DIY is not in danger at all. Things might become more difficult under new regulations but as we've seen with other forms of prohibition, where there's a will, there's a way.

The cost of commercially produced e-juice is going to rise and the selection is going to greatly diminish, two factors that will both increase interest in DIY, which already seems to be growing rapidly. As DIY grows, more and more vapers will personally know someone who makes their own juice and does it well, and DIY will lose the "bathtub juice" stigma. Eventually DIY or obtaining juice from someone who makes their own will be the most common source of e-juice. Companies like ECX that cater to DIY'ers are going to do well.

I'm really excited for the future of DIY. It seems there are a few companies really catering to us now and we are getting some really good flavorings and product. Probably the best thing though is it seems our knowledge bases & recipes are growing exponentially and I love it!

I feel that with the deeming regs & the knowledge and material that is growing, DIY will grow also. I don't know if it's going to be quite as much growth as we might think, since it's only going to be hobbyists that really get in to DIY. With the amount of growth that will come, a lot of people probably won't feel the need to learn how to mix since they will be able to find a juice slinger.

I'm slightly worried that our nic will go up in price and we may have a more difficult time getting it, but I feel like no matter what we will be able to get our nic, and at the very least, our bases & flavorings.

I think it will grow very very fast because of the regulations and I do not see the DIY industry in danger currently. Hard to believe that they can regulate simple flavorings to an extend where we can no longer buy them. Nic might be a problem at some point though.

Probably going to exponentially increase, depending on if the ruling actually goes forth. If not, it will probably only increase a small amount.

I'm with those who say it will most likely grow considering the upcoming regulations. Vapers are already trying to dive into DIY for this reason. Whether it's in danger, doubtful. They're essentially food-grade extracts; hard to put bans or regulations on that.

I believe the future of DIY is good and will continue to grow. The vaping market continues to grow. I think the biggest danger to that growth is poorly done regulation done by people with the wrong intention or ignorance. For DIY the only ingredient I worry about is the nicotine itself. Everything else I feel will be hard to regulate as it has many other uses.

Unfortunately I can see DIY absolutely blowing up when the FDA regs hit, and because of that the government will take notice. I feel like they'll scramble to regulate anything and everything DIY related. We're even seeing it happen with any flavors that are intended for vaping, but I can imagine nicotine being a hell of a lot harder to get.

As others have stated, we're going to see a huge influx of people moving over to DIY. The amount of people creating original recipes will go up, but I think most will just utilize the already vast library of recipes on the forums to mix juice cheap and sell it under the table. The demand for concentrates will increase big time. Also I think the world of DIY mod making will see an influx as people won't be able to get their hands of certain devices that they have grown accustomed to.

I can see the future of DIY slowly taking off at the time being, but I think as government rules and regulations start to come into effect, it might actually increase business due to the publicity DIY would get through announcing regulations. Every vendor should be ahead of the curve so to speak in regards to complying with new rules, as I've seen it in my own industry. Vendors that aren't on the ball may risk fines or permit rejections for failure to comply.

There are some excellent new flavorings popping up, and competition between flavor vendors seems to be a driving force behind coming up with new and unique flavors. I wouldn't really say the industry is in danger, because capitalism always finds a way to make their business work despite regulations. If anything, nicotine might be harder to obtain, but I think it will just be taxed to death and probably available in lesser concentrations without proper handling licenses.

Vaping in general feels like a real life-saver from a health standpoint, not to mention the fact that I've saved close to $3500 since I quit smoking 1.5 years ago, and maybe spent half that on gear and juice/supplies. My DIY hobby has consumed a great amount of my time, but has also yielded great rewards. As knowledge is gained and research gets published, I can see vaping becoming more popular than cigs. I just hope big tobacco doesn't take over the market.

Definitely going to be the way to go after regulations hit. I wish more people did it to keep it more accessible.

I feel like there will probably a lot of hoops the FDA will cause us to jump through in the future. I think it fares a better chance then the ejuice business, though.

I think it's going to become a lot more popular now.

