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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of July 18, 2016
submitted about 9 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by SupedoSpadeabout 9 years ago

Still barely able to keep up with the proposed new regulations by the FDA, I'm curious as to what exactly it will affect? Should I buy all my flavors in bulk now (I don't use nicotine), as well as new mods and tanks I had planned? Or is it just more taxes will be applied and more money will need to be spent?

3 points
 
by Paleone123about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Unknown. DIY stuff was never originally intended for ejuice, so it will probably never go away. Hardware is a different story, but until all the lawsuits settle out it's pointless to hoard anything.

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by DIYdoofusabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I agree with you. However, you might find deals from vendors fearing the worst.

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by art-n-scienceabout 9 years ago

Are there any good resources for 100% VG DIY. I have been successfully making my own 100% VG juice for the entire 3 months since my last cig, but I feel like it could be better. Keep in mind that I don't know what good juice is like since my reaction is so violent and so quick to th PG.

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

What do you mean by resources? You just need VG based flavors. You could also check out VaporBase

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by art-n-scienceabout 9 years ago

There are nuances (apparently) not present when mixing with pg. The need for a thinner dilatant (h2o), and flavor ratios due to vg's carrying capacity as well as dealing with waters ability to insta-kill a VG flavor.

I have used typical diy recipes and methodology but it really isn't very helpful and was wondering if anyone else had been through this trial and error that I am going through.

2 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4rfw2d/real_flavors_reviewstasting_opinion/

Sounds like what you mean.

2 points
 
by art-n-scienceabout 9 years ago

That's a great singular post. I do use the real flavors, as they are essentially next door to my work.

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by coop34about 9 years ago

Well, in that case, I would really like to know your opinions on them. Any favorites or standouts? Any recipes you care to share, or are they well suited as single flavors?

A week ago I bought and mixed 6 different ones all @12% standalone, 60vg/40pg. Based on the post that I linked to I am not planning on trying them until after a month.

That company is new to a lot of us, and if you have some thoughts or tips to share, we would be appreciative.

1 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

I only know you need to seriously up your steep times.

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by Baron_Biscuitabout 9 years ago

First DIY order

Vegetable Glycerine 100ml × 2 Propylene Glycol 100ml × 1 30ml Unicorn Bottle × 2 3ml Pipettes (Pack of 10) × 1 Empty 10ml E Liquid Bottles × 5

Vanilla Bean Ice Cream Perfumer's Apprentice Flavour Concentrate × 1 Strawberry Perfumer's Apprentice Flavour Concentrate × 1m Cheesecake (Graham Crust) Perfumer's Apprentice Flavour Concentrate × 1 Bavarian Cream (DX) Perfumer's Apprentice Flavour Concentrate × 1 Sweet Cream (DX) Perfumer's Apprentice Flavour Concentrate × 1 Vanilla Custard Perfumer's Apprentice Flavour Concentrate × 1 Strawberry (Ripe) Perfumer's Apprentice Flavour Concentrate × 1

Recipes: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/121795/Mother%2527s+Unicorn+Milk http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/104221/Mustard+Milk+-+Simple+Strawberries+and+Cream

all flavours are in 10ml bottles and i dont want nicotine. Total price is 26 pounds without shipping, ordered at Vapable.com

I know i still need a scale so what did i miss except that? any other opininions are also welcome.

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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

You'll be wanting more bottles very soon but other than the scale, that looks like a solid first order. Welcome to DIY!

1 points
 
by SkepticSlothabout 9 years ago

I find pipettes to be worthless - I have a bag I haven't touched in over a year. Syringes are what I prefer - one of these days I'll get around to a scale and start mixing by weight.

2 points
 
by theBigGloomabout 9 years ago

Not exactly a mixing question, but more just related DIY in general. Does anyone know if the recent PA Vapor tax will include liquid nicotine base for DIY? Unflavored, just suspended in VG or PG.

Thanks

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

If the vendor is located in PA and it is an e-cig product, then yes it is. But I don't think there are any Nicotine suppliers located here in PA

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by theBigGloomabout 9 years ago

For the PA tax, if you purchase out of state online, you have to report it on your taxes. Failure to do so will result in $5,000 fine or jail time according to the legislation. So being out of state is not my concern.

Is unflavored nicotine suspended in PG or VG for DIY still considered an e-cig product? They mostly just refer to "e-juice" in the papers, which is why I was trying to get some other opinions. I'm not sure that the liquid nicotine classifies as an e-cig product or not.

