Edit: I'm getting a lot of criticism from people that haven't mixed this up. Yes 10% Honeysuckle is new to me too but it tastes fucking awesome. Maybe it's Adirondack trying to discredit it. All it takes is a 10 ml bottle, the flavoring and a couple minutes of your time. If it's not the closest thing to placid ever posted, then I'm an asshole and you don't have to ever mix it again. I was so happy and excited to help out my fellow diy'ers until I had people talking shit (without even mixing the the damn recipe). Hopefully some of you guys enjoy it.
I promise this is the real deal clone for anyone looking to make some placid. I spent months working on this until I figured it out. I tried the original after it was nice and steeped and I tasted heavy honeysuckle. I simply followed the description on their website (honeysuckle with a hint of pear, strawberry and lime. Not enough people will see this in the clone thread so here goes until it gets taken down for lack of notes.
10% Honeysuckle tfa
2% Pear tfa
2% Strawberry tfa
1% Key lime tfa
I tried honeysuckle @ 7, 10 and 12% and 10 was the sweet spot.
I've always tried pear and strawberry at high %'s and while it was good, it wasn't spot on placid.
I tried key lime and lime Tahiti C.P. and they were both good. I tried each at .2, .4, .6 and the lime kept dieing after 3 days. Key lime @ 1% smells like a bit much the first few days but is perfect once it settles.
It took me a while but I cracked it. Next on my list is lenola cream. I have something much better than the LA cheesecake clone which tastes nothing like it. I guess I'll get into it another day.
The retired flavors they have posted in the past have outrageous %'s of TFA, like Hypno @ 12% or some shit. OP could be on to something here.
I'm not saying its wrong... but it isn't correct.
For everyone commenting on the 10% being way too high, I don't think it is. I have not mixed this recipe, or had the original placid, but there are other eliquid lines out there (some from big names on this sub) where they are definitely over flavoring on purpose to achieve a certain profile. Over flavoring can be dangerous and ruin a recipe. In some cases though over flavoring can enhance a recipe, and make it more nuanced. Ever have a liquid where the flavor seems to get better, or different flavors come out more the more you vape it. It's possible it's been over flavored to achieve that. This might be a topic for it's own post, or even over in deeper_diy.
Now, there are a lot of legit clones of placid out there that come within acceptable cloneliness (my word). But, I do think OG Placid is a bit more complicated than this recipe, simply from the Ski Patrol recipe release where Dave states that it was their simplest recipe at only 4 ingredients.
From the sampler I had of theirs a while back, almost all of their liquids have some sort of floral note. Again, haven't had the original. But, I think there are some additional light top notes they like to add to their recipes to basically put their mark on, something that isn't found in honeysuckle alone.
Very tasty and reminiscent of placid. I've never been a big fan of it for more than a few drips, but my buddy is a huge placid fan. I asked him his thoughts and he said it's about 70% there, the honeysuckle seemed very artificial and the other notes didn't quite hit the same spots as the real thing. He still asked for a 240ml though, so it must be good!
I'm not saying that this IS or ISN'T a viable Placid clone. I can't make that call until I've mixed it up and tried it, which I will. I've vaped literally LITERS of the stuff over the last couple of years, and it's the eliquid I know best of any.
I WILL say that your attitude stinks, and it's going to make people less likely to try your recipe(s) in the long run. We're all here trying to learn and improve, via trial and error, and there's not much room for learning or improvement when you get all defensive at the slightest criticism.
I'm going to mix it up and try it. I'll let you know how it turns out.
edit: "vaped," not "vapid."
Mixed this up the last night and just tried it. Not sure if its an exact clone but it's by far the closest attempt at the flavor. I only had enough for 9% Honeysuckle, but that high percentage does seem to be the key.
The only thing (to me anyway) it seems to be missing is a little sweetness and maybe slightly more citrus. Other then that this is really well done. Thanks so much for this man and don't let the haters get you down. This is some great work.
10% of a single flavor is higher than anything I would personally use in a mix but I just want to point out that Vapor Trails released their recipes and two had single flavors over 10%. Three out of the five recipes they released had flavorings totaling 18% or higher. I personally like to use lower amounts of flavoring but I don't get why so many people immediately discredit recipes due to high percentages of flavor. I mean... the shit is subjective yea?
I will have to try this out this week. I gave up on Placid and am always interested in others ideas here. I have a pretty popular version of Placid that I put out there its listed below, did you try this one?:
Ingredient|% :---|---: Honeysuckle (TPA)|4 Key Lime (TPA)|0.5 Lime Tahity (Cold Pressed) (FA)|0.5 Pear (TPA)|2.5 Strawberry (TPA)|4 Sweetener (Sucralose) (TPA)|0.5
Flavor total: 12%
Remember to rate it at e-liquid-recipes.com!
I'll give this a shot. However in my pursuit of a perfect (and close) clone this seems a bit off. Let me elaborate.
When I was really heavy into trying to figure this out, I was looking all over and trying various combinations. I actually went so far as to poke at Adirondack about how it seems their mixing % was super high or had to be. That's when they let one snippet slide. If you really want I can pull up my history and try to tack it down and link it for you. I also found other info and talking to other people they they said various things like X amount of flavors and Y amount of flavoring companies they used for it. I am trying to remember but I want to say it was something like 4 different lines over 7 flavorings. Could be totally wrong, as I've made my own variation on it that suits me, and not really trying to pursue it anymore.