I believe that the DIY scene will continue to grow and just get stronger with the new regulations, I think Nicotine may be a little harder to get hold off but i dont see any problems with VG & PG, I think the regulations will be a good and a bad thing for flavour concentrates, Company's like FW will have to step up their game (Good Thing) but it looks like i might be missing out on my tasty Diacetyl (Bad Thing), We will have a flood of new mixers, new recipes and new notes :D

I see diy growing but not as insanely as people try to predict. My thoughts on this derive from the food industry and how people rather go out to eat over cooking a meal. Someone would rather get some mediocre ribs from a chili's over cooking some ribs that would blow those out the water. Convenience being the selling point.

Now for the regulations on ecigs. I actually think that DIY is going to be the part of the ecig industry that will not be hit from the regulations. One reason is how most nicotine companies that I've contacted seem pretty nonchalant on the whole ordeal. Did I stock up anyways? Yea I did just out of being prepared if shit did hit the fan. Flavorings, VG, and PG is something I don't see being hit either unless advertised as a vaping product.

Thanks for the chance at the giveaway and its really cool that yall are doing this. Haven't seen any other company do a giveaway on DIYejuice.

Just since I started mixing (about a year ago), the DIY community has grown a lot and I love that! Of course we have the FDA regulations to thank for the growth, but I think that will make our community stronger. I would love to say that the regulations will not affect us however, I do not know if that is true or not. Since you guys are a respected vendor, I hope you can share with us your thoughts and what we can do to prepare for what is to come. Thanks for the chance to win your giveaway!

I think it will grow, then when regs hit diy candy flavors will become popular. Maybe pg based nicotine incest repellant for plants. Don't know what will happen but it's not going to die no matter what the government does.

DIY will continue to get bigger for three reasons.

1. Not all people can afford "premium" juice. They will look to DIY for its cost savings.

2. Health concern. The only way to know exactly what's in your juice is to make it yourself.

3. Vapers who are more into the hobby aspect of vaping also enjoy having more control. Coils, wick, mod, batteries and eventually juice. Everything can be customized. DIY, with its cost benefits, just makes this more appealing. If you want to go all in, you DIY.

I think it has no where to go but grow. Even if the FDA regulations go no where people who care about what they vape will always find what they need in DIY. Even if the regulations put a hurting on vaping none of the ingredients outside of nicotine are new to the global food industry, you'll always be able to get PG & VG and flavorings legally.

I see a lot more people learning about the chemistry involved and taking flavor creations to the next level, utilizing flavor knowledge as well as experience in how concentrates react with each other in an e liquid to create truly amazing juice that doesn't rely on 10% sweetener to taste good.

It's gonna be the ONLY way if regulations go through as planned.

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I think it's going to explode because of garbage government rulings. I know that personally I had been thinking about it for a while but didn't place my first order for diy supplies until the specter of not being able to choose from everything currently available was looming on the horizon.

DIY is going to explode. It's already starting. Vaping in general was created as a solution by the people and like all things that escape big government, big pharma, and big business they will try to stamp it out but it's never going to happen.

Big ups all the international friendly companies who dont need to lie and make shitty excuses to exclude the entire world.

Diy will hopefully grow to a point where more people see the idiocy in paying lots of money for something so dirt cheap to produce in bulk.

The regulations are far too over reaching on all fronts. Personally it seems to me like they just want their hands in an unregulated market and are trying to squeeze every penny they can while/if they can. I can understand some regulations to keep bad devices and liquid to a minimum but what they're doing is trying to completely shut the market down, to the point of not having a market they're so desperately trying to regulate. There's already evidence of vaping being healthier as well as people getting off of nicotine completely (one day but the hobbiest in me loves it! Haha). There still needs to be more research done since we don't know the full long term effects. Since it is helping people quit cigarettes it hurts the other markets which is why they are trying to regulate it so bad.

If/when these regulations fall on us, it'll only make DIY even stronger. There's too many ways you can use what's in e-liquid to make it unobtainable. Nicotine will be the hardest to get but even then it won't hinder us mixers as we'll find a way. This community already has amazing mixers that's willing to share their recipes for people to reproduce, which furthers the growth of DIY. I personally don't think DIY is in any danger.