I appreciate your reply!

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

States don't have the right to access your personal purchase history. There's no way they can enforce the law. It also violates tariff law and there's no way it will be allowed to stand.

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by shinfo44about 9 years ago

Looking to stockpile on some nicotine before August. I've seen many conflicting reports on what the general consensus is for best quality nicotine on this subreddit. The three I'm looking at is CarolinaXtracts, Luquid Barn, and Nude Nictoine. Is there a brand and type of nicotine that even pretty much agrees on?Thanks in advance for any advice.

2 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Carolina extract is the agreed upon top quality. Very expensive, though

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by shinfo44about 9 years ago

Sorry in advance for this weird question, but why is it considered top quality? What about it makes it more unquie than the other brands? Is the price worth it?

Fairly new to DYI and my only experience with nicotine is some 36mg PG based nicotine from ecig express. I don't really notice any off taste or peppery taste but then again I don't have any experience with anything else so it could be shit and I don't realize it. Looking to purchase 100mg or maybe 48mg from a nicotine vendor.

3 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

Carolina uses some kinda cool extraction process. No opinion for or against them, but I can't see it being any better than Vape Clarity. Check out some reviews for both under the Verified Vendors link.

2 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Cleaner flavor, less throathit, less muting of added flavors.

2 points
 
by worklagabout 9 years ago

looking to do a lemon lime juice for the summer, can someone point me in a good direction for lime juice? i've got the lemon flavoring already

Also are there flavors for, like, standard popsicles (red, orange, purple, green)

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by chewymidgetabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

FA Lime Cold Pressed and Distilled are very popular and potent. TFA Keylime is also good.

For the popsicles I would search around Eliquidrecipes.com and see if anything exists. Those can be pretty simple though. You can get away with single flavor mixes for popsicles.

1 points
 
by BuryMeInSmokeabout 9 years ago

CAP Lemon Lime is a pretty good standalone flavour.

2 points
 
by j_blancoooabout 9 years ago

I've got a rather simple question, how much should I plan on spending to get started mixing my own juice?

3 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Just like any hobby, it really depends which route you take. For about $200 you could be good to go for a long time.

Nicotine probably about $35 for 250mL of 100mg/mL

PG/VG maybe another $35 for a gallon of each

$30 for a scale

$30 for 100 30mL bottles

Another $30 on flavorings for recipes you think look good

Of course you can find cheaper options, but if you budgeted and saved up $200, that would be more than enough.

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by coop34about 9 years ago

$100? Thats a hard one to answer, so here is some homework that will give you the answer.

First seek out highly rated recipes with POSITIVE feedback (there are some real turds out there). Then go to either Bull City Vapor or Gremlindiy and price the smallest size bottles of flavors to make them. Go ahead and price a few mixing supplies (syringes, beakers, empty bottles). And vg and pg. You can also check Essential Depot's prices for that.

Expect to spend most of the money on the nicotine. Dont skimp here, because it is the whole point anyway, amma right? Vape Clarity gets my money, but check out all the reviews in the Verified Vendors link.

1 points
 
by j_blancoooabout 9 years ago

Thanks for the advice I'm going to look into all of this and hopefully place my first order this week

1 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

Cool. Hit me up if you have any questions.

Welcome!

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by queuetueabout 9 years agoAllTheFlavors Creator/Admin

I posted this last Christmas, it still holds up reasonably well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/3svhtt/diy_starter_kit/

1 points
 
by wafflepriest1about 9 years ago

I spent just under $100 for a scale, a 450 ml of VG, 225 ml of PG, 100 mg 125 ml of nicotine, bottles and a syringe for nicotine, and enough flavoring for three recipes (10 or so individual flavors). I am just now running out of the PG and VG and have been mixing for three to four months. Hope this helps!

2 points
 
by Moneyworks22about 9 years ago

Im thinking about mixing my own ejuice. Where is a good place to order flavor concentrates? Not expensive ones as im just starting and will proably waste a good amount making batches.

2 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

Bull City Vapor for the largest selection across all the major brands. Gremlindiy is a very close second. IMO you won't have to look anywhere else.

1 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Get your recipes from the top of alltheflavors or elr, then use our verified vendors page here to decide where you want to order your flavors.

2 points
 
by Proto-jetsamabout 9 years ago

What do you guys use to modify the aftertaste on a juice? I have a couple of recipes that are good on the inhale, good on the exhale, but then leave my mouth feeling gross afterwards.

