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How to sanitize LDPE Bottles and do they leach plastic?
submitted over 9 years ago by T_MaceTobacconist

Combing this sub for commonly agreed upon bottle cleaning processes. Couldn't find anything official. Sidebar has failed me or have I failed it?

  1. LDPE bottles, how to sanitize?

  2. Are they not worth reusing?

  3. Should I sanitize them before using when buying in bulk?

  4. Do they leach plastic when coming in contact with nicotine? (From what I read, yes.) Erm, how bad is that?

You'll notice I say sanitize not sterilize.

Methods I'm aware of and pros and cons:

-Dishwasher: Pros>easy Cons>Rinse cycle may not get all the soap out due to bottle openings not being very big.

-Boiling: Pros>easy Cons>does boiling cause plastic to leach maybe?

-Alcohol: Pros>dries quick Cons>it's an added expense

-Microwave: Pros>? Cons>Mama told me never to microwave the tupper ware. Maybe same logic applies here.

-Good Ol Fashioned Soap and Water: Pros>Safe Cons>Doesn't kill all the creepy crawlies

-Bleach: Pros>easy-ish and kills lots of germs Cons>Would have to be super duper careful to rinse well, don't wanna vape that stuff.

Ok, hopefully there is some consensus on how to do this. Or you will just tell me to throw them away :)

 

Edit: Thanks for all the info!

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by maniacpsychoover 9 years ago

Ldpe does not leech into juice, aroma volatiles however will leech INTO ldpe, throw them out bottles are cheap enough

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by LiviuBeluover 9 years ago

I also use vinegar & water after washing with dish soap.

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by madpianoover 9 years ago

Vinegar doesn't disinfect. It's good for killing some bacteria, but not so good for mould. Use alcohol or baby bottle sterilising fluid

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by skiddlzninjaover 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

They're not worth reusing. The plastic can hold certain flavors and fuck up anything you mix in it. They don't leach plastic, but they can impart a stale taste upon a mix that a well sealed glass would not.

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by grrumble66over 9 years ago

> 1. LDPE bottles, how to sanitize?

  1. Are they not worth reusing?
    
  2. Should I sanitize them before using when buying in bulk?
    
  3. Do they leach plastic when coming in contact with nicotine? (From what I read, yes.) Erm, how bad is that?
    
  4. Soap and water? A lot of dishwashing soaps are antibacterial now. Also, PG has antibacterial properties.

  5. I reuse mine, either with the same liquid or not using a bottle, for example, strawberry cream after it has had a strong cinnamon or menthol liquid in it.

  6. They are blow molded. Depends on how much you trust Chinese air. :P

  7. I haven't heard anything about nicotine reactions and I would be surprised if true. LDPE is used to hold acids without problems.

I would say that if you are concerned with residual flavors and don't mind buying more then do that. I've found that rinsing with hot water will get rid of most residuals.

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by T_Maceover 9 years ago

Cheers. I'm bathing some bottles right now in soapy water and will see how she goes.

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by panxzzover 9 years ago

I use the dishwasher and instead of soap I use PBW which is a rinse free powdered sanitizer used in brewing beer

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by gpzalover 9 years ago

No PBW is a cleaner (Powdered Brewery Wash) It is actually very close to oxyclean. Rinse and sanitation is needed after wash.

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by goatnapperover 9 years ago
  1. I don't bother.

  2. They are so cheap, I just toss them.

  3. I don't bother.

  4. If they do, I never noticed it.

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by coop34over 9 years ago

I got along for a while just rinsing with hot tap water and air drying. PITA, and I thought I was saving big bucks. After some mixes were tainted by the previous contents, I realized that 17 bucks for a pack of 50 from BCV is a good deal. Now I am one and done, unless I am remaking the same or close recipe again.

No I dont sanitize the new bottles. I have a no hassle policy these days.

I hope like hell nic doesnt cause leaching, because I keep 100mg in a 30ml for mixing. And I havent noticed a problem in the year or so I have been doing that.

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by KevinStoleyover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Some flavors are hard to get rid of the smell in bottles, so I have 2 methods depending on what flavor was in the bottle and how strong it was.

First method: For something light I just soak my bottles in very hot water with some blue Dawn dish soap. Rinse thoroughly and air dry.

Second method: If the bottle had something strong like mint that lingers, I put some baking soda in the bottle with hot water and shake vigourously then let soak overnight in hot water with baking soda.

Rinse very thoroughly and then do the first method. Make sure you rinse these very very well because any leftover baking soda residue can dry and get crusty on the bottles and alter flavor, sometimes I do this multiple times to make sure they are rinsed well enough.

I've got some really strong smells out of my old bottles doing these methods.

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by T_Maceover 9 years ago

Great insight thanks!!

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by ODesauridoover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I wash with soap and water. I throw away if I notice any marks or lingering smell after washing.

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by wh1skeyk1ngover 9 years ago

One thing I've learned is that TFA Banana Ripe will never leave a plastic bottle or the rubber part of the dropper.

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by T_Maceover 9 years ago

Ya, I'm pretty much resigned at this point to just buy new bottles every time unless mixing similar flavors. I'm 'bathing' some bottles as we speak and will see if the flavors stick.

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by madpianoover 9 years ago

LDPE and HDPE bottles are pretty good and withstand most flavours. Citrus can be iffy with LDPE, I'd recommend glass or HDPE for those. (I sell cosmetics and work a lot with essential oils which are very similar)

To disinfect them, use cold steriliser. You find them in the baby equipment sections to sterilise baby bottles as they also cannot be heated. Follow the instructions and make sure you use the recommended bowl for sterilising (some react with metals).

I do that when I get the containers from the factory as they are not sterile.

If you do not add water to your liquids, you won't need to sterilise each time, if you do, make sure you use up liquids quickly and sterilise each time. Glycerine and PG are self preserving, but add water and you have the perfect bug food, sugar and water....

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by T_Maceover 9 years ago

Awesome, possibly best solution so far. So, that sterilizer, I'm just gonna ask, which one doesn't react with metal? I'll be Googling but if you know off the top of your head which is good for LDPE and doesn't have ill effects on metal, please let me know! Link welcome :)

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by madpianoover 9 years ago

Just go to the baby supply aisle (make sure no one spots you) and check the small print on the bottles or packages. But it doesn't matter if it reacts with metal, just don't use a metal kitchen sink or bowl to soak them in. I use Milton, but I am in the UK. And as I clean a lot of plastic jars and bottles at a time, I use a plastic tub.

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by T_Maceover 9 years ago

Thanks!

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by T_Maceover 9 years ago

Last question, does it remove flavor scents that seep into the plastic?

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by datafryover 9 years ago

Not a pro, just starting out, but I've been using oxy clean followed by a super hot thorough (sp?) rinse. It's becoming a PITA, and probably will switch,.

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by T_Maceover 9 years ago

Ya dude. I just had mine soaking in hot soapy water inside a big mason jar for over and hour. Rinsed. Still smelled. They are now bathing in vinegar. We'll see if that works.

Next step, paint thinner! Nah just kidding. Will try baking soda, then hydrogen peroxide, then maybe alcohol and if all else fails, recycling bin. But I don't wanna do it. Seems wasteful from an environmental perspective.

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