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TPA/TFA SweetTANGY - a scumbag flavor review for my fellow misguided mixers.
submitted about 9 years ago by RuntDastardlyOne of "The Damned"

If you're anything like me, you probably wanted to make a PixyStix, Razzles, Nerds or SweetTarts juice at some point.

And, if you're anything like me, you've punched more than a few holes in the wall in impotent frustration as a result. You should know that it's not you, it's your flavors. It happens to all mixers at some point. It's not a big deal. It's cool, really. We can just cuddle (and talk dirty, I hope).

Anyway, I'm rocking 8 wraps, kanthal, on a 2.0mm single, spaced coil, at around 20 watts on an RTA. I explored it up to 30 for this review, but I'm always around 18-23 watts tops. I feel weird even disclosing that, because it feels like a dirty secret, but I realize it's important for flavor reviews, so, here I am. This is me. I like high builds and I cannot lie, and battery life can't be denied.

3% after a 3-day steep - Dear jesus, this is awful. I might actually go to my next High School reunion and waste some of this this on some bottom-shelf plastic-jug vodka with TFA Grape Juice or FW Grapeberry Ice and tell 'em it's Everclear Purple Passion! LOL!

But seriously, Everything said about this flavor is 100% true, BUT... it's worth noting that if you already have this flavor, you kind of can work with it, and make something sorta' vapeable. The secret? A 10-day steep.

Is it still chalky/powdery? Yes, but in exactly the way that Razzles, SweetTarts, PixyStix and all that other bullshit candy is. Before that, it's hellacious. Bitter, harsh and noxious. After that? No moreso than the junk candies it's trying to emulate already are.

To see what I mean, try this:
5% FA Forest Fruit
2% FW Sour
3% TPA SweetTANGY

Mix it at 70/30 VG/PG, shake the hell out of it, DO NOT heat/breathe-steep it, just close it up tight, hide it somewhere temperate and dark, and come back to it in 10 days or so after another good shake. It's a dead-nuts-on Sour Berry SweetTart.

Is it great? Nope. Is it good? Yeah, actually. Better than any premium SweetTart-type juice I've bought.

There are a million tastier things you can mix up out there, but as far as that powdery junk candy? You can't do better than TFA SweetTANGY.

Sour just doesn't translate into ejuice yet. As /u/enyawreklaw has already explained. For now, this'll do. 4-stars from me, with all aforementioned reservations.

If you don't already have this flavor, seriously, don't buy it for this. It's gah-bige, as my people would say. Take that FA Forest Fruit and use it it any one of a bah-zillion better recipes.

I hope this review is helpful to all the poor suckers, like me, who bought this, hoping for a sour junk-candy vape.

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6 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorabout 9 years agoMixologist

TFA SweetTANDY = TFA Sweet and Tart, folks. Great recipe, btw.

2 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

Thank you, I was wondering if those were the same. And my experience mimics his pre-steep experience lol.

3 points
 
by Paleone123about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I've never heard of this, is it new? Sweet and Tart smells like straight sweet tart candy but I haven't tried mixing with it yet.

2 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

its at least 10 months old, and before that, it might've been called SweetTart or Sweet and Tart if that helps.

3 points
 
by VAPORMARKabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

There is no TFA SweetTangy.

2 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Right you are. It's Sweet & Tart, now.

3 points
 
by Philosaphuckerabout 9 years agoFrugivore

People say that SweeTangy doesn't exist or is the same thing as TFA Sweet and Tart. Thing is, I have vaped both of these side by side at the same percentages and they are different formulations for sure. Idk wtf is going on there, but they do taste differently.

Edit: I got SweeTangy from ECX (Signature flavors).

2 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Yeah, my SweetTangy is from ECX, too. Is Sweet & Tangy as dry/chalky as SweetTangy?

4 points
 
by Philosaphuckerabout 9 years agoFrugivore

The chalky-ness is about the same for both. SweeTangy has more of an initial bite then Sweet and Tart, though (which turns out more like smarties).

edit: my Sweet and Tart was from Wizard Labs, btw.
Edit2: Oh and ECX was the only one carrying this 'SweeTangy' (whatever it actually is) at the time a year ago and they are the only ones that seem to have it now.

3 points
 
by jdrocker77about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Thanks for the review! Unfortunately, I already have this and never even bothered to use it in a mix. I was so turned off by it.

I tested this at 3%, after 7 days and only described it as CHALK.

3 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I vaped it from day 3 on, and, i swear, something happened on day 10. It suddenly got... Tolerable? But, you're right, excruciatingly chalky before that.

3 points
 
by inclination64609about 9 years ago

A simple recipe that I've been doing. Both are TFA flavors.

