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What is that unexpected flavor that pushes your "basic" recipe to something amazing?
submitted about 9 years ago by ECDEU

Ever had a recipe that just seemed a bit bland but then you just threw in something slightly unexpected and it took that juice to the next level? What is that flavor in that what recipe?

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18 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

Cactus INW. It's like a miracle for wetness/freshness

3 points
 
by SirKuhabout 9 years ago

Stuff is strong too and tasty.

5 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

So good once it hits the lips

1 points
 
by belikegrouchabout 9 years ago

So so good...

2 points
 
by EarnestAccordabout 9 years ago

Indeed potent stuff, it easily dominates a mix unless in the .125% or lower.

1 points
 
by PoopStainMcBaineabout 9 years ago

I'm of the sensitive to Cactus. I agree with you, however, not everyone is like us.

1 points
 
by EarnestAccordabout 9 years ago

Really, Wow. A guess an assumption on my part, as it seems so distinctive and stands out above everything.

0 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

False

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

Getting my first bottle of this this week and I'm stoked for what it's going to do.

12 points
 
by chipfoxabout 9 years agoPâtissier

Like a lot of people, I started off mixing making strawberry creams. They're all okay, but I find I got tired of them easily.

That was until I added TFA Orange Cream. I don't even know if it's the extra flavour, it just adds something amazing on the exhale that really adds to any strawberry cream mix.

I'd highly recommend anybody try it, just keep the orange cream % low. 1% max and you'll see for yourself

5 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

It does nice things to mango and peach flavors, too

3 points
 
by Philosaphuckerabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Shit...I can see that being the case! Back to the lab I go!

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

This is fascinating. Is your strawberry cream heavier on the cream or the strawberry?

3 points
 
by chipfoxabout 9 years agoPâtissier

Hard to say, I find strawberry ripe quite weak. Even a simple mix of sweet cream/Bavarian/strawberry ripe at 2/3/8 I find the sweet cream most pronounced.

I'm not a connoisseur of flavours or anything, I just know that orange cream gives the strawberry creams a nice punch. .5-1% so you wouldn't be able to tell it was orange if you weren't told or didn't put it there yourself, but at the same time you'd definitely notice a big difference

1 points
 
by surfishermanabout 9 years ago

Wow, great tip thanks.

1 points
 
by chipfoxabout 9 years agoPâtissier

Would love to know what you think. Any stronger and I think the orange would be too strong, but maybe it's just me

10 points
 
by belikegrouchabout 9 years ago

It's well known, but a small % of TFA dragonfruit does wonders for some fruit mixes.

3 points
 
by catdumplingabout 9 years ago

I think my mouth is broken, because no matter how little TFA Dragonfruit I've used, it just makes everything taste like Juicy Fruit gum.

2 points
 
by psykiabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Try quince, it has additive effects similar to dragonfruit.

1 points
 
by belikegrouchabout 9 years ago

Haha I don't get a juicy fruit flavor, but I always think it's interesting how subjective taste is and how different people taste things differently.

2 points
 
by catdumplingabout 9 years ago

It's true, we all seem to taste things a little differently. TFA Dragonfruit is always Juicy Fruit-y to me and I think it tastes gross in all of my mixes, but lots of people like it. No big deal, but this is exactly why small sample sizes are awesome and worth spending a buck or two on before buying a big bottle. I've got a ton of small samples that ended up being gross, but I only have one large bottle that I don't really like (and it's not because it's bad, it's just so bland I switched to a different flavor to replace it.)

1 points
 
by Lambroghiniabout 9 years ago

I used to use TFA Dragonfruit all the time and loved it but then one day all my mixes with it started tasting like gum too and it was all I could taste. Now it's been sitting in my fridge unused for a long time. The same thing happened to me with INW Cactus and now unless I use a really small diluted amount it's all I can taste and just seems to blend all my flavors together. Been a while since I've used either, so IDK if it was just from vaper's tongue or getting too used to it but it lead me to find other ways to improve my recipes.

8 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

LA Cream Cheese Icing is my secret weapon when I need to kick creams up a notch

5 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

I love you, LA CCI!

2 points
 
by Ace81892about 9 years ago

I just added some of this flavor to my cart after seeing your Key Lime Bar in the monthly recipe thread. High hopes for it!