2 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

I wished there was a magical "something". I sometimes have to really work thru a few revisions to balance out the ingredients. Can you post up the exact recipe(s) that you have an issue with aftertaste?

2 points
 
by Proto-jetsamabout 9 years ago

Yes, I can, but I'm going to screw up the formatting and make everyone sad. I'm sure of it.

  • Honeydew (TPA) 4.00%
  • Pear (TFA) 2.50%
  • Watermelon (TPA) 2.00%
  • Fuji Apple (FA) 2.00%
  • Marshmallow (TPA) 1.00%
  • Cactus (INW) 0.50%

It is basically a Honeydew/Pear vape. The Apple and watermelon are there for a little bit of variety and the marshmallow is in there just to take away some of the harshness of the Honeydew and Watermelon.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

That's too much TFA Honeydew, especially combined with Cactus. Just looking at that, I can already taste soap. Try cutting the Honeydew in half. Please let me know if that doesn't solve the problem.

2 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

I can't stand TFA Honeydew, even at 2%. I however recommend FLV Wild Melon. Honeydew and watermelon is how I perceive it. But Cactus may be your problem here, Some people,myself included, get a soapy aftertaste even lower than you have it.

Does a good steep help at all?

1 points
 
by SkepticSlothabout 9 years ago

Try a little strawberry instead of the marshmellow. One of my first recipes was a Honey Pearry clone that was honeydew (4%), strawberry (4%), pear (2%) and apricot (2%). Not harsh at all. I also mix a very simple strawberry/watermelon that's very mellow.

2 points
 
by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

How forgiving is TFA koolada? For example if I know it's going to be a scorcher can I add a few drops to a 10ml bottle of premade juice and shake & vape?

4 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

I wouldn't go adding a "few" drops to a 10ml bottle, but 1 to 2 drops added and then shake and vape is probably going to give you a little cooling effect without ruining your juice. If you find that 2 drops per 10ml isn't working for you, try 3 next time.

Some people are more sensitive to it than others and some detect a weird chemically-treated paper type taste that's worse when mixed with some flavors such as creams than it is when mixed with fruits.

2 points
 
by Bevlarabout 9 years ago

Thanks for the reply. I guess I could have chosen my words more carefully. I meant can koolada be shake and vaped into a premixed bottle or does it need a few days steeping.

I will play around with it when it arrives and see what levels I like.

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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

It does not need any steeping.

2 points
 
by jiff_smoothiestabout 9 years ago

Is there a significant difference between VG and PG based nicotine? Does it simply come down to preference?

I'm about to run out of my 48 mg/ml VG nicotine, and am thinking about getting PG based instead in hopes it's a little easier to work with.

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

It's easier to work with, yes.

2 points
 
by BuryMeInSmokeabout 9 years ago

Preference.

I go for 70/30PG nic now. Much easier to work with than 100%VG and makes mixing high VG juices with a lot of flavouring a bit easier.

2 points
 
by madMycoabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

i thought i had everything planned out then i noticed my scale only does measurments to 1 decimal place. i know the one you guys suggest but will mine suffice till i can pick that one up?

3 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

That scale would be most useful at about 100mL or more. You'll have trouble mixing a 10mL batch because a .3g reading could be .25-.34, giving you a variance of almost 1% with any measurements.

2 points
 
by madMycoabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

i ordered a NN sample of nic a few months ago that at out at room temp for probably 2 weeks. i had forgot about it but tossed it in the freezer then. its still clear and am wondering if i can use it still?

3 points
 
by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

My first bottle of nude nic I was a dummy and always just stored it in my cabinet above my fridge; no argon, no freezer, nothin'. Lasted me about a year. It always tasted fine to me. Looking back now that I have stored my nic better, I can see where it probably wasn't as good (especially toward the end), but I wouldn't really worry about it. Oxygen is the biggest enemy so if you didn't open it shouldn't have degraded much.

2 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

It should be fine.

2 points
 
by TylerTheSandwichabout 9 years ago

Okay, this is a really dumb question I'm sure, but can essential oils be used in a vape recipe in anyway? I've read that there are several "essential oil vaporizers", and I just wondered if it was possible to make my own juice. I have pretty bad ADHD, so having lavender or eucalyptus in my juice would be amazing. Again, sorry if this is a stupid question, just wondering if this is possible, and if someone has a link to recipes of any kind? Thanks!

