Utahns, were screwed.

submitted about 9 years ago by Djvapes

Its offical, no more vape mail for utah residents. Looks like ill be using a remail service or setting up a pobox 200 miles away.

http://utsmokefree.org

http://blog.mtbakervapor.com/cessation-of-services-to-the-state-of-utah/

Comments

5 points

by badf1ngerabout 9 years ago

Seems to me that the law makes a great profit opportunity for the person who's ready to open a few DIY shops in UT selling supplies.

4 points

by miikey12about 9 years ago

I live here in beautiful Utah and I think they are going to have a bit of a hard time enforcing this. I know some vendors, like you said MBV, are doing it on their end but as far as Utah regulating online orders, I don't think it's as easy as they think. Especially when a lot of the products we use are for other industries as well. Not saying they can't, just saying it's not just that easy.

2 points

by Daheavybabout 9 years ago

Have you ever tried to have wine delivered? It's going to make things much more difficult as vendors are likely to say fuck it when it comes to Utah. (regardless of 'dual use')

4 points

by Paleone123about 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

The only thing this should affect is nicotine base. Every other component has a legitimate alternate use. Hardware might be an issue, but technically that's just either a flashlight or a DC/DC power converter.

3 points

by Djvapesabout 9 years ago

I just heard back from both bcv and liquid barn and ir seems utahs safe for the time being. Thank the jesus!

2 points

by mattypants6969about 9 years ago

I live here in Utah and have been DIYing for years now. I'm beyond pissed about this. I went from something horrible by smoking to something that has weened me down to 1.5 mg of nicotine. I think it's negligible and might have saved my life. Now my whole family are off cigs and vape the juice I make. These ignorant people take vaping so wrong. They are going about it the wrong way as well. Sad day

2 points

by T_Maceabout 9 years ago

If I lived in the US I would happily act as a proxy for anyone in Utah. I'm sure there are lots of vapers on this sub who would do the same. The orders get sent to the proxy and then proxy sends them to you (Utahns). I doubt USPS will be in the mood to search through packages and weed out ecig stuff. They're probably enforce this based on the sender so civilian to civilian packages should make it through. NOTE: I'm just guessing here.

1 points

by drifthappensabout 9 years ago

I'll also offer to be a mail proxy for anyone that needs it.

-15 points

by ZacRedactabout 9 years ago

This is the DIY sub... so DIY?

13 points

by Djvapesabout 9 years ago

I would like to think tjat fellow diyers would appreciate new information regarding accessibility to diy supplies.

8 points

by ZacRedactabout 9 years ago

I see nothing in the actual bill, or the related definitions of electronic cigarette in Utah law, that indicate any DIY supplies will be affected by this law. This is the actual bill. The only section that might be able to exclude nicotine concentrate sales is on lines 177 and 178: > "Electronic cigarette substance" means any substance, including liquid containing nicotine, used or intended for use in an electronic cigarette.

Now, to me that looks like it only applies to liquids ready to vape, not nicotine concentrates, but I'm not a lawyer. Nonetheless, mixing supplies, flavorings, and VG/PG is certainly not included in this legislation.

But by all means, let's keep the downvotes coming...

5 points

by sixfiveliveabout 9 years ago

Nic concentrate is, in fact, liquid containing nicotine.

2 points

by probywan1337about 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

I'm pretty sure it affects even diy mail

3 points

by ZacRedactabout 9 years ago

See my comment above - it would at most affect nicotine sales, but even that seems unlikely to me.