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I haven't purchased juice in almost a year, until today.
submitted about 9 years ago by SenorPierre

I've been in the process of moving to a different city and last night I needed to come back home for a few days. unfortunately, I only had about 20mls of my last home brew with me. so I went down to the local shop and bought a bottle of Super Strudel... jesus. soooo much sweetener. probably has at most, 3 flavors. and they charged me 22$ for a 30 ml.

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by ocdudebroabout 9 years agoFrugivore

Me neither. Was thinking about trying these grape flavors from lost art. Maybe one day I'll feel stupid enough to pay 25$ for 30ml but I doubt it

5 points
 
by VapeQueen214about 9 years ago

Theres at least 10% sweetener in those flavors they're just terrible. Everything lost art makes is artificial tasting trash.

2 points
 
by fatclownbabyabout 9 years agoMixologist

OMG I traded a kid some diy juice for a few flavors that because I heard food things. Threw it all out after a few tries.

5 points
 
by sd_junglistabout 9 years ago

Yup, pretty much. Was given a bottle by the company. For me it was actually vapable compared to 80% of the other rubbish on the market, but def. sweetener city. There's 2 bottles of juice I'll waste my money on anymore. Shurb and Royalty 2. The rest (I've tried a whoooole lot of commercial juice as I run a business selling it) is shit. Blows my fing mind that people go bonkers for such garbage

2 points
 
by CausticCatalystabout 9 years ago

If you have to have real Shurb Breazy is selling jtjm shurb for $9 if you use the coupon code OCULUS. But I would also highly recommend you try captaincannibal's clone.

1 points
 
by sd_junglistabout 9 years ago

Thanks for the heads up!

1 points
 
by Scottopusabout 9 years ago

Honest question, because maybe my palate sucks? What is wrong with sweetener?

I've been adding .25% sucralose to most of my recipes recently, including some of the tried and true recipes on this forum and I feel like it brings out the other flavors much more. Strawberry in particular I can't really taste without it.

Is it a time thing? Will I dislike it the longer I vape? It's genuinely been bothering me.

3 points
 
by rhahaloabout 9 years ago

Most complaints about sweetener are due to the fact that it's usually the main flavor and not an accent like you are doing.

3 points
 
by catdumplingabout 9 years ago

.25% isn't that much. I'll do .50%-1% of sweetener (although I'm moving from sucralose back to EM), and even that's fairly low compared to most commercially-manufactured brands. They'll do 5%-10%, which is a ridiculous amount of sweetener, plus it gunks the shit out of your coils.

One thing I've recently discovered: I ran out of PG, so made some max VG mixes a couple nights back. They're a bit sweeter than normal, which makes sense given VG's slight sweetness. If someone wants to bump up the sweetness level a little, without using sweeteners, trying going for max VG (which in my case is about 85% VG, the only PG is from the flavorings.) I was missing the throat hit of my usual 70/30 for a couple days, but now I'm used to it and enjoying it.

3 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

they both have their separate merits, sometimes you need to use both. Also marshmallow and meringue work really good for sweetening things without using sucralose

3 points
 
by catdumplingabout 9 years ago

I was too lazy to mix for a couple days, so I dipped into my stash of commercial juice. Labrat Liquids and Plumes of Hazard are still great, not overly sweet at all (and I know the PoH guys actually specified "no sweeteners of any kind" in their juices.) Most of the Phillip Rocke stuff I have has a fuckload of sweetener and was almost unvapable (although TBH I haven't liked most of their flavors anyway.) I was reminded why I didn't finish a lot of the bottles I had in the cupboard!

3 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

that's how you know its actually a good juice, they don't use sweeteners to cover up their crappy or linear recipe, the recipe speaks for itself.

1 points
 
by Auxxabout 9 years ago

I've noticed that EU made juices are usually a lot lot better than US ones. They are not so sweet and flavours are more complex. But I still prefer my own stuff.

1 points
 
by eloc49about 9 years ago

Relevant question: how can I make Space Jam eclipse since Capella doesn't sell the tobacco flavor anymore?

1 points
 
by SenorPierreabout 9 years ago

good question. I never was much on tobacco favors.