Diy has grown alot in last few months alone. The only thing i think that will hurt diy is the fda putting reg on nic purchases and what they will do with all of that.

The future of DIY is simply the future of electronic cigarettes. Yes, the regulations will change. But our whole industry started with DIY, and it's that innovation and creativity that will carry it into the future. Remember, many store bought foods were humble home recipes before being discovered.

I see it getting more popular especially as vendors start dropping off. I've gone from saving recipies to beginning plans and making a shopping list. Baby steps.

I see DIY moving towards premix concentrates with the user adding PG/VG and their desired nicotine, especially if the regulations choke conventional juice profitability. Many of the arguments made about premium juices are inapplicable to the concentrate, and it will be much harder to regulate (but not impossible).

I definitely see more people getting into DIY and expanding. I think its growing and slowly becoming a more organized community. Even if these regulations are withdrawn and vaping becomes safe haven again, vapers have specifically lost their trust in anyone capable of telling us what to do. Its by far safer to be the type of adult who does things for themselves. Knowledge is power and we're running a hobby where knowledge is the only thing left that keeps us safe. With more people scared of what will be taxed and taken away, will come more recipes and less people buying overpriced and oversweetened products. I much prefer this because you never know which juices are owned by big tobacco anymore and I'd rather not give those devils any money.

I think that diy will explode in the coming months. Seeing b&ms closings their doors because of coming shitty ecig laws. and people(at least in this sub) realizing that there isn't such a thing as "premium juice". People I work with have already asked about me mixing juice for them, and I'm not any good lol. Btw where do you sell the concentrates on the site? Ive only seen the bronuts mix kit. I would have purchased a few if I saw them before I placed my order a few hours ago :(

I believe diy will grow quickly once people realize they are going to have to provide variety or go without variety.

Personally I think DIY will continue to grow, but I don't think it will explode overnight. As some others have mentioned here, I see that growth being an upward trend over the next few years as the FDA regs settle in and people can't get the vape they are used to. That being said, I also think that DIY won't appeal to a significant percentage of the vaping community, particularly those people that are just starting to vape to quit smoking and view it as a gateway to a healthier lifestyle. I also think that as DIY continues to grow we will see increased scrutiny from federal and state regulatory organizations. Personally, I think there will always be a way around these, but I'm confident we will see more hurdles to DIY'ing the way we are used to.

Definite increase, as more and more juice companies shut down due to the insane cost of entry the FDA is ruling people will start turning to DIY as their favorite brands disappear.

The only danger foreseen for DIY mixing would be accessing nicotine. Who will be able to get their hands on it, how much it will be, what regulations are put into effect, ect.

If nicotine is restricted and the average consumer can no longer purchase it, I still believe there will be a large DIY community making 0mg juices as well as people who stocked up large amounts. Although after that point I'm not sure it would continue to grow, but rather diminish because few people would jump in to start making 0mg juices.

Without doubt, DIY will grow with the oncoming FDA regulations, essentially, gutting an e-juice company's ability to produce recipes (what was it? a million per recipe/nic level/ pg.vg percentage?); however, I don't see DIY ever becoming the norm.
In my opinion, the most likely scenario for DIY e-juice is simply a widening of the current, for lack of a better term, infrastructure that DIY e-juice creates - that is, DIYers making juice and selling it in order to cover costs and time.

I, like many others it seems, think that DIY will continue to grow more companies shut down from the regulations. I just started two months ago and I've noticed I'm far from the only beginner. Liquid nicotine can't be regulated right now so unless they change that, DIY will continue to grow until it's the norm.

Thanks for the chance at the giveaway, and great idea for a conversation starter.

It all depends on how they regulate and the availability of ingredients. I personally will find a way even if I have to order overseas. I will probably end up selling to any vapors I know that still wanna vape. I will probably have to to offset cost of ordering that way if it comes to that.