4 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

No.

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by Apexifiedabout 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

The link you provided actually says Yes. haha

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

Oh Shit, you're right, it does. It's been too long since I read it. Hopefully /u/TylerTheSandwich took away from it the same thing I did when I read before I started DIY; that vaping something called "oil" is a bad idea unless you know exactly what you're doing.

> There are thousands of essential oils in existence, so yes, the majority probably are not OK to inhale

This comment on that post is pretty much what I got from it long time ago. But I should have just linked to a Wikipedia article on lipid pneumonia. Oops :(

2 points
 
by mlNikonabout 9 years ago

Can someone explain to me how entries are sorted in the monthly recipe thread? It doesn't seem to be by date or points, I'm a little confused thanks.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

Are you on mobile? I'm not sure that all mobile apps will let you sort it differently, but on desktop you can sort it by points ("top" or by date "new" and "old."). The default sorting is by "best" which is often but not always the same as "top" - it's determined by some kind of algorithm I don't know all the details about.

2 points
 
by Karate_Pork_Chopabout 9 years ago

First go at diy and decided to craft r/overacheiver 's homage to Stanley Clarks Snake Oil. Fantastic clone imho. However, the recipe calls for Koolada 10%. I bought Koolada ( no 10% listed after the name). Is it the same stuff or is Koolada 10 a dilution in PG? Have searched and can't find the awnser

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

You can buy Koolada in the form of crystals or diluted in PG. If you bought Koolada and it's a liquid, it's probably 10% dissolved in PG, so there is no need to dilute it further. How much does the recipe call for?

2 points
 
by Karate_Pork_Chopabout 9 years ago

It's in liquid form from TPA. Recipe calls for 1.5%. Thanks for the response.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

That's Koolada 10%, you're good.

1.5% is of it is alotta Koolada, but I've never tried that recipe so I don't know, maybe it works in there.

2 points
 
by Snowpuddlesabout 9 years ago

About to make my first order. I don't enjoy fruity flavors much, and lean toward desserts. Is this a solid first order for that type of stuff? Cookies and Cream, cinnamon rolls, waffles, donuts.

Bavarian Cream (TPA)

Brown Sugar (TPA)

Cake Batter (Cap)

Caramel (Original) (TPA)

Cinnamon Danish Swirl (Cap)

Cookies and Cream (FW)

Glazed Doughnut (Cap)

Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (FW)

Vanilla Custard v1 (Cap)

Waffle (Belgian) (TPA)

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by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

CAP Glazed Doughnut tastes like Play-doh to most people. I'd skip that one and get CAP Sugar Cookie and/or TFA Cheesecake (Graham Crust) instead. Those two are versatile, must-have flavors. But really, the best thing you can do is find some recipes you want to make first, get the flavors you need for those, and play around with the flavors later.

2 points
 
by Snowpuddlesabout 9 years ago

Thanks. I have found 3 or 4 decently rated recipes I would like to try. They are fairly simple and have some overlap in flavors. I may keep the donut and add in the sugar cookie too. It's really not all too expensive. What are your favorite dessert recipes?

3 points
 
by bogey_againabout 9 years ago

I second the Cinapple Fritter with FA Cinnamon Ceylon

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

I do enjoy fruity vapes, so my favorite dessert recipes are fruit+ bakery combos like Strawberry Shortcake Bar and Cinnamon Apple Fritter. Sounds like you might enjoy Enyawreklaw's Funfetti or InsigmaTherory's French Quarter clone. Or my simple Sugar Cookie (8% Sugar Cookie, 4% Vanilla Custard) or simple Snickerdoodle (7% Sugar Cookie, 3% Cinnamon Danish Swirl, 3% Vanilla Custard, 1% TFA Marshmallow) recipes.

1 points
 
by SkepticSlothabout 9 years ago

Not a fan of TPA caramel - Cappellas is IMHO a much better flavor.

2 points
 
by Olliebirdabout 9 years ago

I need a math check before I mix my first bottle by weight.

48mg Nic in 50/50 VG/PG - 120ml Bottle

(4.8 * 1.01) + (47.6 * 1.038) + (47.6 * 1.26)

4.848 + 49.4088 + 59.976

114.2328g / 120 ml

.95194 g/ml

Does this look correct?

3 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

You should be using an eliquid calculator so that you don't have to ask people to check your math and more importantly so you don't fuck up. This is a downloadable calculator that is very good or if you don't want to download something you should use the calculator on All The Flavors.