1 points
 
by eloc49about 9 years ago

Me either, but eclipse is different. When someone told me its flavor profile after I'd been camping it for a while I was suprised

1 points
 
by YelnatstreboRabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

About a month and a half ago, I bought some Steep Pop Deez whatever it's called. Only because it came with a surprise (metal wide-bore drip tip thing) and because the owners of the shop are cool as shit and I go there a lot to pick up stuff for my dad. Anyway, I still have like over half of it left because I can't vape it for too long and I have to rewick after.

1 points
 
by midnightlamplightabout 9 years ago

It's been half a decade since I bought juice but I've wasted so much money on flavorings. No ragrets though.

1 points
 
by DrDoobie22about 9 years ago

I buy once in a blue moon. I actually just ordered some juices from Bombies cause Ive never tried them and sometimes I need something else to either cleanse the pallet, find inspiration or just try a company that Ive heard a lot of good things about.

-2 points
 
by saltacabout 9 years ago

We all know that our own concoctions are great.

However there are some things that we can't reproduce successfully, no matter how many people try in a concerted effort.

The white whale for myself (and a lot of others) is Cosmic Fogs' Milk and Honey, so I still buy this every few months.

If you're complaining about buying a shit juice, then yeah... bad luck. However if you're complaining about buying a shit juice for a price you think is too expensive then thats all on you.

As a DIY-er I know when I'm going to run out, and I can figure out how far in advance I need to make a new bottle. By this point in time all of us DIY-ers can pretty much predict when we're going to run out and how far in advance we need to make a new batch.

If you moved back home last night you would have had at least a few days notice of when you would run out, right? And I'm guessing your moving back home wasn't on a whim, so you must've known for at least a week that you would be doing that, right?

Sorry... I do understand you're just trying to say you bought a juice that you don't like, but don't try and stack the virtues of DIY onto the reason it is shit... Lots of companies make fantastic juices.

I think it would have been more constructive and informative if your post title was something like "Super Strudel is a really bad juice" and then informed us in the text that it was too sweet and over priced.

7 points
 
by SenorPierreabout 9 years ago

what I meant to convey was that I have went almost a year without buying juice, and when I do I bought the only bottle that fit a profile I knew I would like, and it wasn't as good as something I could have made myself.

I'm not saying it wasn't good, because it is pretty decent. I just could have made a better bottle for much much less.

usually I do keep several bottles in reserve, but the last 4 weeks have been really hectic with moving and my job location changing to the city I'm living in before I was moved up there.

0 points
 
by saltacabout 9 years ago

Well... to be honest you probably could have conveyed that a bit better ;)

However I totally understand what you'e talking about - it just didn't come across in your post. That (imho) looked like more of a /r/circlejerk type post - which is why I pulled you up on it.

I take a lot of stock from peoples personal experiences of companies and products, so I like to make sure that whatever I hear can be verified - or at least justified with some anecdotal stories.

So no hard feelings, I just wanted some explanation on what you were posting and why.

2 points
 
by Shawnessyabout 9 years ago

I've been trying to recreate Illuminati Vapers, Lion for years. I just can't get close. That ube custard is so hard to nail.

2 points
 
by probywan1337about 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

I've been working on MnH for so long. I would seriously pay $1000 for even a decent hint of what is in it lol I know it's marshmallow and peanut butter taste of some sort, but the juice description says there is honey in it which I'm highly doubtful of

1 points
 
by saltacabout 9 years ago

I'm pretty sure I've tried every recipe posted on the web for this and then tweaked them to try and get closer but none of them have been exact.

Its not an obsession... but sometimes I wonder what would happen if I did stumble across the perfect mix one day.

2 points
 
by fatclownbabyabout 9 years agoMixologist

My white whale is Placid

3 points
 
by ECDEUabout 9 years ago

I have a friend that would spend like $50 at sales times, just on placid, and so I tried to make a copy of it and that friend swears by it and quit buying placid and now just pays me for a fraction of the price. It's super simple.

  • TFA Honeysuckle 3%
  • TFA Pear 7%
  • TFA Key Lime 2%
  • Koolada .5%
  • TFA Strawberry Ripe 5%

The main adjustments I make for certain people is just increase the lime or menthol if they want, but this recipe is probably the closest to the original.

3 points
 
by matroxman11about 9 years ago

Oh man I have all of those except the koolada

1 points
 
by fatclownbabyabout 9 years agoMixologist

Oh great! Thanks, that's basically the same as mine minus the coolada! I'll have to get it.

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