OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.
- Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
- Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
- Want to get started but aren't sure how?
- Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.
Ask away!
Hi everyone,
I'm heading back to university to study at post-grad level so funds will be tight for the next year so I decided I'd jump on the DIY bandwagon.
I really, REALLY love Strawberry flavours and I'm looking to create a creamy strawberry milkshake. I've done some searching on here and found this as a base:
- Fresh Cream (FA) 3%
- Bavarian Cream (TFA) 2%
- Marshmallow (TFA) 2%
- Sweet Cream (TFA) 1.5%
The main question here is, what kind of strawberry flavours would work well with these? I haven't actually bought anything yet but I want to get a recipe together that I can aim for. Is that a good idea?
I was thinking of adding 1.5% Red Touch (FA) and combining with 3% Sweet Strawberry (CAP) as I've just read somewhere that these two work well together. Don't know if anyone here can recommend?
For a strawberry milkshake, TFA strawberry ripe would work well enough at like, 6%.
Hi everyone, I'm new to this and I received my first package of ingredients today.
To test my flavours, I decided to add a few drops to a glass of water and all except one flavour diluted just fine.
However, one flavour developed an oil slick on top of the water. Should I be concerned?
edit: The flavour was Amaretto from HisVape
Is it suggested that all mixers make a small batch of each of their flavors as single flavors to see what they taste like alone? I am still relatively new. Made 4 or so mixes from elr and they turned out well. May want to try starting something from scratch.
Yes. In fact there have been a large number of posts lately that are basically just nicely formatted single flavor testing notes. You should still do as much of your own testing as you can because taste is highly subjective, but there is a lot of useful information in those posts. They are compiled here https://m.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/index/flavor_reviews?utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true
Thanks. Yeah I've been looking at the flavor reviews that sound interesting to me. Not sure if I could take those as law or if I should do my own testing too. I'll whip up some small batches. Thanks.
Nothing is going to help your recipes more than tasting your flavorings individually at different percentages. Mix up 10, 20, 30 different samples (I usually do 10-15 mL, and see how they steep out. It really helps you see what exactly each flavoring is bringing to the table when you throw it in a mix. You can even dump 2 or 3 together after they've steeped and you've tasted them all and see what you come up with. This is how most of my new recipes are conceived.
Hello, I vape 😜 No sh!t huh. My brother has been making me juice for some time now and I really want to get into making my own. What sort of tips do you all have for me? Also can someone link me to the things I will need? Vg, pg, nic, calc, scale, flavors, All things I know of just don't know who I should get them from. Also maybe a good site for mixing.
:OtisHuff. TIA
You should take a few days and read through the sidebar in its entirety. There is a lot of information, and it would be dangerous to only give you parts of it. If you're serious about learning, you'll need to do the reading and research, we don't want to see anyone getting poisoned 'round here.
Just have to say it, if your brothers been mixing for you is there any way he could give you a few pointers to get started?
It's my wife's sisters husband. He said that if I want to do it I should research it so that nothing gets left behind. Nothing bad going on with us.
Can you wash/rinse out other plastic bottles that you got from vendors? Will the taste of the old juice effect the new mix you put in it? Tried the search bar but nothing came up except stuff for glass.
Plastic bottles tend to keep flavors in. I always pitch mine when they are done.
I do a rinse then only use it as a bottle for similar flavours
Hey guys, I made my first order the other day and plan on doing a secondary order made up of recommendations if possible. Any flavor recommendations would be appreciated!
My current list is. Acai berry(TPA), Apricot(Cap), Bavarian cream(FW), blackberry(Cap),Caramel(cap), Cucumber(cap),Fig(cap),Gin(FA),Greek yogurt(cap),grenadine(Cap),Honeydew melon(cap), Juicy lemon(cap), Mint(JF), Lemon sicily(FA), Lime tahiti(fa), marshmallow(FA), Oatmealcookie(TPA), and sweetener(JF).
I mainly do fruity flavors but also like the occasional bakery flavor.
I did two lemons this order to see which i'd prefer, but other than that, feel free to let me know if anything that I got was actually a terrible choice.
Any recommendations would be welcomed. Thanks!
