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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of August 29, 2016
submitted about 9 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

Another question, any recommendations on a donut flavouring?

I bought CAP Glazed Donut and it tastes and smells like play dough. After a bit of searching it appears that I am not alone and it doesn't go away with steeping.

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by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

If you want to go through the trouble, /u/BrinNutz and /u/ID10-T collaborated on a glazed donut recipe that doesn't use CAP Glazed. You can find it here. I have yet to try it, but I'd probably mix about anything these guys post.

/u/chrisdvr1 used that to derive a orange glazed donut recipe and I'm sure you can swap the orange out for whatever fruits you prefer if you're wanting to go that route.

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

Awesome. I usually buy TPA flavours and have branched out into Cappella recently. I'll order these on my next order and give it a whirl.

I'm really struggling to find desert profiles that I like. I don't mind cheesecake but I can't tolerate custard. I bought CAP cake batter but all I'm getting is a custard note so it's no good for me.

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

Bull City Vapor is actually having a sale today only. 15% off with code "LABORDAY2016" at checkout.

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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

> I'd probably mix about anything these guys post.

Aww, thank you. And I have been meaning to thank you for something else as well. If it hadn't been for your flavor review of CAP Glazed Donut, /u/BrinNutz and I probably never would have gotten started talking about donuts. This is one reason why those flavor reviews are awesome, they get people talking about the flavors.

I have a number of people to thank for that one in addition to you. It was really BrinNutz who finally cracked the donut code after working on it for two months, and in the end, all I did was take his first public version and cut the percentages down 25% across the board. Before that, it was always mostly BrinNutz's effort but I helped a little and my input was heavily influenced by /u/InsigmaTheory's French Quarter's Clone. It should also be noted that he warned me early one that CAP VC V1 wasn't going to work in the donut recipe and I repeatedly tried it anyway because I really wanted it to, with dismal results. Will be the last time I don't listen to that guy's advice. And his recipe was apparently heavily influenced by Elephant Ears and Dumbo Ears by /u/Botboy141 and /u/queuetue, respectively, so I'm very grateful for their work as well.

I'm so excited to try /u/chrisdvr1's orange glazed version and very lucky to have ordered Sweet Tangerine last week for something else so I should get to mix it very soon. And also already thinking about what other fruits might work with it. I fucking love DIY.

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by Chrisdvr1about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I finally have the flavorings to make your jelly filled donut on the way, high expectations brother. The orange glazed donut was working well the first couple of days but now the donut base is overpowering the orange not getting much of that glazed anymore, thinking of adding some orange cream to Pump It Up and help out with the glaze but I ran out of this labor last week so I'm going to have to wait for my order to show up😅

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by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

I'll apologize ahead of time if you get Play-Doh taste from the CAP Glazed. I personally don't, and a few fellow vapers who have tried it don't either. (Some others do) I will say that if you sub half the strawberry with another strawberry, it adds a nice bit of complexity. I've had great success with FA Red Touch or TFA Strawberry Ripe 50/50 with the INW Strawberry Shisha.

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by iruintabout 9 years ago

Placing my first DIY order with vapourdepot since the juice I want isn't avilable in large bottles in the uk: http://www.juicerack.com/Strawberry-Heavy-Cream-120ml-p/hcstraw120.htm

I've had this juice in my Zamplebox recently, and though I set it as a favourite I've never received it again :(

I'm ordering https://vapourdepot.com/product/diy/concentrates/brands/the-flavor-apprentice/tfa-strawberries-cream/?attribute_bottle-size=30ml and https://vapourdepot.com/product/diy/pgvg/vg-nicotine-base/?attribute_nicotine-strength=3mg&attribute_bottle-size=250ml

I have a ton of 15ml dropper bottles, and as I understand it with a pre-diluted base, I should just be able to mix right into them with no other gear, starting at 5% flavouring until I find my sweet spot, right?

Do I need to freeze unused base to stop the nicotine going funky?

Any tips appreciated; Will place my order after I get the go-ahead here :) I'm not interested in cloning, this is simply the juice that finally pushed me to DIY.

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

I'd suggest purchasing CAP Sweet Strawberry, TFA Strawberry, TFA Strawberry Ripe, and FA Red Touch for your strawberry, with TFA Bavarian Cream, FA Fresh Cream, and CAP New York Cheesecake as your cream. TFA Strawberries and Cream isn't that great as a standalone.

Alternatively, you could purchase the flavors for /u/notcharlesmanson's Strawberry Shortcake Bar, as it's probably the best strawberry cream recipe floating around right now. There is also /u/fizzmustard's Mustard Milk, which is fantastic as a 2-ingredient recipe, but one of the ingredients can be offensive to those sensitive to a specific aroma. If you want something simple that you can tweak, check out my recipe, Cliche, it's very similar to mustard milk, but with a base designed to replace flavors.

For prediluted base, you want to buy a higher concentrate than your target strength, because adding flavors will drop your nicotine concentration. Suggested to purchase a bottle of PG and VG to go with the prediluted base.