It's gonna get big. We're resourceful people who love our hobby and a way to keep us of the cigarettes cheaply. Even here on base in Korea, soldiers are finding ways to get good concentrates through the mail and making their own liquid rather than buying extremely low priced cigarettes (~$1.50 a pack).

With good education and a welcoming community, the DIY e liquid community and ours here at Reddit will prosper

In my opinion, the new legislature offers a new opportunity for companies to premix flavors as concentrates, rather than selling a finished project. The FDA has already admitted that they would not be able to have jurisdiction over the individual ingredients. This could be a time for the community to come together as a whole.

If a few companies focus on creating nicotine concentrate only, sold like conventional E-juice, it would allow them, and other companies to create premixed flavor additives. In this way, companies we know and love could focus on on their craft, while a few bigger companies provide base.

This could very easily be a stepping stone for new mixers to try their own blends, and either improve on, or create their own flavors for us to enjoy.

I see the DIY subculture growing quickly. Personally, I had been on the fence about getting into this. I have read the items in the sidebar countless times, even sat in with a friend while he made some juices. The recent legislative decisions are what finally pushed me over the edge.

I foresee the price for quality nicotine rising. Even so, the cost analysis with the higher prices will still be far better than "premium" brands.

I think DIY is going to stay strong and feel more and more have been jumping on the DIY train

it will increase more and more as the regs hit premade juice

DIY will be the only option for people, like me, located in states such as NJ or NY. I love local B&Ms and shooting shit with friends at the store for a little a couple times a week. But so much of their profit comes from juice, so I don't see many of them staying open in my area for long. I'm starting to get into DIY slowly because even though it is cheaper, I'm in college and don't have the funds to start off with all the equipment right away.

I don't really feel like DIY is in any imminent danger. There may be some hurdles in the future getting nicotine, but it really seems like they're after finished products. I do think that we're already seeing a large amount of growth as a community, and can expect to have continued growth as the FDA situation unfolds. I'm holding out hope that some of the legal action that's moving against the regulations will help to smooth out our place in the world.

On the flipside I anticipate a sort of bubble after this period of growth. We'll swell in numbers, but as people lose interest or realize how much work goes in to gaining skill as a mixer many will lose interest, because DIY is definitely not about instant gratification. It's a patience game, along with a decent grasp on research, development over time, and organizational skills. At least to me it is.

I think DIY won't explode the way we may think. Some previous juice buyers will get into DIY, but many will not want the hassle and that will lead to...Current DIY friends and connections pumping out industrial levels of home brew. All the vapers will still want juice but they'll be willing to pay a premium price to DIYers who already invested in the stock and know-how to keep the juices flowing. My guess anyway.

I think that DIY will grow, but I think it will be a lot of people just making very basic recipes just to have something to vape. I'm sure there will be an influx of people that really want to learn how to make high quality liquids but I think that part of the community growth will be relatively small in comparison.

I doubt the DIY industry itself will be in danger aside from US based nicotine. I think that if the FDA moved to ban flavor concentrates there would be even more backlash. I use many of them in foods/candies as well and that's their main market.

I'm very excited save the regulations (duh), new products are being introduced (like PDO), new brands with higher ethics standards (RF?), different directions being taken and lots of healthy skepticism.

It's hard to say, given that it's too early right now to tell what complications the regulations will bring. I do think that if things get bad, DIY will see a big surge and we will only see improvement in the community.

Diy will be alright but if the sale of juice is outlawed there's going to be two types of black market mixers. The guys that mix really complex juice (even if it's not their own recipe) and sell 30ml for $10- $15 and people who race to the bottom with 1 or 2 flavorings selling 30ml for $5.

It's going to be a race to the bottom in price.

DIY is very promising imo. They can't phase out flavours because we use them in culinary settings too. VG and PG are basically impossible to ban since they've been used in everything way before vaping was introduced. Nicotine may or may not disappear, but there's always the home DIY route for that :) All these new flavours and influx of new DIY-ers looking to make juice for $2-3 a bottle rather than buy it for $20-30 means more awesome recipes and more people will get hooked on flavour making. It's a really fun adjunct to the great hobby of vaping and I see it getting even bigger among the ridiculous laws introduced as of late.

