I was wondering if anyone has tried Molinberry flavors and could please offer some advice. I'm trying to get into DIY and Molinberry flavors were easily accessible in my country so I just bought bunch of them that sounded good. I know the general consensus here for beginners is to find few good recipes and order flavors to make them but... yea I did an impulse buy on these ones even few 100ml ones so I would like to ask for some advice before throwing them in the trash and making another order of some well known brand flavors.
I just can't taste anything on most of the flavors, that's my main issue(mainly all fruity ones - mints, chocolates and vanilla are somewhat ok). I've read quite a bit of posts with similar issues over the past few weeks(not Molinberry - seems hardly anyone uses these) and what is often advised is to start with lower percentages as the flavor can get muted with high percentages. So I did try mixing single flavor bottles starting from 3% and up to 15% on a 50/50 base. Manufacturer's recommended dosages go from 5-8%. I've tried these mainly shake-vape and few with 2-4 weeks steep on a dripper, MTL devices, tanks - doesn't seem like it changes much - still can't taste a damn thing from the fruity flavors... I haven't tried adding any sweeteners, would that make a drastic difference?
I'm not that picky either, I just want to make something that I can vape and it doesn't taste like shit(pardon) or have no taste at all.
Thanks for reading this :).
EDIT 1: so a summary of all the advices on this topic so far:
- Molinberry flavors and ChemNovatic bases I use are not the issue, I'm doing something wrong
- Try to mix lower than 3%
- shake, shake, shake...
Flavor list: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/publicstash/69960
American Bubble Gum (Molinberry) Big Watermelon (Molinberry) Chocolate Clementine (Molinberry) Creamy Vanilla (Molinberry) Custard (Molinberry) Fresh Mint (Molinberry) Funky Pineapple (Molinberry) Glamour Chocolate (Molinberry) Ice Mint (Molinberry) Pink Lady (Molinberry) Pink Raspberry (Molinberry) Red Cherry (Molinberry)
It's a high quality brand that I've toyed around with a bit. Their blackcurrant is the best one I've found. I use them around 1% in mixes and that's plenty of flavor for me, though I use them mainly as supporting flavors. It would be hard to build a recipe with only this brand though, you'll want for example FA, CAP and TFA flavors to build on, but there's absolutely no reason to toss them out.
Did you run a search? I know I've seen some molinberry discussion & reviews before.
I thought they were stronger flavours. Try starting at 1% and working your way up to 3% single flavour. Sweeteners won't make a difference, don't fuck with them until after you learn your flavours.
GL, HF. Try googling "search site:reddit.com/r/diy_ejuice molinberry) if reddit search ends up sucking.
Thanks for the input. I have searched Molinberry on reddit many times, and have found a post with pretty much the same issue I have but there wasn't any solution to the issue. I posted a question there and even sent a message to the guy that posted that but - older post so no luck there. Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/4jfwz9/little_to_no_flavor_in_diy_juices/
I've also read many "great flavors" posts in regards to molinberry so... I'll try with even lower percentages as you suggest and see if that makes any difference.
Have you tried a different base? Normally I wouldn't assume that was the problem but it looks like the only thing that doesn't change in your experimentation. Adding more PG (flavors) to a 50/50 mix might be speeding up olfactory fatigue when it comes to lighter volatiles like fruits, while having less impact on the heavier ones. If you don't have access to another base try lowering the flavoring significantly, as /u/trancypants suggested.
Sorry, forgot to mention, I've tried the red cherry flavor with 80PG-20VG base, same thing. I only have Chemnovatic bases at the moment but since I made this order I've found many other online shops that ship to my country with reasonable shipping prices offering all popular flavorings and bases. This is just my last attempt to save the batch I have. :) Sad thing is, I first bought flavorings and started researching after that.
ChemNovatic's bases should be fine, their nic is top quality and MolinBerry is manufactured and I believe owned by ChemNovatic, based in Poland. Where do you live?
It's an odd situation. I don't have much experience with MB so I can't really offer any useful guidance there. Chemnovatic, on the other hand, makes my favorite nicotine so I feel comfortable suggesting they're not the problem.
Not sure where you picked up the MB flavors but if it was not directly from MB then there is a chance that they were either old stock, not stored properly, or even not mixed thoroughly before being rebottled. Possible but not plausible ¯\(ツ)/¯
Moving on to another flavor manufacturer seems like your best solution at this point. Good luck.
First of all (you being a new mixer and all) are you shaking your bottles a lot before use? If not, that's the problem right there.
I've purchsed more or less the entire molinberry fruits line, and some other interesting drink/sweet/etc types.
Overall, it's a pretty weak brand. Suggested percentages usually specify 6-8%, but a standalone mix would come closer to 8-10%. There are some exceptions, like Red Cherry which is strong.
I do shake for about 15-20 seconds before I vape them. I have some bottles ready that I can try to shake some more and see what happens. I remember I have funky pineapple at 8% in a 50/50 base with no nic so I'll try my luck with that one. It's also been steeping for about a week now.
I think I've bought the only bad flavor... Dark blackberry! Seriously it is so different from the original and it has a long lasting perfume taste, an artificial one. Maybe I'll try something different next time.
I used to be a tester for Molinberry so I have tried most of their stuff. (especially the newer flavors) They are among the same lines (strength-wise) as Perfumer's Apprentice, if you've ever tried them. Personally, I've never had to use anything from Molinberry above 5%. However, I was a tester, so they very well could have changed the formula afterwards. Even then, I think anything over 10% is a bit much. Something definitely seems askew.