TFA flavourants that contain vomit odor in their mixture - Listing

submitted about 9 years ago by Wayne0

Edit: This is not a complete listing. The easiest way is to click on the CAS number for a chemical, and you'll see all flavors that contain the chemical.

(https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/specsheetlist.aspx)

Hey folks, so some people are sensitive to the 'vomit' odor/flavor (butyric acid) of some of the TFA flavourants.

I created and ran a quick script on all of their posted MSDS listings for Butyric acid, and it came back with these 15.

I imagine these might also include some of their 'Perfumers' line as well.

Hope the list helps someone

~~Black Cherry Flavor~~ Butyric acid <2-methyl->

Cheesecake Flavor

DX Butterscotch Flavor

DX Hazelnut Flavor

DX Red Velvet Flavor

Fudge Brownie Flavor

Hazelnut Flavor

~~Kiwi (Double) Flavor~~ Butyric acid <2-methyl->

~~Nectarine Flavor~~ Butyric acid <2-methyl->

Orange Mandarin Flavor

~~Peach Flavor~~ Butyric acid <2-methyl->

Pralines and Cream Flavor

Red Velvet Cake Flavor

Strawberries and Cream Flavor * Also Butyric acid <2-methyl->

Strawberry Flavor * Also Butyric acid <2-methyl->

Comments

12 points

by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Or you can click the CAS number for butyric acid and get the listing of all flavors that contain that CAS....

12 points

by Eizoozabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

so, long story short, your list is rather innaccurate.

A. TPA lists some of their flavors as butyric acid and some as butanoic acid, but these are synonymous. Your list did not account for flavors which have "butanoic acid" listed, which was immediately obvious to me since TFA Sweet Cream did not appear on your list. An actual list of flavors with butyric acid can be found here

Bacon Flavor
Banana Cream Flavor
Butterscotch Flavor
Caramel Candy Flavor
Cheesecake Flavor
Coffee (Kona) Flavor
Dairy/Milk Flavor
Dulce de Leche Flavor
DX Banana Cream
DX Butterscotch Flavor
DX Caramel Original
DX Hazelnut Flavor
DX Red Velvet Flavor
DX Sweet Cream Flavor
Fudge Brownie Flavor
Gingerbread Cookie
Greek Yogurt Flavor
Green Apple Flavor
Hazelnut Flavor
Hazelnut Praline Flavor
Milk Chocolate Flavor
Mocha Flavor
Orange Mandarin Flavor
Papaya Flavor
Pizza Flavor
Pralines and Cream Flavor
Pumpkin Flavor
Red Velvet Cake Flavor
Red Velvet Flavor (no AP)
Strawberries and Cream Flavor
Strawberry Flavor
Sweet Cream Flavor
Tiramisu Flavor
Waffle Flavor
White Chocolate Flavor

B. You also listed some flavors that contain butyric acid <2-methyl> which is similar, but distinct. I cannot speak to whether those with a sensitivity to butyric acid would have issues with this chemical, but it is important to make the distinction.

Its cool you were trying to go and do the heavy lifting for others, but in the future, just use TFA's CAS numbers to find what you're looking for!

paging /u/abdada to confirm my chemistry..

3 points

by Wayne0about 9 years ago

Thanks. I wasn't aware of all these nuances. Like I said, a quick script that searched for 'butyric acid'. If I had known it was as easy as clicking on that CAS number, I wouldn't have even posted at all. Skiddlz mentioned it earlier, but I didn't have a chance to go figure it out.

The more we can all learn, the better. Much thanks.

1 points

by DirkDeadeyeabout 9 years ago

I almost puked when I saw bacon flavor. Hmm, bacon, cake, butter, maple. Call it wake and vape. No, fuck that.

1 points

by h1p1n3about 9 years ago

I've done a bacon/maple pecan flavor that was straight up a Mcgriddle. It was fairly decent and even sold a bunch of it.

1 points

by Binsky89about 9 years ago

I've actually had a bacon flavor from a local B&M, and it wasn't terrible. Tasted slightly burnt, but was definitely bacon.