You can freeze it, but with prediluted bases it's not very necessary because dilutions oxidize much slower than 100mg/mL.

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by iruintabout 9 years ago

I appreciate your detailed response, but that sounds like a lot more money, space, and time than i'm willing to spend on one bottle of ejuice regardless of size :(

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

You're only looking to mix one bottle? The point of DIY is to save money by having a bulk amount of finished ejuice. You're not going to save money on buying supplies for one bottle.

And the Mustard Milk recipe I mentioned has just one more flavor than what your original intentions were, and is certainly much better than TFA Strawberries and Cream.

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by valleyash14about 9 years ago

Hi skiddlzninja when you say purchase the cap sweet strawberry ect do you mean instead of or combining them?sorry for the noobness this is going to be my first diy. I will look at that shortcake bar recipe though thanks.

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

I mean thise flavors will make a better strawberry cream mix than just TFA strawberries and cream.

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by tweetchi11about 9 years ago

Does anyone know what the milk flavor is in Vaping Birdy?

3 points
 
by UncleManifestorabout 9 years agoMixologist

No, but I did really like Emperor Penguin when I tried it a few years ago.

It is meant to be condensed milk (FA does Condensed Milk - pretty potent), but I would guess that there are other creams in the mix and a hell of a lot of sweetener.

It is certainly not anywhere near what is suggested on the French clone website, recipe was disgusting.

3 points
 
by anne20910about 9 years ago

What is a "hand check" post?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

Annoying posts of your mod, usually holding juice along with it. It's not really a thing here, thankfully.

2 points
 
by anne20910about 9 years ago

Thank you!

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

"look what I made," "look at my mod," "look at my big bottle" kinds of bullshit. This is one of the few rules that are up to moderator discretion.

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by fuel1095about 9 years ago

I'm looking to purchase a new supply of nicotine. Where is the best place to purchase from?

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by ckiveabout 9 years ago

See "All About Nicotine" in the sidebar to the right. The second section lists some of the vendors that are most highly recommended in these parts. Carolina Extracts - http://www.carolinaxtract.com/ - seems to be consistently #1, and they sell a handy 120ml "sample" size at a reasonable price.

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by fuel1095about 9 years ago

Thank you!

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by cidghoulabout 9 years ago

I've always vaped 6mg e juice in rba's and rta's, but now that I'm doing diy juice every one is harsh. First thought it was the nicotine I was using (cant remember brand) so I ordered some Carolina Extraction Tech nic and still the same harshness. Im using 100mg/ml. Ive tested vg by itself and fine. Vg and flavoring fine. Add nicotine super harsh. All the juice I've made has at this point steeped from 2 weeks to a month with no change. Is it more likely I got 2 bad nicotine batches or I need to lower my nicotine percentage or what?

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

Are you sure you are putting the correct amount of nicotine in your mixes?

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by cidghoulabout 9 years ago

.6 ml nicotine 8.9 ml VG .5 ml flavoring 10 ml recipe total

3 points
 
by randomlypickednameabout 9 years ago

All over this subreddit I see percentages for juices below 1% and I can barely taste a flavor until I use at least 5- 10%, some I've even taken up to 25% to try to get a better taste. Do these low percentages really work for flavorful hits, or is it just a slight taste?

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

When you are using multiple flavors you may need something at a very low percentage. For example, you aren't going to want to use INW Biscuit at 8%

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by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Triple dog dare you!

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

I'll slip it into the Mixers Club rotation ;)

3 points
 
by RedRoomGamingabout 9 years ago

Some questions I would love to ask if that is okay?

Hi guys so we have purchased a litre of vg and a litre of pg and nicotine and flavor concentrates. Do we just add x amount of each and the flavor or is there a way to mix them? we have been using 60/40 vg/pg mix

Also would it be better to just buy the pre mix juice then add the concentrates in the future?

Do you have any tips for first time mixers to buy the correct items for mixing? We are in the UK.

5 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I'd suggest reading everything in the sidebar before proceeding. You sound like you have not done any reading or research on something that is not as simple as add a little this, a little that, and you're done. You will benefit tremendously from taking a few hours to read everything in the sidebar prior to purchasing anything or mixing anything.

2 points
 
by RedRoomGamingabout 9 years ago

I was going on the pre mix pack that has the concentrates we like to mix up. I am reading up as much as I can to help me along the way to making it.

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

What are the concentrates and who makes them?

3 points
 
by Zwytchabout 9 years ago

Anyone got a good milkshake recipe and a good peanut butter and jelly recipe, not sure if this is the right place to ask because it's not really a beginner question

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

Here's a great PB&J

What kind of milkshake are you looking for?

3 points
 
by Zwytchabout 9 years ago

I'm not too fussed tbh, strawberry I guess?

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

Mustard Milk would be a good place to start: 6% TFA Strawberry, 8% TFA VBIC.

Or this lovely Mixed Berry Milkshake by /u/ajsam

3 points
 
by TogiraIkonoka0618about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Looking to put in an order with diyfs specifically for holy vanilla. Was curious if there are any other flavors from them that ppl have tried and are worth buying

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Holy Vanilla is all I get from them, but they do usually send a few smaller samples of their other flavors. The ones I got were donut, yummy bear i think and like a watermelon. Haven't bothered to try any of them.