Also, in your example you didn't list your target nicotine

1 points
 
by Olliebirdabout 9 years ago

To be clear....I'm not looking for the target nic. I'm looking for the weight of my nicotine. I have a calculator. However, I have to input the weight of my nicotine solution for it to properly calculate how many grams I should use to meet my final target strength. That's what I'm asking for a check on. I'm using this excerpt from this post in the sidebar.

>If you have a mix of Nicotine that is not listed above the calculation is fairly simple:

>48mg VG based nicotine solution. That's 4.8% pure nicotine and 95.2% pure VG. Pure nicotine weighs 1.01g/ml and Pure VG weights 1.26g/ml. Let's assume we have 100ml for simplicity with decimal points.

>4.8 x 1.01 = 4.848 grams. 95.2 x 1.26 = 119.952 grams. If we add these two together: 4.848 + 119.952 = 124.8 grams. Divide it by 100 and we have our weight per ml for 48mg nic. 124.8 / 100 = 1.248 g/ml. This same breakdown can be done for 50/50 blends, just know that the non pure nicotine portion of your base is split 50/50, for example, 60ml in 50/50 mix = 6% pure nic, 94% left over = 47% VG, 47% PG.

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Got it. I don't understand why the company you bought nic from wouldn't list the weight and include it in your package.

I think you're supposed to divide your final number by 100 and not 120 and that would leave you with 1.14g/mL, but I could be wrong.

1 points
 
by Paleone123about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Get a juice calculator. There are several on the sidebar. That way you can do the calcs by hand if you want to understand it, but check yourself no matter the input variables.

And no, it doesn't look correct because your original volumes don't add up to 120. With that much VG your final density should be higher than 1.

Edit: If you are trying to do percentages you need to divide by 100 at the end, not 120

1 points
 
by Olliebirdabout 9 years ago

In this excerpt:

>If you have a mix of Nicotine that is not listed above the calculation is fairly simple:

>48mg VG based nicotine solution. That's 4.8% pure nicotine and 95.2% pure VG. Pure nicotine weighs 1.01g/ml and Pure VG weights 1.26g/ml. Let's assume we have 100ml for simplicity with decimal points.

>4.8 x 1.01 = 4.848 grams. 95.2 x 1.26 = 119.952 grams. If we add these two together: 4.848 + 119.952 = 124.8 grams. Divide it by 100 and we have our weight per ml for 48mg nic. 124.8 / 100 = 1.248 g/ml. This same breakdown can be done for 50/50 blends, just know that the non pure nicotine portion of your base is split 50/50, for example, 60ml in 50/50 mix = 6% pure nic, 94% left over = 47% VG, 47% PG.

from this post in the sidebar.

This post seems to have come to the same conclusion that I did with affirmation from commenters. If this is now wrong, I'm not sure how to go about it because the information is conflicting.

The juice calcs come up with how much of each part I need to mix into the final bottle. Which is fine. But to get the right final grams need per part, I need to input the initial weights. That's what I'm looking for.

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by Paleone123about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I'm still not sure what you're trying to accomplish, the last two juice calcs on the sidebar will both accept a blended base for nicotine, and automatically figure the weight based on the ratio. But for the sake of getting you what you asked, You should have divided by 100, not 120, and here's why. You are calculating the grams PER mL, so you are basically finding the density of ONE mL, not the whole bottle, you are using volumetric percentages of one unit (in this case an mL). The method you are using is correct until the end. In order to change percentages into decimals you must divide by 100. The volume of the bottle you started with is irrelevant to the density, it would be the same no matter what size bottle you have, and your numbers would be the same, because they are percentages of a whole. Your answer is 1.142 g/mL

2 points
 
by Major_Chaosabout 9 years ago

So I bought my first nic base, unfortunately Fedex didn't ring the doorbell so it sat outside in 100 degree weather for over an hour, and when I opened up the box the liquid had a yellow/brown tint which I'm led to believe means it already heavily oxidized. I rushed it to a dark freezer to minimize the damage, but is there anything else I can do to offset the reduced quality? Or am I just stuck with a gallon of super harsh hitting nicotine?

2 points
 
by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Don't think there is much you can do (that I know of). Where did you order the nic from? I don't think the vendor would replace it since this wasn't their fault, but it might be worth a try to contact them and see what they have to say or if they have any suggestions.

