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Finished my first batch - now Japanese law can suck my dick
submitted almost 9 years ago by sashei

Hey,

first of all thanks for helping me out - in threads and in the wiki.

I just finished my first test batch. I used only HiLiq stuff as I made a big order (nicotine base/vg/pg/flavours: strawberry, raspberry, blueberry, ice apple, tools).

Now, maybe you know Japanese tabacco lobby is super strong, they basically made the government to ban any nicotine product outside of tabacco, so you only get 0mg e juice. So I bought the 0mg e juice (for 30$/30ml at the vape shop), and dilluted it with 18mg juice I imported from America. What a big hassle, as the flavors sometimes doesnt fit (yuzu-lemon and cosmig fog euphoria urg), and every filling tasted different with uneven nicotine levels. It was just a super pain in the ass, and super expensive as well, even though I started vaping only 4 weeks ago. So I decided to give diy a try and made a big 150$ order on HiLiq

Anyways, made some samples and couldn't wait, so I tried the 15% flavour blueberry/3mg/30pg/70vg in my Kanger Topbox, and it is perfect!

Learnt a few things doing my first batch (a few errors have been done :s), but it turned out really well.

Once I tried the rest, I'm gonna write a review on HiLiq stuff

-thanks

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27 points
 
by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Well technically they wouldn't be able to since japanese penises are all pixelated :)

8 points
 
by kirktalmost 9 years agoBring on the Diacetyl, baby

I heard vaping is growing rapidly in Japan... how is that possible if it's all 0-nic?

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by slyn4icealmost 9 years ago

Not so much. OP is on point - big tobacco lobby is a giant fucktard here although they push their own ecig shit. I've seen a lot of people using those so there is potential. Unfortunately, as it is with lots of things in Japan, it's all about perception. Vaping makes you feel like an outlaw if you mix your own juice and import nicotine (OP you can buy up to 120ml of 100mg nic which will last you forever; just be careful as it's potent and dangerous). God forbid you take out an rx200 - I get away with it because I'm a foreigner but there is a strong perception that you are smoking something illegal.

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by mikarmalmost 9 years ago

Big tobacco is so strong in Japan because the government literally has a finger or maybe a whole hand in that pie, right? Don't they own, or at least partially own now, one of the major tobacco companies?

2 points
 
by cooperCollinsalmost 9 years ago

Yeah, they own half of JT (Japan Tobacco). JT is the maker of Mild Seven (now called Mevius), which is a huge tobacco brand. The government definitely has a vested interest in keeping traditional tobacco alive here.

But with iQOS killing it in Japan, people are being swayed more towards that instead of vaping, as the liquids here contain no nicotine at all. At least with iQOS, they can get their nic fix.

1 points
 
by slyn4icealmost 9 years ago

I hand? They've got their entire pixelated dick up in there, if you pardon my French. Until 2013 the Japanese Ministry of Finance owned 50% of Japan Tobacco, which has ~60% monopoly on the market. JT is a behemoth of a corporation with tobacco being only single source of revenue - they have real estate, food and agriculture branches to name a few. Of course their main business is killing people with cancer sticks.

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by xxruruxxalmost 9 years ago

> but there is a strong perception that you are smoking something illegal.

Japanese here, this is spot on.

Not sure how much the scene has grown since last year (if at all), but after scouring Tokyo, I could only find shitty ego pens at Donki. I also brought juice in my checked baggage and they poured half of it out upon entry and my bags were a day late. :( It's "unusual" and therefore sketchy.

They have "e-cigarettes" that are somewhat growing in popularity, but they're the gas station kind that look like a plastic cigarette, not a vape.

I found myself going right back to smoking stogies when I was there. :(

2 points
 
by slyn4icealmost 9 years ago

I was surprised to see two shops pop up in the city I live in Hokkaido. If you ever need juice and visit - lemme know, I'll hook you up with some homebrew :)

3 points
 
by J_Justicealmost 9 years ago

In Japan, big tobacco is pushing their own "vaporizer" that heats cartridges of tobacco.

1 points
 
by slyn4icealmost 9 years ago

I've tried one just for kick, almost gagged - reminds me of my old smoker days when I ran out of cigs and was smoking for day old half finished cigarettes. Not one of my best moments but taste and smell was exactly like that.

3 points
 
by d4rch0nalmost 9 years ago

Glad to hear it man. In small ways you're winning a fight against government corruption. Might sound ridiculous but when they pass laws like that they need to understand they're fighting a losing fight. Vaping will never disappear until PG/VG becomes illegal.

1 points
 
by Likeaboasalmost 9 years ago

Just commenting to say I'm right there with you, man! (As in, living in Japan) Just got my first batch of DIY gear sent over from the US. Already looking at getting more raws sent over. Have you found anywhere local to buy PG or VG?

1 points
 
by slyn4icealmost 9 years ago

Not OP, but here is the VG I use:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0086T0HLY

Ordered PG once 6 months ago and I can't remember where. Wasn't amazon though. I've moved to VG only for everything but my tobacco mixes so I have almost 1L PG left.

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by [deleted]over 8 years ago

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-5 points
 
by Tamachickenalmost 9 years agoMixologist

Congrats, but probably something for the new mixers thread. Not much to go on here.

16 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoTobacconist

I'm kinda on the fence with appreciation posts. We don't get sooo many that it's annoying and it's kinda a nice way for new mixers to introduce themselves.

5 points
 
by Tamachickenalmost 9 years agoMixologist

Yes but the new mixer's thread is the perfect place for it. It's not having a dig at the OP.

-4 points
 
by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

You're joking right? There's one almost every day.

6 points
 
by InfinityFractalalmost 9 years ago

So, if you don't want to read it, you scroll past it. Difficult concept, I realize.

-1 points
 
by Tamachickenalmost 9 years agoMixologist

Indeed.

5 points
 
by Bevlaralmost 9 years ago

Too be fair no questions were asked.

-1 points
 
by Tamachickenalmost 9 years agoMixologist

It's not the new mixer's questions thread though, it's just a thread for new mixers to post in. It just happens to be used for questions.

1 points
 
by skulciusalmost 9 years ago

But it's top post of the week so it seems your in the minority.

1 points
 
by Tamachickenalmost 9 years agoMixologist

Doesn't change the fact that this should go in a new mixer's thread.

1 points
 
by IceEichelalmost 9 years ago

I don't understand why some people get all third Reich about where posts should or shouldn't go. Isn't that what the mods are for? To me anyone that bitches about such meaningless shit must have the worst private/social life. Maybe if you are compelled to complain about such trivial shit, just think to yourself... Does this really matter so much that I must bring it to everybody's attention?

If I don't post this complaint will people still know how much of a useless pile I am?

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