3 points
 
by Zwytchabout 9 years ago

Anyone know if I can get cosmo/bullet bottles in the UK?

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I'm not from the UK, but I know there are quite a few threads about people buying bottles in the UK. I'd type "uk bottles" into the searchbar in this sub and see if you can find anything that way.

2 points
 
by Zwytchabout 9 years ago

Yeah i searched for a while but had no luck, spent awhile on google also, Chef Flavor sells them in 100ml but no other sizes

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Damn. Hopefully someone can offer more help then.

What about Amazon?

3 points
 
by The_Choir_Invisibleabout 9 years ago

Did a lot of research (thank you, sidebar) in order to try to source a 120ml bottle of 70/30 PG/VG at 18/24nic and at 6-ish nic. This will be my first DIY foray and it's something I should have done long ago. Finances prevent me from going larger than 120ml at this time and purchasing PG, VG and nicotine separately is not an option at the moment. Anyway, diye-liquidsupplies.com seems to have what I'm looking for, and has it the cheapest. Has anyone ordered from these guys recently?

This is really rough (from a crappy little spreadsheet I made) but the two top contenders are...
$6.68 Diye-liquidsupplies.com
$11.00 Nude Nicotine

This is of the 16 nicotine vendors I tried, culled from the sidebar and searching. I could go 100% PG (I'd have more options then) but I'd rather not.

3 points
 
by ZepsRedRocketabout 9 years ago

Question about 100% VG nicotine base and mixing.

Just started diy and ordered all vg nic base. I keep it in the freezer to keep it fresh. I've read that it is important to shake/mix it up before using to make sure the nic is blended in the vg. Problem is, it is the consistency of honey after being in the freezer. My solution has been to let it sit in cool tap water for awhile til it thins out. My question is, is this ok for the nic to be super chilled then warmed to room temp over and over? Is there a better to way to mix the base up when it's fresh from the freezer? Thanks, y'all!

4 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

When I used VG nic I would just let it sit out and come to room temp then shake the shit out of it and put it back in the freezer after use. No problems at all. 50/50 nic is much much easier, though.

3 points
 
by ZepsRedRocketabout 9 years ago

Thank you for the info! Definitely going go with 50/50 next time. Cheers!

3 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

Anyone know of good scales for mixing bulk? I've only ever mixed up to like 30mL and will be consistently mixing 1L-15L batches so I need one that can measure within a reasonable margin of error for both (pref within 1-2g). So far this is the best option I've come across but I want one with at least double the size of platter. Any suggestions welcome; switching back to volume is unbearably cumbersome.

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by TogiraIkonoka0618about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I don't have any suggestions on a different scale but if you like everything about that scale besides the platter size, you could always get a thicker piece of plexiglass and put that on the scale and use that as your mixing surface. Not exactly a solution but it is a work around.

Even if you were using 15 liters of straight vg it would only weigh 44lbs~, so you have 11lb of wiggle room.

Edit: it would weigh 42lbs~ not 44lbs

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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

> will be consistently mixing 1L-15L batches

What have you gotten yourself into, brother?

3 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

Lol, started working for a lab where we fulfill some local juice lines to different vendors among other things.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

Is this an "Awesome! Congratulations!"-type situation?

3 points
 
by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

What's the deal with TPA Smooth?

From what I've read it's good for tobacco blends to round out the flavours but are there other profiles that it is good for?

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

It's triacetin with other emulsifiers. It can be used in any profile that you feel needs to have the flavors blend better.

2 points
 
by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

So if I had a fruit recipe that remained harsh after a week of steeping would remaking it with say 1% smooth help or is it going to mess up the overall flavour?

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

It's going to mute some flavor, and you're better off trying to change the recipe in another way, but it could work.

3 points
 
by Knurlingerabout 9 years ago

Should I look for LPDE or HDPE bottles? What is more prone to leeching?

I am looking for these bottles and need some buzzwords to source them in the EU: http://imgur.com/LfRUNdz

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

LDPE Twist Cap bottles

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by Knurlingerabout 9 years ago

thanks!

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

Not a beginner, but I don't want to make a shit post asking this.

What are some lesser known/used flavors that are gems to you? I have ~100 flavorings, and mostly all of the well known/popular ones. I'm doing an order soon and would like some input on something unique. Please leave an explanation of the taste if it's named something obscure like "Liquid Amber" or "Joy".

3 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

INW Rhubarb, FLV Guanabana, FA Oakwood(smokey, woody flavor), CAP Hot Cocoa

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

I'm actually grabbing Red Burley and Black for Pipe, would you recommend using Oakwood with either of these? Also, what is Guanabana and what site has it? Can't find it on BCV.

3 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Yeah, with some AP or maybe vanilla

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

I'm not sure if these are unpopular enough for you or not, but I don't see too many recipes using INW Lemon Mix (very natural lemon, very much a gem to me), FA Lime Distilled (sweet but zesty, almost fizzy lime), FA Citrus Mix (mostly grapefruit, with some lemon, lime, and orange in the background), or FA Mangosteen (tastes like a combination of sour grape, sweet peach, and just a hint of vanilla).

