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Custard bases and steeping
submitted about 9 years ago by Madmikeyb83

Hey guys and girls, just wondering if someone could help me out. I DIY a few custard based juices but I'm really crap at doing them in advance to allow for adequate steeping time.

Now, while I know that there is no substitute for proper steeping I'm wondering if making a custard and VG base and having this steep and then adding it when I mix will help?

I'm thinking of mixing maybe 500mls of Cap VC, VG base. If this is left for a few weeks and then mixed with some other flavours will it give a more steeped flavour? Don't want to risk wasting all my VC if this won't work?

Thanks for the assistance

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by CosmoVerdeabout 9 years ago

Mix a few versions and label them so you know which is which.

Throw them in a drawer or something.

Mix a batch of literally anything to keep you busy for a week or two.

Or what I do is work on two or three juices at a time. Usually one won't need more than a couple days steep. Mix 10ml batches of every revision and try not to blow through the ones that need a longer steep.

I'll have 3 or 4 juices in my backpack at work and I'll rotate between them for a week. That way I've got juice, and I can make them all last a week without doing a big batch of anything in particular and blowing through supplies. Also helps you see how they all taste on a clean coil and a dirty one.

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by Madmikeyb83about 9 years ago

Thanks for the advice. I really need to get organised and get ahead with my mixing but I'm really crap at not letting stuff steep. I'll take you're advice because I've got a few shake and vape recipes that can see me through for a few weeks while others are steeping. Cheers for the info

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by CosmoVerdeabout 9 years ago

I forgot to mention: it's not a bad idea to taste anything that's in a drawer for a long steep every couple of days to see how it's changing.

Good luck!

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by Madmikeyb83about 9 years ago

Cool thanks

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by exclusivegirlabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

You can always make a larger batch of something then break that batch up into some for vaping now and some for steeping.

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by Madmikeyb83about 9 years ago

That's definitely something I should think about. Thanks

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by JohnLaCuentaabout 9 years ago

Why don't you just mix a big batch of finished juice? Just let that sit like you would with your base. I do that with custards because I like them aged 3-4 weeks but some flavors are better fresh. So I mix straight custard in advance and add the other flavors when I'm ready to vape it.

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by Madmikeyb83about 9 years ago

This is what I was trying to ask about. So I was thinking that is essentially make a batch of VC, leave it 3-4 weeks to steep and then add some other flavours to it.

I think (after everyone's responses) I'm going to try and just get organised by mixing a few bottles for steeping and a few bottles of shake and vape each time I mix and then I should build up a nice stock.

Thanks for the input.

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by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Honestly, you're better off mixing a few quick-steeping bottles a session, like some fruit mixes or something in a Vanilla Bean Ice Cream base (for a creamy fix), along with your favorite custard.

That way, you have lots of goodies to vape through while you give that custard 4-6 weeks to develop and become something great.

If you do this every mixing session, you'll build up a nice assortment of tasties to choose from, which really helps when you're impatient (like me!) to get to those slow-curing treasures.

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by Madmikeyb83about 9 years ago

Thanks, this is what I'm going to do. A couple for now and a couple for steeping every time I mix. Should get me in order in no time. Thanks

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by iLLNiSSabout 9 years ago

You'd be better off mixing your complete flavour base and letting that steep, then add the VG later.

Still not ideal, but better than just making a VC base with VG then adding other flavours later. That won't speed things up at all.

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by Madmikeyb83about 9 years ago

Thanks for the help - Unfortunately I'm now more confused though. If I do what you suggest I'm essentially making my own recipe concentrate? When I've bought complete recipe concentrates in the past they have still required steeping once mixed.

I was under the impression (seemingly incorrectly) that the steeping process was essentially the flavour concentrates mixing and developing within the Glycerol liquids that make up the majority of the juice. Is this actually incorrect?

Thanks for the input - Apologies if these are stupid questions!

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

They arent stupid questions, but they do belong in the New Mixer's Thread. Flavor base questions have been popping up a lot lately, so you may be able to find some information by searching. Essentially you are creating a flavor concentrate at a high percentage so you can just add that in at your desired level when you go to mix a bottle.

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by Madmikeyb83about 9 years ago

Thanks I'll have a search around

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by VaporAlchemistabout 9 years ago

Dude, making concentrates of your recipes does not help them steep. Flavorings need to steep in the PG/VG base.

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by Madmikeyb83about 9 years ago

That's what I was try to say I meant mixing up say 30mls of Cap VC with say 500mls of PG to essentially give me a Vanilla Custard Juice that I could then use as a base juice for adding other flavours to later like some strawberry or something

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by thedirtyprojectorabout 9 years agoMixologist

> If this is left for a few weeks and then mixed with some other flavours will it give a more steeped flavour?

No.

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