15% Double Kiwi

2-3% Sweet and Tart

I do it at a 70/30 vg/pg with 3mg nic. Comes out pretty tasty, and is shake and vape worthy. Definitely better after some steep time, but good enough if you're out of juice and need a quick batch.

Edit: Also, I do use a hotplate magnetic mixer. Not sure if that makes a difference in the end product. I like to think it does, but I haven't bothered mixing any of my recipes without it to compare.

3 points
 
by upvotedeeznutsabout 9 years ago

If you're rockin 8 wraps, we're doin more than just cuddling.

3 points
 
by thattswhatshesaidabout 9 years ago

Woah, you're from Dorchester? Ha, I'm right by St. Marks

3 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I went to St. Ambrose from 1st-8th grade!

3 points
 
by thattswhatshesaidabout 9 years ago

Jesus- what are the odds. A fellow hoodrat who also happened to suffer through catholic school as well.. would it be too much if I asked you how old you are? (ballpark) you're saying St. Ambrose and not Pope John Paul xyz so you must've gone before they restructured the churches. Pretty decent chance you know me or one of my siblings

3 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I'm 43, and lived in Dot for the first 26 years of my life, so I went to school and work all over there through the 80's and 90's if that narrows it down any.

And "suffered through" catholic school is accurate AF. They were still allowed to do you bodily harm back then! I still have tiny, half-moon scars on the underside of my upper arm where Sr. Bridget's vicious, pointy nails broke the skin, man!

3 points
 
by Davesnothearabout 9 years agoMixologist

I tried many times making a sweet tart recipe and it always falls short. As you stated sour doesnt really come through much. I find that FLV Lime in small doses (.25 or even less) imparts a tartness into juices. The problem is the flavor it brings has to be married to a citrus based flavor for it to really work well.

I got an order of ascorbic acid from NN and have my fingers crossed it will add some sourness to my ejuices.

Thanks for the flavor review btw.

3 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

TYVM for the review!

2 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

My pleasure! I was grudgingly hate-vaping this recipe when it surprised me with the turn at the 10 day mark. Still not a great recipe, by any means, but, I thought that problematic flavor was worth revisiting for improving at all.

I'd love nothing more than to be able to make it work with a grape flavor for a PixyStix thing, but, haven't cracked it yet. For now Forest Fruit plays well enough with it to scratch that grapey-powder-candy itch for me.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

This is your first flavor review, right? I hope there are more to come. Your writing is a pleasure to read.

2 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Wow, thanks! Yeah, I'd love to do more of them, but, the truth is I am very, very bad about single flavor tests. This particular flavor just struck me as one that would never get reviewed, but still had some redeeming qualities.

I do, however, have 2 tobacco flavors sitting at 3%, just waiting out a 1-month steep, so, if they don't get done before that, I'll happily review them.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

How horrible of a person does it make me that I hope they're terrible tobacco flavors, because that would be the most fun to read about? I shouldn't wish that on anyone, but I do. Please forgive me.

Thanks for doing this one in particular: Reviews of overlooked, difficult, and just plain bad flavors seem more valuable to the community to me than the reviews of common, versatile, and yummy ones.

2 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Haha! You're not terrible at all! I'm actually really super scared of tobacco flavors, so this is a big leap of faith for me.

My first and last experience with them was in 2012 or so. I tried two juices; and both had that truly horrifying perfumed, barber shop talc note that put me off tobaccos completely.

I mean, I've mixed with RY4 Double, but, I don't really count that as a 'bacco so much as a bakery, but these two definitely smell like tobaccos, so, we'll see if my reviews turn out to be pure excitement or just a series of onomatopoeia gagging noises.

1 points
 
by Paleone123about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

[[TFA Sweet and Tart]]

1 points
 
by flavor_botabout 9 years ago

| Searchterm | ELR Top Hit | ATF Top Hit |
| ---------- | ----------- | ----------- |
| TFA Sweet and Tart | Sweet and Tart TFA | (TPA) Sweet And Tart |

To use, post a flavor name like so: [[ Flavor Name by Vendor Short Name ]], [[ Flavor Name ]] or [[ Vendor Short Name Flavor Name ]].
My source may be found on github. Feel free to submit bug reports or feature requests.

0 points
 
by Paleone123about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

[[TFA SweetTangy]]

1 points
 
by flavor_botabout 9 years ago

| Searchterm | ELR Top Hit | ATF Top Hit |
| ---------- | ----------- | ----------- |
| TFA SweetTangy | Not found | Not found |

To use, post a flavor name like so: [[ Flavor Name by Vendor Short Name ]], [[ Flavor Name ]] or [[ Vendor Short Name Flavor Name ]].
My source may be found on github. Feel free to submit bug reports or feature requests.

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