Here is what I came up with, and while it's not a clone, I call it a variation:
Key Fuji Nawa (Placed Adapt)
Ingredient|% :---|---: Catus (IW)|1 Fuji Apple (FA)|1 Honeysuckle (TPA)|4 Key Lime (TPA)|2 Lime Tahity (Cold Pressed) (FA)|2 Pear (TPA)|0.5 Sour (TPA)|0.5 Strawberry (TPA)|4
Flavor total: 15%
I'm still going to try your recipe and see how it compares, as I'm always willing to try something different. Hope this was helpful or insightful <3
Interesting. I'll give this a whirl.
Edit: No banana....i like this. Definitely mixing this on my lunch break(live close to home :P)
Let me know what you think if do ;p
On another note I tried the OP's mix. It might be better after a week of steeping and mellowing out just a pinch.
The honeysuckle is for sure the most prominent flavor and the hint of lime. What I can't get over is the pear. Even at 2% it cut's right though everything else and the strawberry is so muted with the honeysuckle+pear it's hard to really get that flavor. This is why I'm going to let it sit for a week and come back to it. The whole thing needs to mellow, and a lot. After a week if it's still too much and not balanced, I'm going to add in some wizard and dragon fruit (help blend a bit).
I can see why this was why is what the OP's idea had for making a placid, a lot of the flavors are there but it's out of balance. When I've gotten placid in the past (one of the very few I actually buy) I always got a "strong" hit off of it, this gives me that as well but it's not quite the combination of flavors. I have some placid left over and did an apples to other apples vape on a dual 32/26 clap. It's in the right direction but not there. I can't say I did any better but it's not quite right. Let's let it sit for a week and come back to it, and like I said if it's still not there I'll toss in some additives to help it just to be more in line with my vape profile ;p
Overall I have to say the pear is too much and honeysuckle, while obvious is too much, and should be sliced with something else with more of a 'zing' (why I used two limes in my own thing)
So. Has anyone but OP tried it yet? Should I be ordering a shittone of honeysuckle?..
Thanks for the recipe. I gave up on cloning Placid months ago and I didn't think I'd try one again but I was curious how the high % honeysuckle would come out and mixed this up and I think that you may be onto something.
I had an unopened 120 ml of Placid max vg / 6 mg that had been sitting in a closet for 6 months and I mixed this up to match using vg based nicotine (as I have seen reference to Adirondack stating that they use exclusively). Right off the bat I can see that the DIY mix has a higher viscosity - like maybe Placid is 80 / 20 compared what I mixed at 85 / 15. This tells me that Adk is either using more pg based flavoring, pg based nic, or that they mix their "max vg" at a designated percentage.
I am also convinced that Placid has LA Banana Cream in it. /u/psyki came up with this one in his Placid adaptation from the v7 Clone.
When i order juice it's usually 0mg nic and placid doesn't have that yellow without nic. I guess it could be a small amount or colorless version of banana cream LA. I always drop a little bit of juice on the back of my hand to taste it when comparing and it has quite a bitterness to it.
Just chiming in to say that I too think it has LA Banana Cream. I never tasted Placid and Nana Cream till recently when I was able to order some internationally. Upon tasting, I detected a similar sweet/burnt/dark ingredient in both. (not able to describe exactly). Then I get LA Banana Cream and bam, the sweet/burnt taste is there. However, there is one more flavor in my collection where I get a similar taste, Northwest Strawberry which I got from ecx during my searches for a strawberry I can taste better. (INW Shisha Strawberry also has that burnt taste to a lesser extend.)
Anyway I am inclined to believe its either LA Banana Cream, Northwest Strawberry or both in there.
NW Strawberry is spot on dude - it arrived yesterday and I instantly knew that I was one giant step closer to DIY Placid. I mixed up a couple of different recipe versions (both with 10% honeysuckle) and even as a shake and vape I had something that I could almost be satisfied with in place of the real thing. Thanks so much for chiming in with this information - I'd never even heard of NW strawberry before!
Seems like a lot of honeysuckle. Way more than any other clone recipe.
That's why none of the others taste like actual placid.
Interesting take on this. Just wondering, why no Bitter Wizard? I've seen a few clones with it, and it seems to fit.
The pear and strawberry bring a lot of sweetness and since it's so low it didn't need the bitter wizard. My friend who vapes nothing but placid said it's missing a little sweetness.
10%, eh? huh.
Yea man, I waited a couple of weeks before posting this just to make sure the honeysuckle would be ok at 10% and it is. It has that awesome smell of placid on the exhale. It's too bad haters are doubting the mix without even trying it. I found the %'s that make placid what it is and hopefully my fellow diy'ers will enjoy it.
No way in hell i could ever go that high in Honeysuckle , even at low percentages it's overpowering to me.
ITT: people losing their shit wishing OP is right and this is the propriety clone. In reality: OP just made some click bait title so it seems like he has a good clone
This isn't some huge revelation. There are numerous clones with the same flavorings. Not sure what you're smoking but this isn't a 1:1 clone.
Haha you haven't even tried this and you're talking shit. You don't have to mix it, just let people who enjoy some placid enjoy it for 1$ a bottle.
To be fair though this is definitely not Placid. Adirondack has said it uses flavors from four different companies in Placid. I'm sure it's a good mix, but to imply that it IS placid is just plain false.
I'm not taking shit but you have some god complex issue going on. Don't present it like its some gift from God when it's just another clone