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

I grabbed a bottle of FA Mangosteen. Thanks!

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

I'm excited to see what you do with it!

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by drhappycatabout 9 years ago

What are some must-have fruit flavors for my collection? I'm kind of over sweets and creams and have really been enjoying 1-4 ingredient fruity mixes lately. Also noticed how ridiculously long coils last when you don't use sweetened liquids. This supertank coil might go two months!

2 points
 
by Chriswheelaabout 9 years ago

TFA Peach juicy is amaze.

As for the coils, you're right! I never really linked the two together but you're right, hate buying coils all the time for my nautilus.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

CAP Sweet Watermelon, TFA Dragonfruit, INW Raspberry, CAP Lemon Sicily, INW Cactus. Just a few

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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

To add to /u/EdibleMalfunction's very nice list: FLV Mango, INW Shisha Strawberry, INW Pineapple, INW Peach, FA Fuji Apple, FA Watermelon, FA Strawberry, TFA Strawberry Ripe, JF Strawberry Sweet.

2 points
 
by supra95about 9 years ago

I'm looking at doing my first order tonight hopefully but am stuck on what flavours I should be buying for my first order.

When I buy my juices I vape pretty much exclusively green apple, tutti frutti, raspberry, cherry menthol and strawberry (strawberry, tutti frutti and raspberry are my favorites).

Could anyone recommend some good concentrates for my first order that I could use to replace these- ideally one flavour recipes just so I can get the hang of things. Thanks!

3 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

Capella is the only Green Apple I have tried, I like it about 5% standalone. 2-3% in a mix.

TFA Sweet Raspberry is mighty fine at 4%, or less in a mix. And also pick up INW Raspberry Concentrate, but start LOW with this one, .5% and work up by half percents. Combine the 2 like I did here for an awesome raspberry.

There are so many good strawberries that most of us have several different ones. Here are some must haves in no particular order: Jungle Flavors Strawberry Sweet (only at ecigexpress.com, but worth it). TFA Strawberry Ripe, Cap Sweet Strawberry, INW Strawberry Shisha.

Cherry is hard for me, but if I had to pick one it's FA Black Cherry. Start 1% or less. idk about tutti-frutti.

And I'll add a disclaimer by saying to always buy the smallest bottle of any new flavor, regardless of the hype.

1 points
 
by Samsoundrocksabout 9 years ago

I've been working with the Cap Green Apple lately, and I really dig it. I've found that TFA Grape Candy works really well with it to balance some sweetness. One of my newest uses those two, plus FA Caramel, Cap Whipped Cream, FA Marshamallow, and a touch of Fresh Cream. Makes a nice caramel/candy apple profile that's smooth, tart, and sweet, but not overtly creamy.

2 points
 
by chuckc342about 9 years ago

Cherry has a reputation for being tricky. I have had some luck with INW Cherries. An OK Cherry Lime at 2.2℅ and as a back note to CAP Hibiscus at 1.3℅. It has a bit of an artificial feel... I would compare the taste to Ludens cherry cough drops. It is the only cherry I have tried so far but I could see it working well with a menthol.

2 points
 
by bogey_againabout 9 years ago
  • FW Green Apple
  • FA Fuji Apple
  • INW Raspberry
  • TFA Raspberry Sweet
  • CAP Cool Mint
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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

INW Anton Apple is a really green green apple and their raspberry is wonderful. I mostly agree with /u/Coop34 about the strawberries with one exception, if you get JF Strawberry Sweet, then CAP Sweet Strawberry is not a "must have" - because the JF Strawberry Sweet tastes like CAP Sweet Strawberry wishes it tasted like. Good luck with the cherry.

2 points
 
by mistab777about 9 years ago

What percentage of flavor do experienced mixers use? I've watched a couple videos and read some things on different sites. At first it was looking like about 10%, but I've seen recipes that are 15% and up.

Just for a trial run with the stuff I ordered, I did a bottle of each flavor at 8% just to see what they taste like and not be wasteful before I try combining flavors. They are all still steeping so I haven't got to try them yet.

Also, if I find the flavor is weak, I could just add a few drops, shake it up, and steep it for a few more days, right?

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

It really depends on what you are making and which flavors you are using but I rarely go above 12%

1 points
 
by chuckc342about 9 years ago

When I do a single flavor taste for the first time I will often use the mean/median ℅ from ELR as guidance.

1 points
 
by Loco_Mojoabout 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I agree with /u/EdibleMalfunction, it is really just dependent on the flavorings you are using and what you are making. Though, I do try to keep my total flavoring as low as I possibly can while still maintaining the flavor profile I'm going for.

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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

It really depends on which flavors you're using. Some are more concentrated than others. One of my favorite recipes has only 4% flavor. Plenty of great recipes have 15 to 20% flavor. I even tried one that had 30% flavor and it tasted delicious, though it gunked the hell out of my coils. Generally if you are using TFA/CAP/FW flavors, you're most likely going to find a sweet spot of total flavor % in the 11 to 14% range, I think. Using FLV flavors will likely bring that down a little. Using mostly FA and INW flavors will bring it down a lot.

