EDIT: Just for clarification, the flavor I'm reviewing is NOT the "Tobacco Absolute" version. The TA version is a different flavor all together. From what I understand, the TA is nice.
Flavor Notes
Specs:
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22 day steep
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percentage used: 1, 3, 5%
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PG/VG ratio: 40/60
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vaped on Derringer RDA, 1.29 ohm coil, 10-18 watts
Flavor Properties:
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slightly sweet floral
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no tobacco flavor to speak of, not even a hint
Relatable Flavors:
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rose water
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honey
Mouth Feel:
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medium density
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smooth floral sweetness
Off Flavors:
- I detect nothing but rose water and honey, neither is technically an off flavor but then again, neither of those are tobacco-esque soooo...
Position In A Recipe:
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condiment
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could be used in low percentages to bring sweetness in place of honey
Pairings:
- maybe could be used to soften a very strong tobacco
Conclusion:
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not impressed
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this is a condiment flavor if anything
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has no nuance, no layers, yet the leading flavors (rose water and honey) fall short of greatness
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no noticeable change in flavor from 1,3,5%.. only that the honey and rose water become more prevalent
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at lower wattage, rose water takes front stage, higher wattage brings the honey forward
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reminds me of one of the first wanna-be tobacco flavors I ever tasted.. it came with my Bloog cigalike circa 2012
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this is subjective but I'm thoroughly disappointed
Suggested Percentage:
- 1-2%
Suggested Recipe:
- I honestly can't see myself reaching for this flavor any time soon
Note to reader
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If you've had success with this flavor please let me know! Also, if you taste anything other than what I described, I'd love to hear your thoughts!!
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I doubt it's the review you would've wanted but I figured I'd put this out here anyway. Wasn't sure if I should bother posting a fairly negative review but what's the point of reviewing if we don't point out the bad ones too. Of course, you may find a use for this, it ain't all bad, but at least you'll know what you're getting into.
While it makes sense that it's no fun to post, I honestly wish there were more negative reviews out there. Some flavors are really hard to work with, some are just trash, even from the best of manufacturers. I can't order every single flavor out there and even if taste is subjective, I'd trust any of these reviews far more than vendor sales pitches.
Yeah, negative posts are no fun, mostly because you have to try to pick apart a flavor you don't like lol. Much easier to talk about a flavor you enjoy mixing with and have a decent amount of experience with.
I've got one or two, and a few mediocre ones, but I need to get a few more out there for the ones I'm not particularly fond of
Ya, I found it hard not to inject this review with purely subjective remarks like "I hate this and will never use it" lol. Of course, I gave my honest opinion but also tried to leave room to showcase the actual flavor. Cuz you never know, maybe someone else will find a use for it.
For sure, when I'm disappointed in a flavor I'll just put it aside, might give it another shot later, but mostly just ends up in a drawer somewhere. The thought of doing any extensive testing on some of them makes me cringe!
Don't feel the need to review a flavor that you know sucks though, but if you dislike something you try, don't be afraid to post about it. It's very useful information for someone considering an order.
Reviews come together fairly naturally for me, whether good or bad. When I taste a new flavor, I copy paste the format above with the categories "flavor properties", "relatable flavors", "mouth feel", etc and as I taste, I begin jotting down the notes in each section. By the time I've decided if I like the flavor or not, the review is pretty much done and I just need to write the conclusion. So luckily it's not a painstaking effort to review a less favorable flavor because it's done on my first tasting. If I tasted before note taking, that would be a different story and I'd almost for sure not go back to the flavors I didn't like off the bat.
But as you say, a review like this can be really useful to someone else considering what to buy. So I def think it's good to put up. I post my reviews here and on ELR and if I remember I throw them up on the vendor site too.
This is a negative review. The flavor is supposed to be virginia tobacco and he's getting floral notes - we didnt smoke tobacco flowers we smoked leaf.
In a mild mannerd and even handed way this is a negative review
Thanks for the review! Is this the tobacco absolute? If so, I'm going to go throw it in the trash haha
I would recommend you try it for yourself before throwing away!! Maybe you won't agree with me! Also, my bottle just says Virginia Tobacco so I don't know if it's the same as you have.
Haha I was just kidding. Even crap flavors I keep, "just in case." Kinda a hoarder that way. I fucking hate rose water though, so I was feeling triggered. I'm glad I have the absolute and not the regular version, so thanks for taking one for the team!
Yup, I'm becoming a flavor hoarder. Even though I can't ever see myself using this flavor, I also can't bring myself to throw it out.. cuz you know, maybe one day.. I might need it for some obscure purpose.. Like that time I thought.. "oh hey, I know what this needs... honey rose water!" < and that happened, um, never, but you never know.
> INW Virginia Tobacco
Ahh didn't realize they had an absolute and (non) absolute haha. Thanks!
This is the exact version that I have. Let me know if it's the same or different than yours.. but when I check Inawera's website it seems they have a few different Virginias.
http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-e-liquid/browse-flavorings/tobacco-flavors/virginia-tobacco-by-inawera.html
EDIT: I spoke with ecigexpress.. my version IS NOT Tobacco Absolute.
http://www.bullcityvapor.com/tobacco-absolute-virginia-wg-inw/
I enjoy this one but havent mixed it much. Im not sure if we are referring to the same flavor. The absolute I linked is great imo, and i dont taste any of those flavors. Its more of a plain and bold tobacco to me
The one you have is different than mine. I contacted ECX to confirm and it turns out they make a TA (yours) and a non TA (mine).
I saw that, but was being lazy and didn't want to reword. The amount of tobacco flavors and their naming gives me a headache sometimes.
Have you tried INW custard or creme brulee? The creme brulee is delicious.
Totally concur - anythig artificial with the word "virginia" or "burley" is anything but
I'd love to hear your opinion on "Red Burley" by Flavorah. I've been using it in my ADV and am quite happy with it. Given your expertise with NETs, would be interesting to know whether Red Burley even comes close.
Waiting on a shipment from flavorah so havent tried it yet
Awesome. Hope they threw in Kentucky too, I haven't tried it yet but all signs point to yes.
I just got Black Note samples in the mail today. This will officially be my first taste of NETs! I am ceremoniously preparing to test them out, as I know this will be the beginning of a long, winding journey down tobacco maceration road.