2 points
 
by belikegrouchabout 9 years ago

Did you try it yet? It might still be fine honestly. I have ordered nic that was clear, pink, yellowish. All were fine and had no throat hit. And an hour inside a box, inside a sealed bottle doesn't seem too long.

As for doing anything else to minimize the oxidization, not that I know of. Except minimize opening it a bunch. Maybe split it into 30ml bottles and then just leave those in the freezer, except for your daily use one for the month.

2 points
 
by groovyvaporabout 9 years ago

Just a quick question. I want flavor west peach, is my only option of buying bulk to buy straight from flavor west? I'm only seeing 10-30 ml bottles of flavoring on the recommended sites. Thanks!

2 points
 
by bogey_againabout 9 years ago

You can buy it here

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by groovyvaporabout 9 years ago

You are an amazing person, thank you so much.

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by bogey_againabout 9 years ago

One more thing "they offer weight-based free shipping option: As long as you are between 2 - 25lbs you'd qualify for free shipping.

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by TogiraIkonoka0618about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Having an issue with pineapple

I really like the taste of pineapple like in Medusa by Zeus and really want to like Pineapple basil gelato by u/TheCatHimself

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4kgzul/

But after 20 days of steeping I'm still getting a harsh almost medicinal taste from it thats overpowering the rest of the juice to the point i dont even think i can taste the zen garden. I know my nic is good and I mixed it at 70/30. I'm using a duel 28/36 fused clapton build rated at .42 ohm.

Is there anything I can do to help this because the flavor profile seems like one I'd really like.

1 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

I haven't tried Hangsen pineapple, but none of those other ingredients have a medicinal taste. My advice is to try it by itself (as with all flavors).

And some people report Koolada as having a weird chemical taste.

1 points
 
by TogiraIkonoka0618about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Maybe medicinal is the wrong word for it. But I have tried all the flavor besides zen and koolada. It is definitely coming from the pineapple (tasted it in them by themselves after a 8 day steep). I guess i don't really know how to describe it, it just tastes different

2 points
 
by bigbearvaporabout 9 years ago

Hello everyone. i am fairly new to the diy community and I've search, and search the side bar, looked at the flavor reviews, and even just searched it out right. my question is what is bad about Flavor West yellow cake and why is it so frowned upon? I have a 10ml bottle, and listening to beginner blending and in the mix pod cast they always say they dont use it any more why is that? any information is greatly appreciated. Ps. Sorry if my punctuation is horrible working on it

3 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

That is because of the discovery that FW uses corn syrup in some concentrates. And from what I understand, they tried to hide it. Here is a list of those concentrates, plus an explanation why to avoid corn syrup.

FWIW, I still occasionally make one recipe with a small % of YC, but I'm hard-headed:).

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 9 years ago

Which recipe is that, Coop?

2 points
 
by coop34about 9 years ago

Rhodonite.

2 points
 
by Ryswizzleabout 9 years ago

I want to get into mixing, but does anyone know a decent place to get a kit in the UK?

Is there a good guide anywhere to start mixing?

Thanks guys

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by lcedlightningabout 9 years ago

Is it better to order a few 30mls of what I think I'd like (tfa grape juice and koolada) or get a bunch of 10mls? How long does a 10ml generally last?

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by queuetueabout 9 years agoAllTheFlavors Creator/Admin

Find well-reviewed recipes you want to try. Choose the ingredients in them. Determine how much you want to make before the next order. Buy that amount of flavoring.

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by queuetueabout 9 years agoAllTheFlavors Creator/Admin

An example: If you went with TFA Grape Juice:

https://alltheflavors.com/flavors/the-flavor-apprentice-grape-juice

It's not used in very many recipes, which means it's likely unpopular or undiscovered. The people who have used it have used it on average at 5.6%, with some at 7.5% and some at 5%.

If you chose 5.6%, and you wanted to make 100ml, you would need approximately 5.6ml of that flavor. To make 30ml, you would need about 1.8 ml. To make a liter, you would need 56 ml.

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by lcedlightningabout 9 years ago

Wow, this is super helpful! I've never seen this site, thank you! I guess I'll start with some mixes that are well-known and work my way up to the grape koolada that I want so bad. I really appreciate all of the advice. So excited to have D/A/AP back in my juice.