3 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

If you try the key lime bar and it isn't your cuppa tea, don't blame LA CCI. Try some other recipes that use it such as /u/CheebaSteeba's Sweet Strawberry Cream or /u/RuntDastardly's Lemon Pound Cake.

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

I'm trying to find something to add to my cream bases, I might have to check it out. How much do you use?

3 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

Definitely check it out then. If say 1% is a good starting point for it. You don't want to go too high

7 points
 
by vapaioloabout 9 years ago

I say it a lot, but TFA Kentucky Bourbon (@ about .25-.5%) in any banana/bakery recipe gives it this....warm, baked flavor. Not at all alcoholic tasting. This is also true of "dark" fruits, berries, and stone fruit recipes.

2 points
 
by Scottopusabout 9 years ago

How would you compare TFA Bourbon?

3 points
 
by prime1ndustriesabout 9 years ago

As far as banana/bakery recipes go, for me, a bit of TFA Toasted Marshmellow did the same thing. It adds that baked aspect to the banana that was missing from a couple of my recipes. I'll have to try TFA Kentucky Bourbon though. That's one I've never picked up.

2 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

I have head that Toasted Marshmallow is definitely a secret weapon in cream bases, but have yet to check it out.

2 points
 
by KHcactusabout 9 years ago

I love Kentucky Bourbon with Fuji and RY4 Double. Still perfecting it, but its my favorite mix. Now...I have LA Banana Cream, and I've tried a million times to make Nana Cream, but it always comes out 'dry' tasting. Any suggestions to make that particular banana concentrate into something I might enjoy?

2 points
 
by Bhd147about 9 years ago

Can you post your current Fuji/RY4/bourbon recipe? Sounds interesting

6 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

.5% of aurora took my ok 7up recipe to wow.

4 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

Aurora is amazing

3 points
 
by stateekabout 9 years ago

What's your 7up recipe?

4 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

its in the monthly recipe thread but I'll post it here too.

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/759374/7up

Aurora fa - .5%
Cactus INW - .5%
Champagne TFA - 1%
Citrus Punch TFA - 5%
Koolada TFA - .5%
Lemon Lime CAP - 5.5%
Lemon Sicily FA - 1.5%
Sour TFA - .4%
Sweetener TFA - 1%

I also decided to add some em in my next batch to try and tone down the citrus a little more and make it sweeter.

1 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

if you like it make sure and give me an upvote in the monthly recipe thread.

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

What is aurora?

6 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

A wisp of lime. Makes for a great finisher to drink recipes

5 points
 
by WhiteRussian13about 9 years ago

Sometimes I add just a bit of tpa keylime just to make some flavors pop

4 points
 
by jordan917about 9 years ago

I use that key lime at .2%-.5% and it's so good, especially with Cap Lemon Meringue Pie V1.

5 points
 
by atomicxblueabout 9 years ago

INW Dragonfruit. Just a single drop in my strawberry cream makes all the flavors just POP!

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

I'll have to try that next time. I'm always worried about dragonfruit since it is such a heavy flavor, but I'll try a drop in my next strawberry milk.

2 points
 
by atomicxblueabout 9 years ago

You only need a drop in like a 30ml bottle to get the effect. Too much more and it would overtake the other flavors in your mix.

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

I made a bottle yesterday with a drop and I'm letting it steep now. Thanks for the tip!

1 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

does dragonfruit add any sweetness?

2 points
 
by atomicxblueabout 9 years ago

It adds a tiny bit of sweetness, but it's more of a 'dry' flavor. It won't make your juice super over the top sweet, if that's what you're worried about.

2 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

I was just hoping it adds a bit of sweetness, thanks.

4 points
 
by vapaioloabout 9 years ago

Oh, I also love FA anise in low %'s in most fruit recipes.

1 points
 
by hapticsquidabout 9 years ago

This. It's also great at low % with strong/dark tobaccos.

1 points
 
by vapaioloabout 9 years ago

Oh absolutely. Licorice flavors add a very subtle, complex note to tobacco mixes.

4 points
 
by Ace81892about 9 years ago

Almond (FA) took my peaches and cream recipe to a whole new level.

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

I use FA Hazelnut in a couple of my ice cream recipes and it puts it over the top. That flavor is so good, my hazelnut ice cream recipe is to die for, but it pretty much just uses that flavor.

2 points
 
by 6retro6about 9 years ago

Is your recipe posted somewhere?

4 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

No, but here you go m8.