DIY is going to be the next big thing for vaping once these regulations go through. People won't be able to afford juice premade and will have to resort to DIY if they don't want to spend a fortune to stop smoking.

I think DIY uses chemicals that are too common and useful in other applications to be banned or even really regulated, aside from nicotine.

I see increased interest in DIY from the vaping community. I feel the risk is low that the new regulations will adversely affect amateur mixers. The availability of nicotine might be tricky. The availability of concentrates will probably not change. Although, you might consider re-branding from ECIGEXPRESS to something like FLAVOREXPRESS, for example.

With the new regulations coming into play, I foresee commercial juice becoming monopolized by a select few big corporations (big tobacco). Current major juice manufactures will either become subsidiaries or outright bought out by these mega giants. Prices will rise to the point of negating the cost vs smoking. Flavors will be generic, over sweetened, and mass marketed. Non DIY'ers will flock to their favorite brand names blindly like Wal-Mart shoppers, McDonalds patrons, and Budweiser drinkers. Closed system, cartridge delivery pods will assure a constant revenue source from future vapers entering the market.
DIY will become the only viable means of countering this appalling scenario. Whether it becomes an underground black market, or a home hobbyist activity, depends on both the interpretation of the regs and the intent of the individual mixers. In either case, the resourcefulness of a highly motivated DIY'er cannot and will not be suppressed by paid off political shills, touting regulations in the name of public health and youth advocacy. Those of us who know better look for the one true truth behind these lies, as it almost always is....money!
DIY or PAY!!!

I have just started DIY but I have fallen in love with it. I think as more people find that premium ejuice is overpriced and will become even more so with government involvement, they will learn about DIY. I honestly didn't know this stuff was so easy to make a month ago. I also love to try a different flavor everytime I go to buy eliquid so it was a perfect fit for me.

I think the future of DIY is it increasing in popularity. I'd say it's definitely growing in popularity, hell I just recently started (and ordered a bunch of stuff from your site no less). The only things I see the regs doing to affect DIY is perhaps making it more difficult to purchase nicotine and whenever the FDA decides to reclassify flavorings as tobacco since they apparently have the power to overrule science and language

In my opinion, DIY could actually grow as a result of more stringent regulations which may drive up the price of commercial ejuice even further. So the future of DIY is creamy my friends, with a strawberry top note.

DIY is here to stay. I think the future of DIY will explode with these new FDA deeming regulations. Juice makers will have to find new avenues to keep their business alive. One road that I think would be viable is selling their creations as a single concentrate. A simple mix and match menu of concentrate and base where the end user throws the 2 together for their favorite juice. I think that will bring more people into DIY after they see just how simple it is to mix their own ejuice.

I have a feeling in the future, juice vendors that have closed shop due to bills passing or lack of sales will start selling their recipes online which will in the end get more people to start mixing their favorite juice.

My only worry is the nic. Granted there are synthetic products I've heard about but the cost? They can't regulate the rest, but the nic I'm sure they will manage to put their mits on if this legislation continues without any change. Hoping that Sen Ron Johnson's inquiry to them will finally be answered as he seems fairly set on pressuring them to provide legitimate reasons for their decisions.

Like many have said, I think with pending regulations, the only thing we'll really need to worry about is access to nicotine. Otherwise, everything else will be unaffected. I don't believe, however, that DIY will take off as much as people think. There will be some hobbyists that aren't currently into DIY (many of the audience at ECR) that may switch over, but the average consumer won't be willing to take that jump. Which, unfortunately, means that a large portion of ecig users will either stop entirely or switch back to tobacco.

DIY is going to be near impossible to police. Nic may get a bit harder to get, but that'd be it. I have faith that I'll be able to make juice for as long as I decide to vape. Or have money to buy all the wonderfully delish flavors I can't afford haha

EDIT: Also glorious giveaway. I know all of us DIYers could use a whole lot of all of this!