Now, another B&M near me has a BBQ Sandwich flavor that tastes just like a sloppy joe. Oddly satisfying.

6 points

by UncleManifestorabout 9 years agoMixologist

DX Banana Cream

Dairy/Milk

Sweet Cream

(Not necessarily containing BA, but vomitty none the less)

3 points

by PalefaceVaperabout 9 years ago

That damn Dairy\Milk, tough nut to crack. When getting into DIY I thought it was gonna be my ace in the hole for all my sweet milky needs; because surely that's how mothers milk, unicorns milk, milk man, and all the other strawberry or milky "premium juice" was made.

Purchasing that flavor and being disappointed is almost a right of passage for every new DIY'er. Lol

1 points

by UncleManifestorabout 9 years agoMixologist

Same here. Still got two nearly full bottles of it left.

1 points

by iusethisshitatworkabout 9 years ago

TFA Milk is absolutely incredible at 2%.

1 points

by PalefaceVaperabout 9 years ago

Are you using it at 2% straight up as the only milk\cream note in a mix? Or are you adding a bunch of other cream type flavors in conjunction to get a quality result?

1 points

by catdumplingabout 9 years ago

TFA Meringue is a good addition for that too.

2 points

by PalefaceVaperabout 9 years ago

Don't own the TFA version, but love the FA version for milk & cream mixes

2 points

by cexshunabout 9 years ago

DX Banana Cream is the worst offender. It makes the entire room smell like barf. Luckily, it was pretty easy to recreate with FA flavors and remain "DX" style.

2 points

by UncleManifestorabout 9 years agoMixologist

I do use still DX Banana cream, but not much of it. I add it to FA Cream fresh and FA Banana, and yeah, the whole room usually smells like a bar that doesn't check IDs.

3 points

by Grumpy_Kongabout 9 years ago

Here is a post from this very sub from a year ago discussing adding minute amounts of butyric acid as a body enhancer for custard.

2 points

by vigg-o-ramaabout 9 years ago

DX Bavarian Cream.

So sad, I tried, I really tried to learn to accept it, but just cannot.

2 points

by bobbysavageabout 9 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

~~Also vanilla bean gelato and Juicy peach dx (whatever that is)~~

2 points

by Eizoozabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

nope and nope!

1 points

by bobbysavageabout 9 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

Ahh i Am mistaken and mobile. good lookin out.

2 points

by dreecerabout 9 years ago

TFA Greek Yogurt is worse than all of these combined

1 points

by Kev-Adamsabout 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Yeah, I get it from the Strawberries and Cream Flavor for sure, not soo much just the Strawberry Flavor ?!

Nearly put me off of the whole DIY thing but then i found the Mustard Milk recipe and no more 'Vomit'.

(Thank You Fizzmustard <3) :D

1 points

by Bastard_LichKingabout 9 years ago

I had no idea this was in juices, and people were smelling vomit while vaping certain flavors.

How awful. Thanks for this.

5 points

by skiddlzninjaabout 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

It's not that bad. If you haven't noticed it yet, you won't notice it except in yogurts. It's in a ton of FA, CAP, and FLv flavors since it's a substitute for diacetyl.

1 points

by highsoabout 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I mostly notice it in the 'room note' and not in the taste itself

1 points

by surfishermanabout 9 years ago

DX Sweet Cream is the only DX thats stinks like vomit to me .

2 points

by DustForVomitabout 9 years agoMixologist

The original sweet cream also smells like vomit.

1 points

by surfishermanabout 9 years ago

Wow, didn't know that .

Thanks

1 points

by MNVapesabout 9 years ago

I knew there was a reason I hated TFA strawberry. I wish they'd do a butyric free version because the smell and taste is amazing if you can manage to ignore the puke note

0 points

by gigantic_meaty_ballsabout 9 years ago

Is this a witchhunt post?

2 points

by Wayne0about 9 years ago

Nah, I don't smell it, but my wife does and wanted mt to mix something up without it. She also smells pepper, but not sure what to search for, yet.