If I were you I'd just focus on getting flavors for recipes that fit your profile and also have a good amount of feedback. While you get a few of these staple recipes down and have a few to rotate around mix up some of the flavors you've acquired as single flavor juices and test them. It's better to do it this way(imo) than to randomly order a lot of flavors you think might be good. It'll save you a bit of money and a lot of wasted juice.
thanks for the advice! It's not such a random list as it seems. Half of the flavors are for my first attempt at my own creation(A cucumber mixed limeade with a hint of gin), while the other half are going to be an attempt to create another flavor, though this one is expected to be a waste(a parfait type deal, hence the greek yogurt amongst other things). I vape enough that I shouldn't waste too much(usually about 15 ml+ a day).
There are a few random flavors that I wanted to try in there though as singles just to learn more about their flavor profiles. (which is a waste. but I have some throwing around cash at the moment, figured it'd be a good time to do some learning)
I just noticed that there were a few flavors like Catctus that seem to be used heavily in fruity flavors to balance them out and give them a wetness. It was something I hadn't even considered so I was curios to see if there were others like that that help balance out a lot of different recipes. I used to do a lot of kitchen work,old dreams of being aspiring chef blah blah blah, so I understand quite a bit about flavor composition, though I do understand that this is a different field, it does seem as though there should be some decent overlap
Again though, Thank you for the advice. I'll probably cut down on ordering anymore unless there's some essential that i'm missing somewhere.
Get INW Cactus. After that, who cares? Just kidding. Get as many limes as you can, pick up FA Fuji, and be sure to get ahold of TFA Dragonfruit. I recommend searching and researching every flavor you consider buying in order to get a sense of their applications.
Single-flavor testing is not a waste. Single-flavor testing is how you learn about your concentrates.
But hot damn! That cucumber lime-ade with gin sounds like a great idea! I need to get cracking on that.
If you haven't diy'd before, order only flavors that are used in recipes similar to what you want to make if you're not ordering only for specific, available recipes. I made the mistake of ordering a few flavors that sounded really good, but were actually terrible. Or at least look up the reviews of them on elr to see what others think of them.
I got a passion fruit and cantaloupe that both tasted like glue, and that I will never use, among a few more disgusting flavors. Don't do that mistake. Every flavor maker has a few really nasty flavors that sounds good.
I'm dabbling in a bit of both. I've got 4 recipes that take up the majority of my orders(just made my second order of flavors as I forgot a few things and wanted to try others).
A lot of the one off flavors are to test them and see how they taste in solo batches. I've been following pretty close to the reviews for most of the flavors i've ordered though.
Thanks for the advice! I'll take it under important note.
Is it necessary to use Private Preserve spray for your nic even if you keep it in the freezer? Just ordered CXTC sample bottle of 100mg pg. Would Private Preserve only be necessary for large orders of nic?
It's totally optional, but here's what you can do. Keep your large bottle of nic in the freezer and keep a smaller (I keep a 60mL amber glass) bottle in your mixing area for your use when mixing. You can spray some Argon into your bigger bottle that you will be keeping in your freezer to displace the oxygen. You can also spray some Argon into your smaller bottle after every time that you use nic to mix to displace the oxygen. This is what I do and I've had no problems.
Well I just spent a boat load of money on everything I think I need. I went a little overboard on the flavors. Everything looks so good.
I might have read it already but forgot.
But, on the simple one flavors. Would I just mix 5ml and check it out? That way if it sucks I can try to add it to something else?
I'll try out the Mustard Milk first.
I just bought some juice from a B&M today, tasted great in the store. Got home and this shit ripped up my throat. I'm ready to go down the path of my own creations. I also just bought a bunch of rebuildable RTA/RDAs. I've been vaping on and off for 5 years. It's time to go all in and get off the cigs.
It will be a rough road of trial and error. But I figure if I have the capability to dial in everything the way I want it (flavors and builds) I should be able to get better quality and more consistency. Leading to a better overall experience.
Plus I quit drinking. So I need something to do.
Mix small single flavor batches (5, 10, 15mL or whatever you want) to test your flavors. If you don't like the flavor that you mixed by itself at the recommended percentage, cap it and let it sit for a week then revisit it. If you still don't like it, you can either just toss it in the trash or research more about the flavor to see if you used the correct percentage.
Mustard Milk is a good start, but you're probably going to want to mix more than 5mL of that.
> I went a little overboard on the flavors
No. you will be buying more flavors sooner than you think.
How long should I shake a room temperature bottle (120 ml 48mg/ml)of nicotine to be absolutely sure it's thoroughly mixed?
I need personal opinions!
I'm looking to buy more flavors, but even after reading the sidebar I'm still unsure as where to buy from. I see so many flavors that I like, but they're from different distributors.. so here's my question... tfa, fa, capella? Who is best?
