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The Lab: Before & After
submitted over 8 years ago by ApexifiedDiketones, Schmiketones

The Lab

People seemed to dig my setup last time I posted it in a thread about organizing flavors. Well I finally got around to making some of the changes I had in mind and organizing a bit more.

I'm a better mixer than carpenter (I hope) but I'm stoked with how everything came together and even more excited to jump in and create new mixes than I was before.

Hopefully ya'll still dig it and I don't get crucified for the desk check.

Bonus recipe: Blue Frost

Ingredient|% :---|---: Blue Raspberry Slush (OSDIY) | 8 Blue Raspberry Cotton Candy (CAP)|1 Pink Champagne (FW)|2 Raspberry (Flavorah)|1 Raspberry (Sweet) (TPA)|1.5 Razzleberry (FW)|1 Strawberry (TPA)|2 Sweetener (Sucralose) (TPA)|1

The Blue Raspberry: OSDIY's One-Hit Wonder is really supposed to be a standalone flavor. I found it to be lacking even when pushed to 10-15% standalone. So began the addition of a supporting cast, to round out the profile.

Blue Raspberry Cotton Candy is more of an extra than an actor. At higher percentages, standalone, it's like TFA Circus Cotton Candy with hints of Blue Jolly Rancher's. I used it here to boost the candied notes of the BRS.

The Superfluous Raspberries: TFA Raspberry Sweet & FLV Raspberry play nice together. TFA is artificial and sweet while FLV is realistic and sweet. Paired up you're able to double down on the sweetness while adding a nice rounded raspberry note.

The Oddities: FW Pink Champagne made it into this mix because I was using it in another recipe and enjoyed the unique and subtle flavor it added along with the slightly prickly carbonated feeling it leaves on your tongue.

Razzleberry is... unnecessary. It seems to have slipped in at some point like someone crashing a party and then sitting quietly in the corner. Why leave it in? Because it's not doing anything "wrong". The recipe is solid right now and I haven't mixed it up without the razzleberry yet, so I'm not really sure what will happen. /u/enyawreklaw says it should get the axe, so I'll probably give that a shot.

Epilogue: This was my best selling recipe for a time and the recipe with the most revisions. I won't list all the failures because this post is long enough and honestly I can't remember them all (note to self: take better notes). If you've been searching for a Blue Raspberry, OSDIY makes a great base to work from. Thanks for reading my crappy flavor notes :)

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by WickAndWireover 8 years agoMixologist

I like it! Where did you get the mountable-racking?

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I got it on eBay. I'll give you the link when I'm not mobile.

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Here you go :)

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by bionicbackover 8 years ago

Def need the link here, too 😊

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by MintyModsover 8 years ago

Totally awesome setup! I saved the previous picture of your setup to wind up a few online mates who kept taking the piss that I would spend money on flavour concentrates and you just keep on improving it. This is going to make many mixers envy you that is for sure!

Can I ask how you plan on using so many concentrates before the expiration dates which after searching and sidebar-ing seems to be approx 1-2years (6 months for TFA Sweet Cream!)? I have quite a few myself now and only seem to use small amounts of each but admit an addiction for having the same flavour from multiple different brands. I have 17 different Strawberries but there are still more I could have...

Thanks for the recipe which god damn it contains one I don't have... Allways at least one!

EDIT: Blue Raspberry Slush (OSDIY) is the one I don't have

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by tranceinateover 8 years agoIn a good mood for now - don't piss me off.

Idk about 6 months for sweet cream. Maybe if you left it in plastic in the heat. Mine is 2+ years old now, still in glass, & still smells exactly the same as the day I got it. As far as I'm concerned, it hasn't aged a day.

He's either going to sell it all in juice, or he's not gunna use it all(more than likely). It happens. It's okay. I still have some 3 year old concentrates laying around just because.

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by MintyModsover 8 years ago

Thanks for the advice - the sweet cream was based on some notes directly from the TFA site "Shelf life is at least 6 months from when we ship it to you." and some comments seen on ELR. Glad to hear yours has aged a little better as I have 100ml of that one. I don't have any in glass at the moment so that is something I will look into for all my concentrates or at least the ones I have in larger quantities/containers.

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

A few months ago I stumbled across a bottle of sweet cream from MBV dated Dec 2013. It was about half full. I used it and didn't notice anything off about it. Granted it's likely FW, so perhaps TFA uses some ingredient that's less shelf stable.

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Thanks, man.

Any flavors that manage to expire probably won't be missed all that much. I do have a backlog a mile long for single flavor testing reviews and the majority of the flavors in my arsenal have been used for at least one recipe. At this point it's kind of a cautionary tale: You don't have to buy them all. But I do anyway.

I also mix for a bunch of other people and generally end up giving away about as much as I sell. If a recipe looks good or the creator looks like they put a lot of work into it, I mix it. If I'm not a big fan, I pass it along. If it's awesome, I mix up a bunch to give away as samples.

