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Safety Tip: Nitrile gloves start to permeate after about 9 minutes
submitted about 9 years ago by forwhombagels

Wearing nitrile (rubber) gloves during your e-juice making is always a safe move, and a must if dealing with nicotine. But the tip that i want to give you all is that nitrile gloves start to permeate after about 9 minutes. That means that things start to seep through them. This can create a safety concern, especially when working with your nic base. I work as a hazmat specialist and i change my gloves about every 6 minutes to stay safe!

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by JohnLaCuentaabout 9 years ago

Got some sauce with that? I've always seen permeation tables with much higher times than that depending on the chemical in contact, never heard anything about permeation after no contact with anything but hands.

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by crouchingtigerabout 9 years ago

I found some data here. Table 3 on page 5 contains breakthrough times for 3 different brands of gloves for pure nicotine.

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by JohnLaCuentaabout 9 years ago

Nice find. So depending on the brand, they permeate after 6-15 min of contact with pure nicotine if I understand correctly. Doesn't seem to be a concern for our purposes...

I personally don't even use gloves, at worst I'll get a drop of 100 mg/mL on my hand that I wash instantly with a lot of water and soap. I don't mean to discourage people from using gloves, I just personally don't think they're all that important for the average DIYer.

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by crouchingtigerabout 9 years ago

Yes, OP seems to be a bit overcautious. I don't use gloves either (only safety glasses) since I work with 3.6% nicotine only.

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by skulciusabout 9 years ago

I just started and already hate the feeling of gloves and ended up taking mine off half way through my first sit down to mixing let night! Make my hands so hot and sweaty!

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by famaskillrabout 9 years ago

I am an autobody tech. After 15 minutes of wearing nitrile your supposed to change. Irrelevant of solutions contacted. When you contact solutions and solvents your degradation multiplies.

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by JohnLaCuentaabout 9 years ago

I don't doubt it's the procedure at your job, maybe the applications you use them for are rougher on them or they are just being extra cautious. But I've never seen any source to back up the claim that nitrile gloves will degrade that quickly simply by being worn. We're just mixing juice: handling plastic pipettes, glass bottles etc and maybe getting a drop of nic on our hands from time to time. Nitrile gloves will provide more than enough protection against the nicotine dilutions we use, for a long enough time.

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by famaskillrabout 9 years ago

Not saying they do. Im saying, in a professional setting, you are required to change every 15 minutes of wearing.

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by Wormdrink67about 9 years ago

Work at s hospital. There's a reason you sometimes double bag and change your gloves often.

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by Erikhatesmonkeysabout 9 years ago

RVT here and double bagging leads to torn gloves more often than anything in my experience and the doctor i studied under

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by CosmoVerdeabout 9 years ago

This applies to double bagging in other applications too

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by mangarooabout 9 years ago

Is this due to stretching? Can't just get a big size?

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by forwhombagelsabout 9 years ago

Good question. Stretching, heat, sweat and the oils from your skin help break down the Integrity of nitrile gloves. So getting a larger size wouldn't really help.

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by mangarooabout 9 years ago

Thanks.

Is there a type of glove that you are aware of that that may retain integrity better?

I'm glad you mention this as I was considering washing them and using them inside out! Not anymore of course. Should stop being lazy and get some more...though to be honest, I've been skipping gloves recently...only a 72mg mixture here, use a syringe to grab 1+ish ml and squirt it in the bottle.

I used to get dry skin on my hands, especially around my knuckles after leakage of eliquid from leaky attys. Not so much these days, I probably built a tolerance to it. Been going pretty heavy on the vaping trying out different coils since I got into building...and since I discovered fasttech prices and having too many atties to build for and test out. I get it's toxic but...I wash my hands. Living dangerously by laziness probably.

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by bae666about 9 years ago

They sell super think reusable rubber gloves online that are used for handling chemicals

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by amafobiaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

What if the liquid is quickly rinsed off with water, does the 9 minute rule still apply?

If I was dealing with strong bases or acids I'd definitely change my gloves every 9 minutes, but as I'm dealing with max 100mg/ml nicotine base, I don't bother. I don't usually even handle the nicotine base for more than 5 minutes, and if I accidentally spill something, I rinse it off with water immediately and continue working.

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by Paleone123about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

This is why I only wear the gloves while dispensing nic, once the source bottle is closed back up and wiped off (if needed), gloves come off.

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by lumberjawshabout 9 years ago

Interesting tip. I use nitrile gloves often between DIY and other hobbies, I usually switch pairs only when the current pair gets an accidental spill or I have to do something else. Looks like my glove budget just went up LOL

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by igrowheathensabout 9 years ago

Not going to change gloves every 6 min to make ejuice. Are you a glove salesman?

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by Sleepers_Demonabout 9 years ago

Good information to have. I typically change them after five to ten just out of habit from working in chem labs. Fresh gloves between everything to prevent contamination of any sort.

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by MNVapesabout 9 years ago

I snort my nic and use my tear ducts as an auto pipette so I don't think I really need to use gloves.

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by Vurveabout 9 years agoVurve with the Swurve

Does thickness matter?

I can get anywhere from 3mm to 9mm thick.

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by magicker71about 9 years ago

My wife says it does.

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by AdamOnDemandabout 9 years ago

Is Juice really that corrosive to your skin? I've started building my own coils and wicking and occasionally get juice on my hands changing coils, topping up liquid etc. I only really use high VG liquid as a rule but I've never worn any form of hand protection. Sometimes I'll wash them afterwards but most times don't bother.

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by Targrenabout 9 years ago

It depends on the nicotine content (barring sensitivity to any of the ingredients). Personally, my 3mg stuff isn't a problem. 18-24mg makes my hand itch a bit. For 100mg nic base, abso-freakin-lutely wear gloves.

My own experience. YMMV.

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by AdamOnDemandabout 9 years ago

Ah I see, that does make sense actually. I use around 3MG of nicotine which is probably why I've never had any issues. 100mg!? That must be to cut with flavour or something, right? I can imagine a hit of that would likely knock you out at least.

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by Targrenabout 9 years ago

It's used when you're making juice. (this is /r/diy_ejuice after all. ;) )

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by ClaptonBurnsabout 9 years agoIn a good mood for now - don't piss me off.

Safety tip: don't work with pure nicotine if you DIY. 100mg is the absolute strongest you should get for eJuice mixing.

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