None of the manufacturers are "the best." They all have flavors that are the best, and have flavors that are the worst. For simple fruits, TFA is probably the way to go, for desserts/pastries CAP is probably the best, for spices/niche(edit: and flavors that shouldn't have lemon, but do anyways) flavors FA is my go to, for realistic representations/odd flavorings INW is fantastic, and FW just has some really bangin' flavors here and there.
To add to what /u/ediblemalfunction said, after you pick your recipes, Bull City Vapor and Gremlindiy for the biggest selection across the major brands. The only 2 you need (well, mostly).
Anyone recommend me flavourings to get as close to Cadbury chocolate as possible please? Or even store brought chocolate would be a good start. Milk chocolate preferably.
Currently on mobile, but google golden ticket from DIY or DIE aka /u/enyawreklaw
This is by far the best chocolate recipe I've tasted so far.
I was going to post this, but I get much more of a Hershey's Syrup than a milk chocolate taste from Golden Ticket. Still the best chocolate recipe I have had by far, but not exactly a milk chocolate. More like a semi-sweet chocolate with a heavier emphasis on the sweet.
Has anyone been able to identify the dryish cinnamon that is in Liquid State Apple Butter? I'm surprised I don't see more mention of that juice/clone attempts here, as it is utterly delightful. So much so, in fact, that I'm convinced it HAS to contain some shit that is bad for us. Nothing that tasty ever comes without consequences, apparently. Thanks!
I've not personally tried that but have you tried FA Cinammon Ceylon? It's a much dryer and more realistic cinnamon.
My first order is out for delivery! Here's my question: will my juice taste the same if I use different concentrations of nicotine? Or does using 48mg/ml nic result in a different taste than 100mg/ml nic even if I keep the pg/vg ratio exactly the same? Sorry if it's a dumb question, I'm just curious. I ordered 48mg nic, and I'm wondering if next time I'll want to try 100mg just to make the bottle last longer and simplify the calculations.
Well the end juice should have the same concentration regardless of what strength your base is. If you make 3 mg/ml it's going to be 3 mg/ml. But obviously it will last longer if you order 100 mg base. Just be more careful, as the higher the concentration, the less room for error you have when adding nicotine.
Thanks for answering! I spent about a month reading this sub before I made my order, and I just mixed my first 2 bottles! I did mustard milk and skiddlzninja's serially easy lemon bar. Suck it, Indiana, I made my own shit, and it tastes good! Really appreciate the amazing advice and sharing in the community, it means a lot to new hobbyists like me.
New to mixing. I have a gallon of pre-mixed base liquid containing 60%VG and 40%PG with a density of 3mg nic. I have a number of flavors concentrates as well. Is there a calculator that takes into account a pre-made base? Any tips on how to mix flavors with pre-made bases would be great..Thanks.
I'm new myself.
I use this site.
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/create
You can enter you base solution when you make your recipe. Under the nicotine tab.
Click "max vg"
Set you "desired nic" to 1 or 2
When you recipe calls for "vg dilutant" just add that number to your "nicotine juice"
There may be a easier way. Someone with more experience can chime in.
I don't know of a calculator that will take into account a pre-made base, perhaps someone else will chime in with that info. However, I do know that since your base is 3mg nic (60VG/40PG) when you add any flavorings to that, you are no longer going to have 3mg/mL nicotine or 40% PG. Flavorings are PG based so when they are added to a pre-made base like yours, you are essentially diluting it and will end up with less than 3mg/mL. This is the reason the majority of us do no buy pre-made bases. Rather, we buy everything separate.
I'm sure buying separate is the better way to go. But with my A.D.D and inability to pay attention to multiple tasks at once and the fact that pure nicotine concentrate is not something good to have around when you're a clumsy ox like myself, and have pets in the area. I'd rather just go the minimalist route and negate any possible accidents if I can.
Well first of all 100mg/mL is not pure nicotine.
Since you are aiming for 3mg/ml it might be a lot easier for you to get nicotine in a concentration of around 24-48mg/mL in PG then all you'd have to buy is VG and flavorings to hit your target of exactly 3mg/mL. I can totally see how you'd think a pre-made base in 3mg/mL is the way to go (since that is the nic level you vape at), but in my opinion it's much easier to have more control and precision going the separate route. With your base and you adding flavors to it, you will be under 3mg/mL unless you vape your pre-made base as is without flavoring.
Hopefully your pre-made base works out for you, though.