  • FW Hazelnut 7%
  • CAP Vanilla Bean Ice Cream 4%
  • CAP Vanilla Custard 3%
  • FA Meringue 2%
1 points
 
by Apossiumabout 9 years ago

I had similar experiences with my pear recipe (still WIP). The base was 4% FA Pear, 1% INW Pear and 0,75% EM, but when I added 1% FA Almond it turned into much more like pear fruit. The recipe had instantly more "crunch" and body.

3 points
 
by MadRetardedabout 9 years ago

It's not really unexpected, but I use citric acid with almost all appropriate fruit flavours. I don't see it a lot in published recipes, but it makes fruits much more real.

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

FA Torrone

3 points
 
by dirtydanabout 9 years ago

I was using FA Torrone in a Almond Blueberry Cookie recipe and I didn't even know what it was. Luckily I know someone who knows someone with family in Spain and they sent me 3 bricks. Shit is cash

3 points
 
by MisterEggsabout 9 years ago

Adding a tiny bit of cinnamon to my RY4 blend adds a nice, warm finishing touch.

3 points
 
by surfishermanabout 9 years ago

Just tried Inawera Biscuit and it's amazing as others said .

3 points
 
by SkepticSlothabout 9 years ago

Absinthe and horehound. I was mixing 5 Pawns clones, and both flavors are my favorites right now.

I just mixed black currant, and it's giving me some ideas...

1 points
 
by RuntDastardlyabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

+1 for both, but I'm completely in love with horehound in menthol mixes. It just makes them so much more complex and interesting.

1 points
 
by HocusKrokusabout 9 years agoFrugivore

TFA Horehound is my second favorite standalone, aside from INW Euc w/Mint

3 points
 
by EarnestAccordabout 9 years ago

NN Patchouli Vanilla. At low percentages, mine dialed in at .38%, gives my dessert and bakery recipes a sickly sweet, lightly floral, Vanilla that accentuates all notes.

2 points
 
by Rilamizabout 9 years ago

Right now working on a fruit loops flavor just added inawera black currant and FE lemon that just about completed it. Those 2 mixed together almost taste like most brands fruit circles which isn't saying much. The smell of black currant could throw you off tho not sure if im the only one but it just has this off setting smell but taste amazing.

2 points
 
by LordDonglerabout 9 years ago

INW Cactus, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, wintergreen

2 points
 
by 405Kingabout 9 years agoIn a good mood for now - don't piss me off.

TFA Earl grey, I love it! Gives a bit more throat hit also which is a plus for me.

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

What kind of juices do you use it in?

2 points
 
by HocusKrokusabout 9 years agoFrugivore

DIYFS Holy Vanilla.

-5 points
 
by vapingatfiftyabout 9 years ago

10% FA Joy.

3 points
 
by nw167about 9 years ago

I'm pretty sure that anything above 0.5% causes the name of this stuff to change from Joy to DAFUQ!?

6 points
 
by gunthersluntabout 9 years ago

I use it at 2% in a French Quarter Beignet recipe I found online and it's delicious, believe it or not!

1 points
 
by Bhd147about 9 years ago

Can you post?

1 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

What is a good description of Joy? I have seen it so much and want to try but I don't know where it would fit.

3 points
 
by nw167about 9 years ago

Straight up yeast is what I get from it. Like the subtle yeasty smell that you get from some freshly baked bread, except concentrated and infused with evil.

I bought some out of hype fueled curiosity, but I don't think I'm at that level yet. I got my fruity vapes down, and I'm getting some nice creamy recipes working, but I suck at composining anything vapable using crusty, biscuity, bakery niceness, and I feel like Joy is a step up from that.

I think if I were to reach a point where I'd mixed a fine tasting scone recipe, with an almost crumbly mouth feel and perfect balance of sweetness, Joy would be the finishing touch to add authenticity. But for now, I just got an orange capped PET bottle full of essence of yeast sat on my shelf.

2 points
 
by MadRetardedabout 9 years ago

Saltine crackers, and yeast

2 points
 
by Ro6ert66about 9 years ago

What does it do? I've only tested solo sub 5% and very low in mixes.

8 points
 
by vapingatfiftyabout 9 years ago

> What does it do?

It adds a layer of downvotes to the mix.

3 points
 
by gertvanjoeabout 9 years ago

Especially for those with more refined karmabuds

2 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorabout 9 years agoMixologist

You sound salty, bro.

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