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by queuetueabout 9 years agoAllTheFlavors Creator/Admin

It's pretty new - I'm still writing it. ;)

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by queuetueabout 9 years agoAllTheFlavors Creator/Admin

Strawberry Ripe, on the other hand is as popular as heck:

https://alltheflavors.com/flavors/the-flavor-apprentice-strawberry-ripe

Used in 1100 recipes with tons of public recipes you can choose from, at an average of 4.8%

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by queuetueabout 9 years agoAllTheFlavors Creator/Admin

Buying flavors randomly will result in random e-liquid, most likely stuff you will NOT like.

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by BuryMeInSmokeabout 9 years ago

Generally, 10-15mLs in my opinion. I have a lot of 30mL's that I bought almost two years ago that are still 50-75% full. FWIW, I only vape DIY juice, and vape 10-12mL of juice a day.

For FA/FLV/INW where the percentage used is usually 1-3% a 10-15mL will last a long time.

30mLs for things like TFA Strawberry, CAP Vanilla Custard, CAP Sugar Cookie - flavours that are liked by almost everyone and you will use in probably every second mix.

As you get a bit more experienced mixing you'll start to get a better feel for how much you should be ordering.

If you pick up TFA Grape Juice get some TFA Grape Candy as well, they go well together. /u/queuetue's percentages are about right. Koolada you'll be using in the 0.5-2.0% range.

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by Sublimpinalabout 9 years ago

Does anyone in the UK/EU know if makemyvape is any good? Their prices seem quite low (£30~ for 1 litre of 50:50 plus a few bottles and flavours + Nic) but I've seen people recommend other sites over them. Cheers :)

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by exoticCentipedeabout 9 years ago

I first started out with a kit from them, yeah they aren't bad but the kit did include some items that you might not use. It may be better to buy stuff individually.

You should shop around Vapable, Justvape24/7, Vapour Depot, but I was not disappointed with MakeMyVape. Make sure you already have a recipe picked out (with positive reviews) to get the right flavours for a mix.

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by Sublimpinalabout 9 years ago

Sweet, thanks dude. The reason I was so interested in makemyvape in the first place was because they seemed pretty cheap to me. I thought - maybe - the reason behind that was because they were a bit rubbish.

Thanks for the advice dude! I've been on the rocks about getting into DIY for ages - but I have some recipes picked out and I was just afraid to make the jump.

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by exoticCentipedeabout 9 years ago

No worries, I made the mistake of not researching recipes etc first so I bought junk flavourings that are still unopened.

I just checked the prices and they aren't the cheapest, a facebook group I'm in is currently raving about DarkStar, which seems cheaper but doesn't do kits.

MakeMyVape 72mg PG Nic 100ml is £18.99 (actually quite expensive) DarkStar 72mg PG Nic 100ml is £7.99, heard nothing but good things but only ordered VG from there.

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by Pedrodonbredrenabout 9 years ago

So I have the tutti fruity and strawberry cream flavor Can I use then as a single flavor? (What percentage? ) Or only in a recipe? (Any suggestions?)

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by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

You can use any flavor as a single flavor. There are no rules saying that you cannot. In general, TFA flavors are not as potent as some other flavoring companies so TFA flavors are typically used in the range of 3-10%. There are definitely some exceptions to the rule, though. Type the exact flavor name of a flavor you want to know about into the search bar and see if you can find any information. Or go to sites like e-liquid-recipes.com and alltheflavors.com and search for the flavor there and see what the average percentage used for those flavors is

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by Pedrodonbredrenabout 9 years ago

Thank you :D

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by anodizerabout 9 years ago

Anyone with experience on Virginia by FA? I got it and used about 1% on some ry4double+vanilla swirl (which I like by itself) but turned out to be shit and too strong of a flavor. Any ideas that might save it?

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by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I would assume a 1-2 week steep might smooth it out.

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by dukman4about 9 years ago

Ok, I mixed my first bottle with 2.5 ml of 36 MG nic and then filled the rest of the 30 mil bottle with flavoring and vg neither have nic..I'm going for 3mg/ml.tried it after 1 day and I'm getting over nicked and I'm used to 3mg/ml. I received 500 ml of nic and shook it for 5 min and then separated it in to 16 30 mil bottles...is this my error in math or.........

100%vg based nic

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by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

You added the correct amount of nic to your 30mL bottle, but shouldn't you confirm that your math is correct before deciding to mix up a bottle? You can refer to one of the many ejuice calculators that will do the math for you.

Is your nic VG or PG based?