This is a very basic question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to, but here goes. I have yet to mix my first batch, have found some recipes I want to try. Here's my question. Are TPA the same as TFA? The recipes all say TPA for most the flavors, I have the flavors, but the are all The Flavor Apprentice. When I click the TPA flavors on mobile, it says The Flavor/Perfumers Apprentice, so I'm thinking they are actually TFA, which I have. Am I correct here?
Thanks so much, get ready to help me out soon, as I am starting tomorrow. I will read the sidebar thoroughly as well, just haven't had a chance yet.
Thanks so much!
Edit: Looked at sidebar and confirmed, sorry everyone
Oh man, DIY is AMAZING, my first batch is easily gonna be ADV material for me. This is just crazy! I'm over the moon right now, you guys were right, holy shit! I just finished it, had to substitute and slightly adjust a recipe, but boy is it good, even as a shake and Vape!
Hey, thanks in advance, even if you don't have a clue how to help! you guys are awesome!
Not the best of mixer, but not a complete novice.
I have £12 spare and I want two simple two(max three) flavour recipes to take on holiday with me next weekend, I'm looking at taking about 90-120ml with me.
I'm absolutely in love with a blackcurrent menthol juice which I bought a while back from a b&m but it doesn't have much of a minty taste to it, and I want to try and recreate it partially I was just if around 6-9% blackcurrent by tpa and 0.5% of Koolada by tpa making a 30ml bottle at 3mg max vg I can.
I was also thinking about a cherry menthol using cherry extract by tpa the same as the blackcurrent just replacing the blackcurrent with cherry of course.
Thirdly I was thinking of a strawberry cream or bubblegum or maybe both
Strawberry Vanilla Cream strawberry by tpa at 10% with vanilla bean ice cream by capella at 2-3%
Strawberry bubblegum strawberry by tpa at 10% with bubblegum by tpa at 5-7%
Can anybody give me any help for the first two or any suggestions for different flavours. I love fruity juices, not that big on creams, but would be open to try them but I will be shopping at vapable.com and I have only £12-3. I have nic, pg&vg but maybe could do with a little more vg very soon.
Thanks, CA
You could try a search on ELR for these juices. Make sure you sort by rating to push all the shitty recipes to the bottom. Definitely check out Mustard Milk
I don't like advertising this on reddit, but your best bet would be /u/enyawreklaw's line of concentrates from chefsvapour.co.uk they're called diyordie concentrates, and they're full recipes in one concentrate. It's quicker and easier than finding recipes if you're in a pinch.
I've been looking at them, and I've watched most of his videos, unfortunately they don't really appeal to me right now, I'm going on a hot holiday so I thought something with menthol and I just really enjoy strawberry, but i will get to trying them at some point in the future, I don't think I can get them in the U.K?
Edit: seems chefsvapours is based in Cardiff, wales, I can get them in the U.K. :)
I feel you, in that case, get TFA strawberry ripe and TFA menthol, mix them 8/1% and youll be fine. Get some CAP golden pineapple and FA banana if you want to include some variety. 1% of either would spice things up.
Edit: FW extreme ice is a better menthol if they have it.
ok so I've read the sidebar a bunch of times, ordered all my stuff, learned mixing by weight since it's easier ect. now I've made a couple of batches to make sure it wasn't just errors but i can't taste any flavors. like literally almost none. i get subtle hints here and there but that's it. I've let my juices steep a week or two minimum aswell. and it's not vapors tongue because i took a couple days off just to see aswell. i did the sniffing coffee grinds trick and everything. but i can taste regular shop bought juices fine. really upset about this so i hope someone can help. maybe even give me a new recipe. I've made unicorn milk and watermelon crack so far. the UM has NO flavor. the WC i get hints of a cool candy, but barely.
what ive got
TFA strawberry ripe TFA cheesecake graham crust TFA Bavarian cream TFA sweet cream TFA vanilla swirl LA watermelon FW jungle juice FW hard candy FW watermelon FW marshmallow CAP cool mint TFA ethyl maltol (pg)
edit: added the flavors i own so far. looking to buy more though so give me any suggestions. thanks guys.
It could be anything really. It's kind of odd that you don't taste anything. Maybe it's your set up. Or the VG/PG base that you are using? It could even be the nicotine. Best thing you can do is try the flavoring a individually. Mix TFA strawberry ripe at 6% without nicotine.
Hey, I'm considering getting into DIY juice and was wondering what companies you recommend for a good starter kit? Or am I better off buying the stuff I need separately?
Use the search bar. Look for "starter kit" you'll find ample answers.
