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Can we talk about TFA Red Oak?
submitted about 9 years ago by thedirtyprojectorMixologist

Recently, Wayne from DIYORDIE did a pretty informative review with Charlie Topolski, or /u/prettymatthew here on Reddit. One of the questions Wayne asked was his top three favourite flavorings. He mentioned two other non-descript ones but the one that really grabbed my attention was TFA Red Oak.

From my understanding and research, TFA Red Oak is similar to FA Oakwood on the sense that it imparts a oak-steeped taste into your brews. It's also known to add a woody undertones to tobacco (something Charlie Noble is known for.) This might be from one of those obscure flavours that fell off the radar.

I'm just curious if anyone here has experience with this flavoring? I would get it myself but it's completely sold out at my local vendor.

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by SolanaceaeEnthusiastabout 9 years ago

Not much to report, it gets a rotation as an adjunct in some of my artificial tobacco concoctions but it doesn't do anything standout "wow"

One thing to note, I actually considered little oak casks to impart this flavor and then tasted juice which had been steeped inside one and decided our artificial options suffice - so as someone who has had tobacco ejuice that was actually casked in a charred oak barrel and has used fa oakwood and tfa red oak I can say they definitely did a proper job with it.

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by Enyawreklawabout 9 years agoCreator - Best Recipe of 2015: Rhodonite

That's interesting. How do you go about filtering the eliquid once the aging is done? Is it worth the effort?

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by SolanaceaeEnthusiastabout 9 years ago

Micron filter papers and an aeropress. I have a vacuum filter rig but , its benefit is just time saving with big batches at the end of the day

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by thattswhatshesaidabout 9 years ago

I wanna seeeeee. If you're ever in the mood you should post how you did it. I have been researching cask steeping for quite some time but there's no good info on it and I refuse to buy Five Pawns, the only juice I know of that claims to casket steep.

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by underdogadamabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Nuts, I barrel everything from beer to coffee at home but something about barreled ejuice doesn't feel safe to me.

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by SolanaceaeEnthusiastabout 9 years ago

Its definitely adding things that you dont need and from ehat I tasted it wasn't worth either the risk or the hassle

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by thedirtyprojectorabout 9 years agoMixologist

Hey, thanks for the helpful reply. Do you pick up any discernible difference between Red Oak and Oakwood? Also, what percentage did you use it at in your mixes? Less than 1%?

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by SolanaceaeEnthusiastabout 9 years ago

I use them interchangeably but its not like anise where theyre actually the exact same , its just they both accomplish the same thing on my end so I dont care. I couldnt expand on the difference without making some up.

1% or less , I never made up either one in series to see where the real sweet spot is so that might be too little

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by thedirtyprojectorabout 9 years agoMixologist

Great, this flavoring has my interest piqued. I definitely need to pick it up and see what it does to baccos.

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by tournantabout 9 years agoMixologist

I use it in a few juices. Pairs well with tobacco and chocolate. It brings a little earthiness which I enjoy.

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by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Hey, I just saw this. Sorry for the late reply. Have you explore FA Oakwood? Or do you personally feel TFA Oak Wood is adequate for imparting that particular flavor.

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by tournantalmost 9 years agoMixologist

I haven't tried FA Oakwood, no.

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by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

What percentage do you typically use Red Oak at? I'm trying to emulate the Oak taste but can't taste much at 1%

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by KG3Dabout 9 years ago

I hear it goes well with this;

http://onlineshop.aabaits.co.uk/bait-product/Smoked%20Sardine%20Concentrate/

SWEET & SOUR SMOKED SARDINE

TFA Red Oak 1%

AAB Smoked Sardine 8%

TPA Sweetener 3.5%

TPA Sour 1%

shake and puke certified

...honestly though, besides Castle Long clone(s) I have not found a use. However, I am also an amateur.

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by Rilamizabout 9 years ago

Nothing to really do with this but whats the mod at 18:47 the dude is holding. Looks pretty nice if those are pods that you can fill yourself.

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by prettymatthewalmost 9 years agoTobacconist

It's the CYNC from Vape Forward/Vapor Flask. That was the 2.5mL stealth battery & pod. They're supposed to be disposable pods. I've refilled a few, with mixed results. It's not a bad setup, but I picked up an iCare Mini & haven't really used my CYNC, JuuL, or myJet since.

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by aelweroabout 9 years ago

Comes off as sweet for me personally. I've tried it as an accent for cigar flavors and all I get is notes of sweet style barbecue. It's not bad, but I'm not a fan. The only thing I've found to add "earthy" or "woody" for me is IN little space drop.

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by coryperryabout 9 years ago

I've used TFA Red Oak in a couple of base tobacco mixes, but literally just a filler to add some texture. I've been using 2-3 drops per 10ml.

I've been adding this to a couple of Turkish bases and a Red Burley base that I am working on. It kinda comes off as sweet, but not much of an earthy tone that I've been able to get so far. I haven't experimented with it nearly enough, but when I heard Matt mention it in the video, it sparked me to hopefully get back to testing it a little more thoroughly.

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by thedirtyprojectorover 8 years agoMixologist

I can't taste anything below 1%. It seems like 2% is my sweet spot.

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by MikeLynoalmost 9 years ago

I saw that interview and was also intrigued (picture of top of head being blown off) with Red Oak being one of Matt's 3 best flavorings. Of all the flavorings that Matt must have used at Charles Nobel and he puts that one in his top three. Sure must be something to that but I'll be damned if I know what the hell to do with it! Very mysterious Matt! Maybe/hopefully in the future he will release another recipe with that flavoring in it so we can check it out. I'm curious as all get out. I'm suspecting he's using it as an accent like acetyl pryrazine or sweetener. Secrets secrets.

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by thedirtyprojectorover 8 years agoMixologist

> Of all the flavorings that Matt must have used at Charles Nobel and he puts that one in his top three.

It's his own personal favorites, not sorted by flavors used in Charlie Noble's line. He has explicitly mentioned that he does not use Red Oak in the line.

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