If you're looking for what percentage to try new flavors to get a taste for them, it varies. The manufacturer is a good clue as to the right amount to use, but there are major exceptions. I like to try my new flavors at three or more different %'s, to get an idea of their range. One, a low percentage to see how present it is. Two, an estimated optimal % for that flavor. And three, pushing it higher to see if any icky off-notes pop out. How to know which those numbers are? Look at the high, low, and mean/median %s used on ATF or, less optimally because there are some stupid high %'s there, on ELR. Also searching here for that flavor (especially if there's a flavor review of it on the wiki) and finally, just asking. New mixer's questions thread is supposed to be a place where you can ask anything, and I don't think "What is a good percentage to try this flavor standalone?" is a bad question to ask here.

If the flavor is weak, yes, you CAN do that, but the problem is, it will be difficult to determine how much you added, so your end product will not be easy to replicate. However, if you just don't want to waste the juice, sure, go ahead and add a few drops. Just make a note somewhere of what % was weak and that you had to add a few drops, so that you won't make the same mistake twice.

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by Samsoundrocksabout 9 years ago

I hate that 10-20% gets tossed around in such a cavalier fashion, like it's some kind of a target or something. As others have mentioned, it's totally dependent on the individual flavors and how many there are. If you grab 2 flavors and try to make a 15 or 20% it will most likely taste like ass. Fewer flavors usually ends up at the bottom end of the percentage scale. Most of the 20%-ers I've seen are the ones with 10-15 individual flavors at .5-2% each. TL;DR: Don't mix to a specific total percentage. Find the usable range for your individual flavors.

2 points
 
by slowpoke17about 9 years ago

New to this subreddit but I'm struggling to find a solid recipe for a "Banana Milk" Looking to make a smooth, very creamy vape with a very in-your-face banana taste

flavours I have so far; TPA Banana Cream TPA Banana nut bread TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream FA Marshmallow TPA Cheesecake Graham crust TPA Vanilla Swirl

(sorry if a good recipe has been posted already I just couldn't find anything without strawberry in it)

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

If you want the strong banana, get TFA banana ripe and mix it with TFA banana cream and vanilla bean ice cream.

2 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorabout 9 years agoMixologist

Simple Banana Milk:

TFA Banana Cream 4%

LA Banana Cream 1.5%

TFA Bavarian Cream 1%

TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream 3%

TFA Dairy 2%

2 points
 
by Khaaaaaotikabout 9 years ago

Hey /r/DIY_eJuice I just received my first order of supplies and had a couple questions to ask.

I'm thinking I will try out all the flavours individually in small 5ml batches to get a feel for how they are on their own before attempting anything else. The two major things I need help with are:

  • Should I add my nic level or vape them without nic to get just the flavour only

  • Is there a good dripper coil setup for testing flavours?

I have a royal hunter mini that I think I am going to use but I think I read somewhere that spaced coils will work better for flavour, is that true?

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

It's recommended to not use nicotine, because it may skew the flavor slightly. However, I use nicotine in all my tests because I plan to use nicotine in the final versions, so I need to know how everything holds up when nicotine is introduced.

You're correct about spaced coils. If you build too low and too hot, you lose some of the finer notes of fruits. If you build too high, you miss out on the heavy flavors of creams and pastries, and even some fruits. I've found the sweet-spot to be 26g kanthal spaced dual coils. It comes to around .45 ohms and I use that at 60W. The best way I've found to make a build have the same exact spacing is to make a single parallel coil, then just twist the two strands apart and you have 2 coils that are an exact copy of each other.

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by Khaaaaaotikabout 9 years ago

Thanks for the advise! I think I will do that set-up for testing although I may try the first couple flavours without nic just to compare the difference.

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by TogiraIkonoka0618about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I love the flavor I get from fused claptons. Think I found my sweet spot with 28/36.

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by Khaaaaaotikabout 9 years ago

hmm I only have 24, 26, and 32g to work with.. also I like between .5 -.7 if possible due to what I feel works best for my mod (kbox mini)
Haven't made fused claptons yet, time to check steam-engine..

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by TogiraIkonoka0618about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I tried 26/36 but I didn't like the flavor I got out of it as much. I'm running duel 28/36 and it's running .4 ohm. Running it at 55 watts usually, some juices I run at 60 or 65w.

Edit: if you wanted to go higher resistance try getting 36 and wrapping it around your 32...think the 30 might work better than the 32 though

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

I have a Raspberry Cupcake recipe that I have been tweaking but I'm not really feeling the cupcake, I'm getting strong raspberry and a hint of butterscotch.

All TFA

  • Raspberry 2%
  • Butterscotch 0.15%
  • Vanilla Cupcake 10%
  • Marshmallow 1.5%

I'm not sure if I've just gone overboard with the Vanilla Cupcake or maybe the Marshmallow is killing it. Any ideas?