Thanks
Instead of a kit, it's better to purchase everything seperately. I will copy and paste this. When you have picked out some flavors, the 2 vendors I recommend are Gremlindiy and Bull City Vapor. The only 2 you need for everything except nicotine. Check out the "Verified Vendors" link to pick that out.
Welcome!
Hello everyone, I'm new in vaping and have been mixing juice for about three months now. I realized early that steeping is no joke for the creamy and tobacco-y types I like, so I bought a stock of flavors and mixed different recipes which I'd let steep.
Meanwhile I bought my first rta, a serpent mini. The flavor on this thing goes off the roof sometimes. So now I got juice that has steeped for a month or more, and I find most of this overpowering. Should I cut the flavors down from now on? Like, most recipes are 15-20%, maybe I should mix at 10% max? Are there any tools that help scale down the recipes? It seems weird my experience with famous recipes seems to be so different than it is for other users, but I'm thinking atomizers have come a long way maybe.
For reference I'm talking about well-known stuff from e-liquid-recipes like the unicorn milk clone, strawnana custard (this is so intense it's like vaping chemicals with no particular taste whatsoever), pistachio ry4. No problem with simple ry4d recipes which usually are subtle though.
I have a lot of questions but I don't know what most of them are yet so I'll hold off on asking how half a drop of almond makes my ball hairs be like whoa.
Anyway thanks for everything. I managed to put together Cinapple Fritter http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/248629/Cinapple+Fritter+%255BDIYorDIE%253A+returnity%255D
and Sparkling Apple Peach Wine http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/215112/Sparkling+Apple+Peach+Wine
I assume the formatting of that is going to be very bad but between those two and strawberry mustard I've had a delightfully fruity month.
Gracias brohams
But did you have a question? This is the new mixer's questions thread after all
About to start placing my first diy orders. Just a few questions.
• Is it ok to order some VG from amazon? If so what brand do you recommend?
• I want to order CXTC nic 500ml of 48mg. I'm considered if this might be to much quantity for my first order if I keep it in a drop freezer how long would the shelf life be? Or should I just get the 120ml sample to start off with? I'm only mixing for my self and I vape about 20 - 30ml of 3mg a day.
Thanks.
Essential Depot from amazon. There's another popular brand in a white bottle but I get a bad plastic smell from it.
Why not get a 120ml of 100mg? Unless you have kids around all the time there's really very minimal danger, especially if you're going by weight. It should last a long time in the freezer but 500ml is a lot. I would've regretted it if it was my first nic order.
Essential depot on amazon wants to charge me 115 bucks for shipping for 2 gallons I'm Alaskan tho so I'm use to this kinda stuff. I went with Duda energy VG USP also from amazon it was 50 bucks for 2 gallons free shipping I hope it's not horrible. It had some reviews from people using it for ejuice.
I took your advice and got the 120ml 100mg thanks for the help I appreciate it.
I tend to buy my nicotine in smaller amounts 100-200ml. That way i don't have to store it too long. A little bit more expensive than bulk. I vape and sell about 0.5-1litre of juice a month and stick it on my monthly order.
500ml will make you about 8 litres of ejuice at 3mg if my quick hazy math checks out.
Do the 30ml TFA flavorings from Bull City have the dripper top? Or are they glass or something else? I've ordered 10ml bottles of flavorings before and liked those bottles. I don't want to order something I'm going to have to syringe from.
My first flavor buy was from TFA and I got some tiny 4ml bottles. None of them came in dripper bottles and I eventually had to transfer them to dripper bottles to make them easier to use.
Now, being slightly wiser, I'm going to order from one of the diy vendors like BullCity/Gremlin/Ecigexpress. How can I tell whether or not bottles from those places will be drippers? I don't want to have to go through that process again if I can avoid it.
All of bull city's bottles are dropper bottles. Gremlin rebottles without dropper caps but I believe there is an option for the original bottle (Capella always comes in dropper bottles)
My first order was from Wizard Labs for some reason I can't even remember. Not only do they not have drippers but the vials aren't even labeled with the manufacturer. =( Feel like such an asshole throwing out one of the 100 pipettes I had to buy every time I use a single flavor.
My Bull City order was such a fucking delight after that.
Should I buy the nudist 30 dollar starter kit tonight? And what are the most versatile/best flavors from them? (Seems like the easiest and slightly cheapest way to get going)
Also I don't plan on vaping nicotine, do you guys think they'd swap out the nicotine for more VG if I put that in the notes?
Thanks!