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by dukman4about 9 years ago

100%vg...I did use the calculator but Just wanted to make sure I was doing it corectly....thanks

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by goldfish18about 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

VG nicotine should be shaken extremely well before separating into smaller containers and before every use. I mean shaken really well in order to avoid hot spots. You could have not shaken it well enough before mixing your 30mL batch.

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by BuryMeInSmokeabout 9 years ago

Did you measure your VG and flavourings? If so, how much did you add?

If not, don't assume a "30mL" bottle is actually 30mL, they generally hold a little more than that - which would mean your juice would be weaker than intended, but worth pointing out.

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by dukman4about 9 years ago

Thanks...I did measure..the bottle was about 97%full

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by dukman4about 9 years ago

2.5 nic 2.4 and 1.2 ml flavor and 23.5 vg

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by BuryMeInSmokeabout 9 years ago

The numbers add up.

Follow /u/goldfish18's advice above.

If you keep having problems I'd suggest picking up a test kit. NudeNic have sent out batches before that have been stronger than stated, personally, I haven't had any problems.

The only other thing I'd add, if you haven't done it already, is to give the mixed juice a really good shake. If you're using a bottle with a rubber dropper make sure you drip the liquid in that into the bottle and reshake.

It's possible that using 100%VG nic and a high VG mix that even with a decent shake you haven't mixed the ingredients well enough and you've got hotspots inside your mixed juice.

My method when making juice is to add the nic and flavours (and PG if you're using it) first, then shake. Add half the required VG, shake again. Add the remaining VG, and shake again. It adds a little time to your mixing but I feel this takes off a day or two of steep time.

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by skulciusabout 9 years ago

Is it easier to mix by weight or mil?

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by chewymidgetabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Weight hands down. Less cleaning, less mess and way faster finished product.

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by skulciusabout 9 years ago

Is it hard to figure out the weights of juices haven't mixed anything at all yet but looking to put in an order this wknd I think!

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by Dejenaabout 9 years ago

The calculator pretty much does all the figuring/mathing for you. Just figure out which recipes you want, and order for the recipes. Good luck!

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by get_touchedabout 9 years ago

Ia the weight of just vg and pg the same universally? If they are not, how vast of a difference are we talking?

What about 3mg nic too?

I bought a premixer vg pg nic base and im finding that i have to keep flavoring at 12% to keep it ok for my throat but the cost is that the flavors are really light. At 15% it is vapeable but i will start feeling the pg. Im tempted to spike my premix base with some plain ol vg. I think the pg in the premix is not allowing me to add any more than 12 % . So i ask about the weights of the foundations so i can see if i can get some idea of how much vg i should spike into the premix base.

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by wh1skeyk1ngabout 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Without boring you with a wall of text, /u/Botboy141 does an excellent job of explaining mixing nic blends by wieght here. If you're adding straight VG, 1.26g/mL is going to be your multiplier, and I believe most other specific gravities are discussed in that post somewhere as well.

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by T_Maceabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Taking nic out of the freezer today. How long should I let it sit before I can shake it up and use it?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 9 years ago

Until it warms to room temp

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by T_Maceabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Well no shit Sherlock. Lol, sorry, gut reaction. I know it's until it warms up I wanted approximate time it takes to reach room temp.

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by Liatnorabout 9 years ago

Looking for something close to the bakery type chocolate in Andirondak's Stanwix.Anyone got any input?

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by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

I've only tested two chocolates, and so far the closest thing I can put in that category is HS Australian Chocolate. I believe the FA Cocoa or Chocolate might be more up your alley here, but I haven't tried either of those. I would suggest HiC's "My Notes On" for some information on those two.

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by thebigchileabout 9 years ago

sweetener TFA is the same as sucralosa ?

  • http://www.bullcityvapor.com/sweetener-tfa/
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by CheebaSteebaabout 9 years agoFrugivore

Virtually the same. I believe it's at a 10% solution.
From TFA Website, "Ingredients: Propylene Glycol, Water, Sucralose."

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by Troilerabout 9 years ago

Hi I just bought 6 mg nic nbase %70 vg and %30 pg mixed with %7 cookie and %3 banana. However, it is overflavoured and the taste is bad.

It's been only a week now. Any suggestions? It's my first time on DIY btw. Someone told me that over-breathing can take the taste of the aroma out. So maybe i should overbreath it? And i really need the solution because i used 100 ml :D I don't want to dump it.

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