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Drop the cupcake to 6%, and the raspberry to .5 or 1%. TFA raspberry is strong and soap-like when used too high; i suggest buying TFA raspberry sweet, it's much easier to use.

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

Or INW Raspberry. That shit is delish

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

If you enjoy the taste of soggy raspberry lollipop wrappers. That flavor is on my list of "ruins almost any recipe"

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

Thanks for the advice I'm going to try. 1/0.10/6/1

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

What sort of steep time would you recommend for vanilla Cupcake?

On a similar note, I buy premixed base at 90/10 am I correct in thinking that higher vg needs a longer steep than say 70/30. If so roughly how much longer.

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Yes, it requires a longer steep.

Vanilla cupcake needs like a week.

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by Cloudtrifleabout 9 years ago

Does anyone have any idea what the difference between CAP Graham cracker V1 and V2 is? I know it's supposed to be healthier but how is it on taste? Can I sub v1 for v2 at the same percentages or does anybody have an idea on just how much V2 I'd have to put in a recipe to meet V1?

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by kirktabout 9 years agoBring on the Diacetyl, baby

You need to research diketones and vaping. Some people on here don't want the added risk; they avoid diketones by going with the V2 flavors. Others (such as myself FWIW) have decided that the enhanced taste is worth the risk that these might be dangerous.

I don't think many would argue that any of the V2s taste as good as the V1s.

In most cases uses the same % of V2 if the recipe calls for V1.

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by Tamachickenabout 9 years agoMixologist

The difference is as /u/kirkt said.

Just as an aside - I avoid diketones (V1 versions) since they all have a horrid taste to my palate. the V2 versions taste good to me but they do need a horrendously long steep. Cap VC V2 needs a good 6 weeks before I can vape it, but it's delicious to me.

I'm in the minority though, my olfactory is a little funky.

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

Any tips on a lemon or lemonade flavouring? I have tfa lemon but it's not very lemony, it tastes a bit off to me @ 3%

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by TogiraIkonoka0618about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

LA Lemonade

FA lemon Sicily

CAP Lemon lime

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

Thanks.

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by TogiraIkonoka0618about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

No problem

Here's a really good pink lemonade recipe on Reddit

And the same recipe on All The Flavors

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by Tamachickenabout 9 years agoMixologist

LA Lemonade. FLV Lemonade. LB Pink Lemonade.

All great flavours alone and in a mix.

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

Thank you

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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

[Real Lemonade] (https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/10585#real_lemonade_by_id10_t): 3% INW Lemon Concentrate, 1% INW Lemon Mix.

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by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

Cheers.

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by mercifulzabout 9 years ago

anyone know where I can purchase a cap with a small tip that i can put on top of this VG bottle so i can drip it anywhere right out of the bottle?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C7MTLA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A16NOSQ55ZAIJQ

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

I've never seen the caps by themselves. I just buy the bottles. They are cheap enough that it doesn't matter to me.

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by Khaaaaaotikabout 9 years ago

So... I kinda fucked up during my first mixing session. It's not really that bad just made my VG/PG ratio really bad on one of them. I tried to make 70/30 on all of them but my scales screen is on the top right and I'm right handed, when mixing up the strawberry with nic I put more than double the PG so the ratio is now closer to 40/60.
Will the VG/PG ratio have an effect on the taste?
I know the throat hit will be more but this bottle was supposed to be a taste test between nic and no nic. Is that experiment out the window now and should I just make a new bottle?
I guess that is probably the best way to go about it and I'll still vape the other stuff anyway.. I can probably just add more VG too if it's that bad, the flavour % will lower but that's fine.
Although I sorta just answered my own question I would still like to hear thoughts on this. Thanks.

I mixed up 5 small (6ml) bottles all at 10% flavouring and all TFA.

  • Strawberry (w/ nic)

  • Strawberry

  • Kiwi

  • Mango

  • Cheesecake w/ Graham Crust

I started with the just strawberry, then the nic one, then decided I just wanted to do pure flavour because I will probably start to tamper down my nic level, at least that's the hope lol.

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by Tamachickenabout 9 years agoMixologist

This is purely my opinion but I don't honestly feel that changing from say... 40/60 to 20/80 makes an appreciable difference flavour-wise. I'd focus more on using a mix that will work best in the equipment you have. I made the mistake of putting 80vg in my Kayfun 4 once - I only did it once. Dry hit from hell.

I'm not entirely sure what your second question about the flavour testers is. Could you elaborate?

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by Khaaaaaotikabout 9 years ago

Thanks for the info, and the ratio went from 70/30 vg/pg to 40/60 vg/pg to clarifiy.

The second question was pretty much the same, it was talking about testing the same flavour with and without nic. What I was attempting to say was will the 40/60 mix with nic be that different to the 70/30 no nic or should I make a new bottle that's 70/30 with nic so the ratios are the same just the nic will be in there.

I don't know why but even me reading this again it still doesn't seem clear, lol. Let's try one more time.