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by MintyModsover 8 years ago

Yea I know what you mean. I have a load purchased with recipes in mind and some which just sounded nice and made up the difference to get free shipping. What with all the great recipes here and the influx of Waynes recent mixing competition I have so much juice steeping I won't need to mix for months, yet I still want to mix this one up if I can obtain some Blue Slush!

Some concentrate prove hard to obtain here in the UK such as the OSDIY Slush and that Holy Vanilla which I so want to try

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by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

Cautionary tale indeed. I stand behind my DIY "scared straight" idea from the first time you exposed us to this. Unfortunately, the sweet new setup looks less like the lair of a crazed mixing maniac and more like that of a merely obsessive flavor hoarder, so that would be somewhat less effective now.

I don't know what else I can say about BLUE FROST that I didn't already put into ATF review. If I contract synesthesia I hope it's what the color blue tastes like.

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I hope you contract synesthesia ;)

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by [deleted]over 8 years ago

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^0.5327 > What is this?

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by Evilution602over 8 years ago

Nice lab, that overhead cabinet seems to sag where the support was removed. I'd keep an eye on that situation.

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

It was doing that with the support there. The boards spanning across the top are 3/4" tongue and groove, it took about a hundred years for it to sag that much, I'm not overly concerned considering how little I have stored overhead.

Appreciate the concerns, though :)

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by thedirtyprojectorover 8 years agoMixologist

I'm green with envy! And you've got me really curious. Do you mix full time? Or is this just a pastime gone wrong? Either way, I really love your set-up. I'm currently looking for a new apartment and I will be renovating a guest room into a mix room. Hopefully it'll be half as cool as yours.

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

A whole room? Imagine the possibilities. I have a guest room but it seems that one sibling or another keeps needing a place to stay.

I'm hovering around the level of a legit business but I don't charge much for my wares. I prefer to make enough to support my compulsive need for more flavors and my desire to put good recipes in people's tanks.

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by Hodorhohodorover 8 years ago

Looks good, where did you get the large juice racks on the left and right? Edit: since you say you're a carpenter I assume you made them. Anyway what materials did you use? Measurements?

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

The family business is residential remodeling but I haven't really done much of that in 10 years or so. The only thing I actually made was a really hack job frame for the desk top to sit on and the unimpressive shelf for my 4oz bottles. The racks on the doors are acrylic and you can get them here.

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by Hodorhohodorover 8 years ago

You da man! Thank you

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by Vurveover 8 years agoVurve with the Swurve

The setup to end all setups.

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by iKrunkover 8 years ago

Daaaaaaaaaaamn, That is legit as fuck. Nicely done.

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by CheebaSteebaover 8 years agoFrugivore

Nice set up man, I love the idea of hide-away flavors in the doors. I see the propanediol there (I think anyway), I just got that in but haven't messed with it yet. How do you like it?

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I've mixed up a few bottles for some PG sensitive people to see if it was an improvement for them. I still need to mix up a recipe I know well enough to analyze the difference. Might do that in a min. Melon Mix seems like a good place to start :)

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by CheebaSteebaover 8 years agoFrugivore

Haha, good idea =) I'm in the same boat, been vaping so much different stuff lately it's hard to find a constant variable, but I'm pretty familiar with that one so I think that will do just fine.

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by 510Threadedover 8 years ago

Build log please, I am moving in a few months into my first apartment to be a lot closer to work and college (its currently a 40 mins drive to work) and I want a setup like this albeit a little smaller and how do the ones on the doors not fall when opening and closing?

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Not really enough building for me to keep a log. I got lucky and found a desk top that fit perfectly inside the closet. I screwed in some ledger strips and cut the frame in the middle to the right height. Voila. If you want links to any of the stuff, I'd be happy to point you in the right direction.

They bottles don't fall because the shelves have ledges.

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by 510Threadedover 8 years ago

Ah, thanks man

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by mlNikonover 8 years ago

I think razzleberry is essential in a blue raspberry candy anything, it is a very sweet "blue" flavor.

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by RedditorDeLaNocheover 8 years ago

Killing the game! How's that PDO working out for you?

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by ScottyDaQover 8 years ago

Mother of God!

I have the same scale. What do you use the bowl that came with it for?

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by Pravus_Beluaover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I too use this scale, and I use the bowl.

Mainly I use it as insurance due to my unfortunate tendency to drop/spill things. If I spill while putting liquids into whatever I'm filling they end up in the bowl and not all over my scale/table.

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by Pravus_Beluaover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Thank you for the recipe, blue raspberry types are one of my favorites, I look forward to trying this one out. I do have a couple questions about it though, from the perspective of a newby when it comes to mixing.

When looking at recipes such as this, how is one to know what PG:VG ratio is best for it? Is this strictly a personal preference thing, or is there a 'golden rule' of sorts that people follow?

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Typically it will be up to your personal preference. If the creator found it works best at a particular ratio, they'll usually mention that somewhere in the notes.

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by Psyshadow117over 8 years ago

This is seriously amazing. I'm jealous ;)

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by sd_junglistover 8 years ago

Bad ass set up OP. Impressive!

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by KG3Dover 8 years ago

What an awesome setup. Can I come over for a (VPD) Vape Play Date? ;)

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