Flavours was a pain but now ChefsFlavours are stocking limited ones. I am finding it hard to source the newer Flavorah ones and if only we could get some of that Holy Vanilla!