40vg/60pg nic vs 70vg/30pg no nic
70vg/30pg nic vs 70vg/30pg no nic

Will those be very different or is it irrelevant to make a new nic test bottle.
 
Edit: Also the 70/30 works great for me right now so that is why I chose that ratio. Will probably experiment with higher VG also in the future.

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by Tamachickenabout 9 years agoMixologist

I get you now.

40pg vs 70pg will be a noticeable throat hit difference. The flavour may be stronger but the throat hit will be the thing you'll notice first.

The nic can make a difference to flavour, though it's more noticeable the longer you leave the tester steeping. Try making your batches at the ratio you like (70/30) and no nic for tasting purposes. To see if you like the flavour first; if it's doing it for you. If not, try higher/lower. If you put nic in each one it'll start costing you a pretty penny which is easily avoidable.

2 points
 
by throwawayyoutubersabout 9 years ago

Hey everyone. Apologies if I missed this in the sidebar.

It was my assumption that the nude starter kit at 30 bucks was a fairly good deal, but others said not.

So assuming I want to make some zero nicotine, very light all day vape (cannot stand the sweet stuff at all) what should I look at buying and how much would I need to spend, and how long do you think that'd last me?

I run through less than 30ml per month most of the time.

Thanks! :)

3 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Vg and Pg from amazon, and what flavors do you like?

1 points
 
by throwawayyoutubersabout 9 years ago

I like stuff that isn't sweet. So anything that can be a hint of something and not overpower I'm down for I think.

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by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Tfa strawberry and strawberry ripe, FW blueberry, FA fuji, CAP lemon lime are all great simple single flavors. Reply and I'll give percentages when I get home.

3 points
 
by hardknox_about 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I think it really depends on whether you're looking to get into a new hobby or just want to save money.

30ml/month is a very low cost already.

Getting into DIY mixing is going to require a decent sized investment. I'm about $110 deep in flavors, $30 scale (gotta have it!), $50 for nic, pg and vg. And I just got started. There's lots more flavors I'd love to try.

The good news is I've mixed up some great recipes, and I go through 5-10ml a day. So I've about broke even already.

As for the nude starter kit, nope. It's filled with a bunch of stuff I'd never use.

3 points
 
by throwawayyoutubersabout 9 years ago

I'm really getting into DIY so I can make my own juice that isn't too sweet and that can be vaped without feeling a little nausea from all the sweetness. Plus the savings.

Now if only I could make my own energy drinks...

2 points
 
by QueenSquidgyabout 9 years ago

Apologies if this has been asked before, but is there much difference in the flavour of various creams?

In particular, I'm talking about:

  • Bavarian Cream (CAP)
  • Vienna Cream (FA)
  • Fresh Cream (Aromea)
  • Sweet Cream (TPA)

I've made up some samples, but they are only a few days old so not ready to vape. I can't really detect much difference between them right now, but I don't think my nose/palate has recovered from decades of smoking yet!

And for another quick question: is there a cream that is an absolute must have/go to cream?

6 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorabout 9 years agoMixologist

Bavarian Cream: Buttery, rich, smooth with a tinge of vanilla

Vienna Cream: Creamy vanilla, which can be used to create the illusion of a milkshake, ice cream or milk

Fresh Cream: usually used in conjunction with Vienna Cream to create milk. straight, unsweetened cream

Sweet Cream: Adds a cheesy dairy note. Useful for yogurts and milks.

2 points
 
by QueenSquidgyabout 9 years ago

That's very helpful - thank you!

5 points
 
by Samsoundrocksabout 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

ELR has a great Flavor List with detailed tasting notes for pretty much all of the common flavors. http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavors One tip: All the flavors and notes are user submitted, so there are duplicates and misspellings. To get the right flavor, after the search results appear, click on the RECIPES header to re-sort. This assures you're looking at the flavor names that most everyone else is using in recipes and to leave tasting notes.

2 points
 
by QueenSquidgyabout 9 years ago

That's a great tip - thank you!

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

Yes. All of those have their place in different recipes and lend their properties to different flavors. Bavarian Cream may be the most used out of all the creams I have

1 points
 
by QueenSquidgyabout 9 years ago

Thanks - and as a follow-up question, which cream goes best in which type of recipe?

3 points
 
by Tamachickenabout 9 years agoMixologist

Depends on too many factors. What type of main flavour, what amount of said flavour etc.

Give your samples a week and then try them, you'll quickly know what will work best for your own palate in different recipes.

2 points
 
by valleyash14about 9 years ago

Hiya guys I'm receving my first supply of diy stuf soon. I've ordered some mother's milk from rainbowvapes

http://www.rainbowvapes.co.uk/products/mother-s-milk-solubarome

Could I just use this single flavour to get a mother's milk copy? This is my first diy attempt so thanks in advance. Also I bought sugercookie again would this be ok to add as a single flavour. And what percentages would you recommend for 70/30 vg/pg mixes thanks

4 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

You can mix anything as a single flavor. In fact, you should do that for every flavor to understand each flavor before you throw them in a recipe with other ingredients. CAP Sugar Cookie is fine by itself from 3-5%.

