So me and a friend have been looking for a specific chocolate flavoring for sometime. The chocolate that Golden Ticket by META uses as well as Ninjaman (and a few other hype juices). The chocolate is the most authentic I've tasted compared to a real chocomilk. It tastes as if its a chocolate syrup with a bit of creamy undertones. Well during this hunt, we've noticed that RF Chocolate and ChocoMilkshake smelled exactly like it. We figured it had to be the ones they were using. But we were mistaken. This is more of a warning rather than a flavor note. ##FLAVOR The flavor on both of these ingredients are very very light. I'm saying like almost non-existent...and this is at 8-10%. These are VG based flavorings so we figured it would take some time to come out, but it never does. Both chocolates have a very faint impression of dry chocolate drenched in light creams. But the flavor is so ridiculously light that we couldn't really evaluate the flavor much at all. Unless I mixed this at too low of a percentage and I did something completely wrong, it should be criminal to even call these chocolate, because that's not what it is. Do yourself a favor and just skip these. 0/10
##Vape Experience So it vapes fine. It doesn't have anything weird going on like some flavors, and because its VG based, if you go MAX VG I'm sure you'll get nice volume. So in terms of how it vapes, it's fine. But again, there's no real flavor from it.
##Recommended Pairings and Percentages So I don't know how to really pair this stuff because it doesn't quite work. I would say pair with a chocolate recipe that's already complete and use this at 0.15% because that's probably the only way I could see this being useful. I've made a recipe with it using other creams and chocolates and it ends up just muting everything else. Both don't really do too much in recipes and are easily overpowered. Just skip it.
Thank you very much for the heads-up! Which chocolate flavors do you recommend?
Right now TFA Double Choco, CAP Double Choco, CAP Fudge Brownie, and FA Cocoa...with TFA's leading in the milk choco taste. But still testing a ton of others.
If you want dark chocolate, like 90% Cacoa or whatever that European stuff is, then FA Cocoa is what you want, but holy balls does it gunk your coils quick. I'm Hersey's man personally, and it's definitely not for me, but the flavor is dead on DARK chocolate.
HS Australian Chocolate is really good but it's very strong. Anything over .5 will take over a recipe
I agree, Wayne. While some of the flavors really come together with a month or two curing these did not. Walt suggests using a bit of heat, i believe he said up to 65C, i did not even try as i just dont like using heat on my mixes and i wanted to use the chocolate with some Strawberry or Blueberry (MF). I wouldnt even consider heating my (MF) flavorings, tho some people do.
Ill say this, Walt is very approachable with feedback whether it be positive or negative. Shoot him an email with your thoughts if you have the time.
Take care, ~KenOWhere
EDIT: I forgot to mention that many of the VG based flavorings are now sold in concentrated form, a bit of alcohol as the carrier liquid so no VG/PG/PDO.
I've found it really helps to warm RF's concentrate bottles for a few minutes (bain-marie style) and then give them a vigorous shake to disperse the flavor extract within the vg before adding to a juice mix.
They certainly do require a very vigorous shaking, i made that mistake the first time i made Bread Pudding. Since then i shake each for a couple minutes before mixing, kind of a pain, in the wrist. Ill be making the switch to the raws as my hands are just too old for all that shaking.
I had the same experience with Chocolate Milkshake. Very mild even at 12%. Tasting it on the back of the hand, seems more like a finished liquid potency. I felt I could drip this directly on my coil.
I recommend RF cookies and cream. I use this around 5-6% and it works great. It's an accurate full flavor and provides a smooth chocolate taste
It is accurate, best cookies and cream I've tried. Also barely there for me at 10%. I'm gonna order the extract and see if I can get it more potent using that.
I think some people are just more sensitive to flavors than others.
Does most commercial juice taste overpowering to you?
All of my flavors from them have been really weak. Strawberry Milkshake, Rainbow Candy, Vanilla Custard, Cinnamon Custard, Peanut Butter Cookie, and more all mixed at 10%-13% range have barely any flavor and they've been steeping for almost 2 months... But the taste is spot on, just barely noticeable.
Have you tried INW Chocolate Cream, Wayne? I have an 8ml that I got from Wizard Labs (they were having a sale on certain INW flavorings, and got the bottle for $.99). I have yet to try it, and I haven't tried Golden Ticket as of yet. I will give the INW Chocolate Cream a go tonight, though, and let you know my thoughts.