I don't think DIY ejuice can ever really be shut down. All the ingredients are pretty reasonably obtained and there's a lot of information out there. I think it's growing steadily which is great even for those that don't do it themselves . As more vapers take the diy route, more non-vapers will see the process. They can see how clean and precise it is and how it is so clearly healthier than smoking.

I see DIY going in the direction of multiple ways...

a) a black market for liquids for vapors b) everyone trying to make liquids until they give up c) growing into a huge population that will be great for the community, I just hope the knowledge floats while useless things fall to the bottom of the well.

I definitely see it growing and people having interest, two guys at Taco Bell on my lunch break seemed super interested when I said I made my own juice. They didn't think it was possible, so I bet they're going to research it soon. It will allow more creative people to have an outlet definitely, I use it as a creative outlet and a hobby as well. So I definitely seeing it increasing by thousands.

I don't think the DIY industry is in any danger, the most I did for it was stock up on Nic. Everything else is pretty safe in my eyes. This is all for now at least. I fear the FDA will try to find a way to destroy DIY a couple of years down the road if they are undisturbed with their currant regs.

I think DIY is only going to grow because of everything. Once people realize that its simply not that hard, it will really take off. Especially with these ridiculous juice prices.

I think Diy will always be here. I know I will be stocking up on nicotine so I don't feel I'll run out anytime soon. I don't think there's anything the fda can do. They may tax nicotine a bit harsher but it will still be here

Personally,I think it's gonna take off. If the feeling regs stand,nic might disappear/be almost impossible to get,but I think diyers already making will probably change to 0 juice(if they aren't already)if that's the case,and stay there/quit completely(if they're quitting smoking,like me)just as a middle finger to the government/big tobacco.

To sum it up August 8th is the beginning of the end of The Vaping industry as we know it in the US. If you want to continue vaping a large variety of inexpensive liquids you're going to have to learn how to DIY.

i think DIY is going to get bigger. especially if NIC and flavor guys can stay under the radar.

I truly believe those of us that DIY are not in any danger since there will always be a way to get flavors, pg, vg, etc. The only thing that WAS truly worrisome (for me anyway) was getting ahold of the nicotine, and what that might eventually entail...However listening to recent FDA Q&A sessions it doesn't seem like the FDA has specific authority to regulate nicotine by itself (odd I know), as a matter of fact when questioned about DIY in general it almost seemed like they were giving us a free pass. As long as we as DIY'ers aren't selling it (not even one bottle to one friend!) we're okay and not considered "a manufacturer"....for now..........

In the two years I've been DIYing, I've seen steady growth in DIY. Will it increase after regulations come into effect? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. I expect that growth I've seen in the past to continue though, and like most things, that growth seems to be exponential.

The only danger I foresee for the DIY industry is for companies that market exclusively to the E-cigarette market. This seems to be what the FDA is hell bent on eradicating. As long as we can buy soap, candy, and baking supplies I don't think there will be too much problem. Nicotine was around before the 'magic' date so that may be OK too. At least, I hope so.

I feel that diy is going to just keep growing bigger as the regulations approach.I feel that it's the best way to vape what you like .I am sure nic will become hard to get flavorings are food grade mostly so we will be fine as long as you ecx are around.diy will become the future.

I'm not very worried about DIY in the future I predict that it will become much more popular, I'm worried though of purchasing nicotine in the future and with the popularity rising, it being much harder to source flavors without them being out of stock.

is going to save my pocket , and yes will be more growing . this sub is helping me a lot for broke student like me to DIY hehe

I see DIY Growing, definitely. It's already starting to. Of all the methods of having access to eliquid, I would say it's safest as far as regulation-wise. VG/PG will always be available, flavorings should always be available (especially vendors like Capella who are intended for other purposes)

I think there are two roads that could be followed at this point. DIY could flourish or it could be stomped out. It depends on how much overreach the courts allow. IF closed systems become the route of ecig regulation, we're going to be in trouble, but I think that is the road least likely. I think that we will actually flourish, and follow a road similar to homebrew beer. SE routes exist for liquid nicotine, flavors can easily be marketed for alternative uses, although the tobacco's may have a bit of a hard justification (though to me tobaccos just taste nutty and add earthiness to a mix.) I am hoping there is some sense left i the judicial branch of our government, and hope there will be some reining in of the FDA. I'm a hopeless optimist....who is preparing with liters of Nic in the freezer ;)

I'm new to vaping, and, after checking out the FDA regs and what they entail for the industry, I am going to be jumping into DIY feet first. I honestly believe that, if the FDA rules aren't changed, DIY is gonna the the way of the future and the only way to continue to vape in the next 2 years

I've just recently started myself and I see DIY growing more and more every day now. There's no way that it's in danger, if anything it's only going to thrive as more people move towards it.