I have no experience with solubarome, though. Maybe try it at 5% and report back with how it goes since I haven't seen any mention of solubarome in this sub. You are now obligated to help non-US mixers by reporting back with reviews of solubarome flavors :)

2 points
 
by valleyash14about 9 years ago

Hi goldfish haha no pressure then lol all my diy stuff should be arriving by next week then I'm guessing I'm going to let them steep for a week or 10days. But I will save this to my profile and report back in. Quick question you said 3-5% I was thinking 10% was the normal starting point.

1 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I'd stick to around 5% for most flavorings. Is the sugar cookie you are asking about Capella or Solubarome?

2 points
 
by McTouchButtabout 9 years ago

I know I saw threads about this...but I couldn't really find a straight answer...

How can I tone down the burn/harshness of Juicy Peach?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

Some people react to the Linalool in it. If it's that bad I suggest using a different peach flavoring. If it's just a minor harsh feeling to you, you could use it along with another peach

2 points
 
by hardknox_about 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Just wondering if I'm alone in not liking strawberry flavors.

I've tried

  • TFA Strawberry
  • TFA Strawberry Ripe
  • CAP Sweet Strawberry

I haven't tried any of them individually to see if there's one I like more than the others, but so far every recipe I've tried with strawberry in it has tasted, I don't know, harsh, I guess.

3 points
 
by Tamachickenabout 9 years agoMixologist

Not sure about disliking them - that's more a personal taste than a problem but many people simply can't taste strawberry very much in vapes. I'd try INW Shisha Strawberry and JF Sweet Strawberry. Much more pronounced.

2 points
 
by ckiveabout 9 years ago

I realize this is a DIY forum, but out of curiosity, do you have a similar dislike for premium juices that also contain strawberry? Do you tend to dislike things like strawberry candies, strawberry pop-tarts, etc?

2 points
 
by hardknox_about 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

The only premium strawberry juice I've had recently was Centerfold's Darling which was really good.

As for food, no. I generally enjoy strawberry.

1 points
 
by uzaiabout 9 years ago

What do you use to clean your mixing equipment? Just hot water? Any soap?

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

What equipment are you looking to clean?

2 points
 
by uzaiabout 9 years ago

The tubes and bottles in which I mix the liquids

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Plastic? Glass? You're gonna need to be less vague if you want people to help you. I can't see you, your bottles nor can I read your mind

1 points
 
by VaporAlchemistabout 9 years ago

I soak everything in dish soap + hot water for 20 minutes, then rinse thoroughly with more hot water. I dry everything with paper towels, so I don't end up with water mineral residue, and let it air for an hour. Glass can be cleaned with boiling water or even an alcohol soak, but I never felt that was necessary.

1 points
 
by eddyressabout 9 years ago

Started mixing last week. For now i only have two flavour concentrates from liquid barn (strawberry and vanilla ice cream). And I'm looking to get new flavours. What concentrates should i have that will enable me to mix a wide variety of recipes?

5 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

If you go to this link, it shows the most popular flavors overall, from different companies, etc. You can typically find answers to any questions you have in the sidebar and that's why we all tell new mixers to read through the sidebar. It's packed full of knowledge.

I'd also recommend visiting the monthly recipe threads to look for recipes you think fit your flavor preference then ordering those flavors required to make that recipe. You should also check this thread out to see if any of these top recipes tickle your fancy.

Don't just go out and buy a bunch of random flavors. Find highly rated recipes, buy the required ingredients and build your flavor stash that way until you are more comfortable picking out your own flavors.

1 points
 
by eddyressabout 9 years ago

Thank you for your reply. This is exactly what I was looking for.

1 points
 
by sizup00about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

So, I'm boiling my new bottles to sanitize & then going to put them in the oven to dry quickly. Once I do that (and let them cool off), should I add the caps/droppers to the empty bottles while I store them?

4 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

Just making sure, but these are glass bottles?

2 points
 
by sizup00about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Yes sir! I put the caps on them.

1 points
 
by TrlckyBobabout 9 years ago

I need help with something. I'm about to mix up a diyordie concentrate using E-LIQUID calculator, I'm adding the concentrate in the add flavour section and typing the % but the millilitres and gram weight have the same value??, where as the neat PG weight figure is slightly higher than millilitre figure. I understand that pg and vg weigh more than 1g/ml but why isn't it working this out for the added flavours?, I was under the impression the concentrate is pg based or am I wrong in thinking this??

2 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

The way that Wayne(and most people) mix is using PG based flavors at 1g/mL.

Precision is easier to attain reproduce, so the accuracy doesn't matter all that much.(if 15% of a flavor is actually 14.44%, it doesn't matter so long as the 15% you measured is always actually 14.44%)

2 points
 
by TrlckyBobabout 9 years ago

Gotcha, thanks for the swift reply.

1 points
 
by Cloudtrifleabout 9 years ago

Even though calculators have preset attributes for weight? Like 1.040 for a manufacturer specified gravity?

1 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Yes, because not everyone uses the same calculator or even any calculator. I do all the math in my head when mixing, I don't like having to use my phone while trying to create something.

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