Oh, absolutely. I usually use Wizard Labs as the quality has been great for me personally. I know people had issues a year or so ago, though. I have had hesitation with NN simply because of the long shipping times and the horror stories I have read.

Really wanted to get VW Nic for the science. I was curious, and others on the sub were as well. I could have eaten the shipping from somewhere else, but someone had to make the leap.

I wonder if mixing with this will add that delicious semen taste I've been looking for.

Is it just the city girl in me, or should "wonderful" not have been within 1,000 miles of the rest of that sentence?!

Same. No one ever talks about Heartland imo (it's always Nude, Wizard, Carolina, etc. but I can't tell a real difference lol). I love Heartland. I've never had a single goddamned problem with them, and with all the issues and controversies that spring up around these companies, Heartland is my go-to now (and has been for some time) specifically because they're easy to work with and everything is on point.

So it's odd to me that no one ever shows them any love. You're like the only other person I've ever even heard talk about em lol.

I have a bottle of Heartland nic filled between 1/4-1/3 that's like 6 months old that hasn't ever been frozen, hasn't ever been refrigerated, nothing. It's not brown, has no off smell, etc. It's completely oxidized like it was brand new or something lol. It was kind of an experiment to see how fast it would oxidize if I tried to limit it's exposure, and it's absolutely fine, so I'm still using it lol.

So when I hear about this kind of stuff, I just don't understand... Did they just let it sit in a vat oxidizing for hours or something before packaging it?

That's what I'm saying. I have some Wizard Labs nic that is still clear, and it's two months old. All I did was put the 120ml bottle in the freezer and pulled it out to fill my working bottle when needed. We'll see what happens, though. They already shipped out the new order, so we shall know in a few days what is what.

Mine came in with a pinkish tint to it, but vapes just fine.. I've had it in a freezer for around a year now and it hasn't degraded as far as i can tell.

There's no batch number, so there's no way to tell. I was kinda surprised by that.

They absolutely have decent products, and the CS is amazing. I exclusively vaped their juice for about a year. The nic just wasn't up to snuff.

I figured I would contact them, and I'll update this if it's a one time thing. In the meantime, I wanted to let people know... I've never received nic this bad before, and I'm kind of a sad panda right now, Sad Panda.

Honestly, I think they definitely have the bottles of nic pre-made. I ordered at about 3pm EST and they shipped it out at about 11pm EST the same day. It would explain the weirdly fast shipping and the oxidation.

It came in a clear PET bottle with no batch numbers or anything. There was no real seal on it. There is a seal in the cap, but it is not very functional, as the cap slides up and down freely (it won't come off, but it raises and lowers about half an inch or so just like the screw on cap for a bottle of juice in a plastic bottle). Sitting around in a clear bottle with no proper seal for awhile will definitely destroy the nic.

several years in the freezer (should be several years even without freezing but in a dark place)

It will be as glorious as the day you bought it.

I've tried several different brands but I've had better luck with CX. My go to Nicotine, despite being more on the expensive side.

You've got to consider that it's been in the upper 90s in Texas until this week. Depending on what shipping method was used and how far away he was, the heat could play a significant part in this.

Absolutely, Skiddlz. I was just about to do that, actually. One moment and I'll update the post.

There ya go!

A couple more things you may wish to think about. Just suggestions.

1. Amber bottles for the nicotine. Doesn't necessarily have to be glass, as shipping glass is dangerous as it is, let alone with concentrated nicotine inside. The amber color will stop UV light from getting into the bottles. UV light WILL break the nicotine down.

2. Seal the bottles properly. The only seal on the bottle is in the cap (which is not a polycone lined phenolic cap). The seals as they are do not seal the bottle air tight. It does not allow leaking, but air is definitely still getting inside the bottles, causing oxidation.

3. This may be a stretch, but I think I'm spot on... Make the nicotine to order. Judging by how quickly you shipped out the nicotine (same day), these bottles were pre-made and sitting around before any order was placed. Typically when I order nicotine from a vendor, it takes 2-3 days alone tfor them to process and batch the order (which they combine orders, I'm sure), and then it will ship. This ensures fresh nicotine every time. I would much rather wait a couple days and get clear, fresh nicotine than receive what is in the photos in my original post.

4. Offer 100mg/ml in PG as well as the VG blend you already carry. VG nicotine is very difficult to work with, hence why most DIYers I know use nicotine in 50vg/50pg or just 100% PG as the carrier.

If it works for you and doesn't taste bad, there's no reason to toss it. There are definitely better vendors for all of your DIY needs, though. Nic should be clear. The fact that they advertise with a picture of oxidized nic is a little odd.

It's definitely oxidized. It's supposed to be clear. I used it, and there is definitely an off note due to the oxidation. If it works for you, use it. It's cheap, but there is no need to waste. If the next batch they send is the same, I'm going to be a bit upset, but I'm not out a fortune. I typically use Wizard Labs, and have always had good experiences with them. They're honestly around the same price, so I would check them out. The last I looked , 120ml of 100mg/ml nic was $15 something at WL.