We have already seen an influx of new DIYers. I expect it just to grow more and more, as it gets closer to crunch time. DIY will probably peak a short time after the regs go in effect. Just because of nicotine source. Though, this is a resourceful group.

It's just beyond me, in this day and age, that our lawmakers are willing to sit back and watch Americans die. All while filling their own pockets with big tobacco and pharmaceutical money. And, make me a criminal just because I want to stay a non-smoker.

Thanks to this community, I'll be alright. But, it just sickens me that so many people won't be able to experience what all of us have.

I see concentrates being the way many current juice makers will or should go as from my understanding even if juice is sold without nicotine it still would be classified as a tobacco product.

Money talks and BS walks.
This country USA is run by and for multi-national corporations and foreign interests. Say goodbye to home diyers. No more vape mail unless you're UsdA approved.
MBV has already suspended shipping any and all products to utah.
Sorry 'Muricans but you're vote never has nor will it ever count for anything.
lobby until you're blue in the face; Money talks...
Foreign interests write our laws.

i beleive diy is about to explode nd company's that band mixing easier will rise to the top

I don't see any dangers coming to the diy scene. Aside from scarcity due to high demand, I think we're all in the clear. (At least I hope so)

My guess is it will grow very quickly once the regs go into effect.

I met a new vaper this week in the 'wild'; she was working at Walgreens and talking about the kids trying to buy smokes. To make a long story short, she showed me her setup, and the next question was:
"What are we going to do when they try and ban it?"
I told her she would simply learn to mix, gave her my contact info and added her to some DIY groups. I think people who need to vape to stay off cigarettes are going to flock to DIY resources.

DIY is definitely growing. As more and more regulations are passed it will (and has already) to get quality juice at a reasonable price throughout the country. Brick and mortar vape shops routinely sell overpriced juice from less than reputable companies. Vaping has helped thousands quit smoking and help smokers save money. These people eventually find their way online to seek out more juice and better flavors at a better price. These regulations and proposed regulation are making it harder on them as well as the brick and mortar shops. They will eventually find that DIY is the most economical and sensible way to continue premium (pun intended) vaping. From the way I see it, government regulation is funneling everyone towards DIY and retailers like ECX who are reputable and big supporters of the community.

DIY will be safe, as they are only concerned with new products hitting the market after the deadline. While the vaping world comes to a so-called "freeze", the products we currently enjoy within DIY will still be legally purchasable - as these products are all individually FDA approved.

As others have said, nicotine may be scarce from the influx of new DIY'ers, but overall, I feel it will go untouched. If they try to touch it, I will be the first of many to retreat to my underground black market bunker and continue to vape and ensure others that still want to continue to vape, get too as well. I was a slave to tobacco for 12 years and finally was able to quit (1 1/2 years to date) with vaping. I'll do everything in my power to continue this life changing experience.

I don't really think DIY is in danger, there are so many uses for VG and PG and flavorings as of now but I think the only difficult thing that will be to get a hold of is nicotine but I don't think that'll be too hard to get if someone was eager enough.

I think we're growing. I'm surprised all the time when a new friend says they've started DIY as well. I always share my recipe spreadsheet with them right away so they have something to go off of.

I agree with many others thinking that DIY is gonna take off in the next couple years. Unfortunately , less people will start vaping and quit cigarettes because it will seem daunting to them. Glad I got in when I did! I hope I don't have to order nic from China.

