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Don't you love when a clone recipe you come up with works out 1st try?
submitted almost 9 years ago by A-LoneTree

Ive been searching high and low across the interweb for a Seneca clone recipe but to of no avail did I ever find any luck in that. Nobody has ever even discussed this idea.

I decided to try some percentages based off how prominent I thought certain bases were in the original flavor, topped with 1.5% Koolada and after a day of steeping I instantly got that Seneca rush I've been praying for!

Anybody else ever experience this with your own personal clone attempts??

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by GTManiKalmost 9 years ago

Honestly, and apologize if this sounds like a thread derailment, but I'm done with clone recipe chasing. In particular, because most of good original liquids in my country are too expensive (and this just kills the whole idea of vaping for me). Of course it's always a kinda good exercise to both your taste receptors and perfumers skills, but what I do these days is just take a shot glass of water and drip a few drops of this and that (a little imagination required) until I get a result I was looking for. Then I mix using 1 drop = 1 flavor % formula...

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

No need to apologize! The great thing about DIY is that we all do it for different reasons and we all have our own methods of mixology brainstorming.

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by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

IMO, cloning does suck... Not that I've tried a ton of new commercial juices lately, but I've become frustrated with one and have basically given up due to the potential amount of sugar syrup and sweetener that is probably in it. (Beard No. 32 if you care) I'd rather come up with my own tasty juice than waste $100 on flavorings just to find out they aren't right and become stumped.

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

That definitely makes sense, im all about saving money thats why I started DIY. But if you know you have the right flavors laying around to clone one of your favorite juices it could potentially be worth a shot.

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by WorstAdviceROCalmost 9 years ago

Yes, indeed. I just nailed Liquid State Apple Butter on the first try, and I've only not made a recipe thread because, well, notes? What notes? I guessed, nailed it (at least for my palate and that of the 5 other I let try it). I mean, I'm as novice as they come, but I'm REALLY damn happy with the results.

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by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

What's the recipe, if you don't mind.

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by WorstAdviceROCalmost 9 years ago

Ok, instead of formatting, here's the ATF link.

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/share/fd953fae-ad8b-4ba1-8993-e8ced466810d

Please feel free to provide criticism, as I have an awfully muted sense of taste. I was a 4-5 pack per day smoker, and 6mos later, hopefully my taste buds are starting to recover.

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by MrGrimReaper2Ualmost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Yes. I would love to see that, as well.

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by contactclosurealmost 9 years ago

I'd like to try it as well.

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by WorstAdviceROCalmost 9 years ago

I'm heading home as we speak, once I'm on a PC I'll give it a shot, as I've never posted a recipe, and don't know a thing about reddit formating, especially on a cell phone.

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by contactclosurealmost 9 years ago

Awesome. Thanks!

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by GhunzNAalmost 9 years ago

If you have the recipe set out could you pm it to me?

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by character_1101almost 9 years ago

Care to share the recipe which turns out great ?

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago
  • Grape Juice(TPA) 6%
  • Koolada 1.5%
  • Pineapple(TPA) 3%
  • Watermelon(TPA) 1.5%

Let me know what you think!

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by character_1101almost 9 years ago

Thanks ... will you recommend a steeping period or is it a shake and vape ?

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

I gave mine 1-2 days before it was ready, it wasnt quite there yet as a shake and vape

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by MrBurgundy314almost 9 years ago

I've had bad luck with TPA Grape Juice even though I want to like it. Do you find it perfume-y at 6% in this recipe or do the pineapple and watermelon help calm that down? I'm writing this down because I want to try it.. Thanks for sharing.

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by contactclosurealmost 9 years ago

I've tried a lot of grapes and I find it one of the easiest to work with. 2-5% for me depending on its role and bed mates. Hangsen Grape is my favorite on its own but TFA GJ is a safer bet in mixes.

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

Even though the Pineapple is only at 3%, it definitely overpowers all the other flavors. You can barely taste the Grape Juice its just there because it pairs so well with the Koolada.

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by 474D2almost 9 years ago

Mixed this up a few days ago, I haven't had the original but it tastes pretty damn good.

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

Hey thanks man, glad you enjoyed it

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by tehmassalmost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Its really all about how well rounded your pallet is with the flavors you are using. If you know what you are tasting a close to duplicate wouldn't be hard to calculate. Basically your teaching your tongue new tricks each batch.

This is the way I look at mixin and i've been doing it for around a year now. I'm still expanding my recipe collection and trying not to buy many new flavors and just use what I have, so one day I will be as good of a mixer as the cook i am. That took 10+ years in the industry so i have time :D

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by Smelly_Rabbitalmost 9 years ago

Holy shit dude. You're my savior. I've been searching high and low for this recipe. I go through a 250 ml a month of this stuff and now I'll be able to indulge instead of holding back.

Quick question though. Have you tried it with menthol instead of koolada? I haven't mixed this yet but I always thought Seneca (colden now) was menthol.

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

You're welcome man, I was in the exact same boat as you!

Im almost positive that they use Koolada in the original Seneca because in my opinion its just a cool exhale instead of a strong minty one.

You'll have to try my recipe out though and let me know what you think!

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by danielfromparisalmost 9 years ago

Alone, dude, this is one of my favorite recipes, ever!!!! I did mix 30ml a few weeks ago, tried the bottle last day and Im still amazed, delicious, amongst my top 10 or top 5 liquids atm. Thanks a lot, really, thanks (just a note, I did reduce the koolada to 0.5 or 0.7, 1.5 seemed too much for my taste)

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

Thanks man! So you thought the recipe was pretty good other than the Koolada percentage?

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by danielfromparisalmost 9 years ago

one of the best recipes Ive found on this forum in 2 years :)

thanks man (do you have any other recipes? I wanna try them all :) )

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years ago

Trying to clone another juice is über boring IMO

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

I wholeheartedly agree with you, Its much better to create your own recipe that's dialed in to your flavor preferences.

Its just in this particular instance I was hoping to recreate my personal favorite juice so that I would never have to pay premium prices whenever I crave it. And I achieved it!

I think there's always going to be premium flavors that people love from their early vaping days and every once in a while its nice to be able to recreate that nostalgia.

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by DGsirb1978almost 9 years ago

How about that recipe?

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by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

It depends, I guess the process can be a little boring and it's almost like a game of guess the flavoring. But when you do hit the same flavour profile, there's this awesome feeling of fulfillment.

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by thattswhatshesaidalmost 9 years ago

I totally agree. If the same energy was put into making amazing original recipes we wouldn't need to bother with clones. Whatever floats your boat at the end of the day, but I don't ever buy commercial juice- not even as a reference. Just take that energy and try to make something original with it. I was having a good time making a doctor pepper "clone" the other day though (koolada, cherry blossom, black cherry, and French vanilla came very close to nailing it- just need something for the carbonation, and a "brighter" cherry, which could also just be a touch of strawberry)

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by KR213almost 9 years ago

Make sure to post if you find a good carbonator! Champagne is good but so sour that it's very limiting.

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by A-LoneTreealmost 9 years ago

Was just gonna suggest Champagne for that carbonation as well, I know there's a good Baja Blast recipe that calls for champagne to give it that bubbly feel.

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