I feel that the future of DIY is still a bit cloudy. I'm sure we will still be able to get all of our flavorings and what not. I believe that the only thing that will affect us is if they impose a limit on how much nic you can get at any point in time, but there are ways around that IMO.

I see the DIY scene growing exponentially due to the looming regulations. This is why I started DIY. At the very mention of said regulations, I jumped on the DIY bus, allbeit, I've been debating it for quite some time.

I don't really see the DIY industry being in danger. Even if the cost of nic goes up, I believe that we will find that many people will be looking to buy juice "under the table" so to speak. So we will be making more money to make up for any increase in cost. Granted, that will mean more work for the same profit, but that's life. If cost doesn't go up, then we will just be making more money.

DIY will be fine, although Utah might need some Berlin Airlift-style help. :-)

I think the future of DIY is going to expand like crazy. I personally just started mixing due to the recent regulation changes. I want to be prepared for the worst case scenario and insure I never have to go back to cigarettes again!!!

DIY will be fine. It will grow but, I don't think it will necessarily explode just because DIYing anything in general is never mainstream.

I'm excited to see what the future brings us from the flavor houses. DIY is growing in popularity and will continue to do so. Thanks for the giveaway!

I see DIY growing at a regular pace (probably the same as the past few years) but those that do will be busier in providing liquid to friends/family. The regulations, even without the current lawsuits, would take years to go into effect, I believe; so it will still be 7+ years before any major laws/regs go into place that affect DIY'ers negatively. Heavy-handed state laws (fucking Utah/Indiana) are a bigger issue now than fed regs. Frakkin shit I wish retarded people weren't so retarded. Good day to you, ECX.

I think in the short term DIY is going to explode. Long term I worry that the government will take notice - you'll see the obligatory "Vaping Materials Available For Practically Nothing on the 'DARK WEB'" expose piece on the morning news shows and the whole damn thing will get regulated into the ground.

Specifically - I think it's going to be illegal to even give away your juice to friends, since you haven't put your "product" through the vetting process.

I don't feel, much, if anything will change with diy with these regulations. At least I hope...

It definitely seems like it's growing, or at least more and more people are getting interested in it. Who knows, maybe one of those people that starts will turn into a great recipe maker like some we have here.

I don't think DIY is in danger, and I think it is about to explode in popularity for that very reason. Once people realize that they can vape whatever they want, for a fraction of the price of the stuff they may or may not be able to get pre-mixed, it's a done deal. Also, I think people will see it as a sort of "loophole" in the regulations, and some people love it when they feel like they are straddling the line of legality.

I am a very new mixer and new to this sub. I think it will grow. I have multiple reasons to start DIY. The FDA reg cloud and cost being the big ones. And I am sure those are some of the ones that will start bringing more as well.

I think the future of DIY is so bright! I can only see it growing as the new laws take affect and I do believe that will happen.

Vapors will be forced to learn to make their own juices and other things. I think though they will eventually find like all of us experienced mixers have found that it is a very enjoyable hobby.

I feel like DIY is at its prime. I've been dabbling in DIY for a couple years and it has never felt so easy to find recipes, flavor notes, and flavorings. I think DIY will grow as more people get concerned over regulations but I don't think it will be as large a population as people expect. A lot of people are simply too lazy. If DIY is to go mainstream then concentrates such as the ones Wayne put out will be why. People want simplicity. If they can buy a bottle flavoring and know exactly how much to put in and then just add VG, PG, and nic then it has the potential to spread to a wider audience.

I used to be in the homebrew(beer) "scene" before my kids were born and the DIY eJuice community feels similar in many ways... Except it takes a lot less time to mix something up. :)

I feel the future of DIY is going to be around for a while. The people getting into DIY is huge right now, all over the world. I admin a few FB groups and we get plenty of people wanting to join daily. The only way DIY would ever be in danger would be if there were issues with people getting sick with nicotine concentrations, or better yet, not knowing what they are doing. Hell accidents happen. If public health or any other association wanted to shut down DIY, they would have a hard time doing it. Anyways, thanks for the opportunity ECX and have a wonderful week and safe holiday.

Boom!