Looking for the most diketone-rich (preferably butter flavor) concentrate available. Serious question.

submitted over 9 years ago by avtomat5150

Ok, so I definitely care if my juices contain diacetyl, acetyl propionol, and acetoin. Except unlike most of the vaping public, I care to include them. I use Cap Vanilla Custard v1 at 5% minimum in all of my ADVs, I am an absolute whore to custards/creams/buttery goodness. I know what D/A/AP taste like, and I like it in my juice.

Cap Golden Butter does not quite do it, and the flavor it imparts is a bit strange. It's almost like it's just the underlying sensation of butter when mixed with other flavors, rather than a straight diacetyl-rich butter. Due to a seeming aversion to producing diketone-heavy flavors by flavor manufacturers used for vaping these days, I started looking outside the normal channels for a butter flavor. I have found several with suitable ingredients (PG, water, flavor), but the two I have actually tried (Watkins from walmart, and one other brand I forget) are far too watery, and not nearly concentrated enough to warrant use in e-juice.

So, my question is, do any of you know of a PG based flavoring, preferably butter flavor, that contains D/A/AP, doesn't have a bunch of dyes and preservatives, and is concentrated enough to use realistically? Also, what else is known to have the most diketones, as far as currently available flavorings go?

Comments

9 points

by ID10-Tover 9 years ago

http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1014611.html#tosupp

Scroll down to suppliers, you can buy straight diacetyl.

3 points

by cooperCollinsover 9 years ago

Wow, noice. I always wondered how /u/abdada got his hands on pure D.

Have you purchased from the link you posted? Any recommendation on good D supplier from the list?

2 points

by ID10-Tover 9 years ago

Nah. Love me some CAP VC V1 and other buttery, creamy flavors, but I don't have much interest in vaping just diacetyl or adding extra diacetyl to things. But apparently OP does, so lets tell him where to get some, pop some microwave popcorn, and see what happens.

2 points

by cooperCollinsover 9 years ago

I like the cut of your jib.

Corn is popped and eagerly awaiting results.

4 points

by eVapouratedAUover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Forget the whole diketone argument.. I'll never understand why people enjoy butter flavoured vapour o.O

5 points

by Hydroxus_over 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

It's not really a butter flavor like eating a bowl full of butter, it's more like a creamy heavy think mouth feely dense sort of flavor. Haha

2 points

by surfishermanover 9 years ago

The butter flavorings make me sick lol.

3 points

by suicide_noochover 9 years ago

I'd say Capella NY cheesecake. I don't even know if they make a V2 version, but just in case, buy V1.

This flavor should be named buttersauce with a side of butter.

1 points

by thedirtyprojectorover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Word of advise, it needs a steep of about a week before the buttery notes start to come out. Keep it around 4%, otherwise you might get an offputting taste of wet cardboard as many can attest.

3 points

by leapinglabratsover 9 years ago

TFA French Vanilla could be a candidate if you enjoy the butter flavor in CAP VC1 , I believe some brands of coconut top the lists in terms of diketones

3 points

by vigg-o-ramaover 9 years ago

only TFA French Vanilla DELUX has the diketones.. all other variants of french van made by TFA are diketone free!

Edit : and in rechecking, it does NOT have diacetyl, only Acetoin & Acetylpropionyl

1 points

by leapinglabratsover 9 years ago

Ah okay, I was just going by the taste :) Cheers for the correction!

1 points

by vigg-o-ramaover 9 years ago

just shows that you dont need the dikentones to make good creamy flavors ;)

2 points

by Paleone123over 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Butterscotch flavors always seem to top the list of D/AP containing flavors.

4 points

by avtomat5150over 9 years ago

That may explain why my ADV for the past several weeks has been a butterscotch custard.

2 points

by Vurveover 9 years agoVurve with the Swurve

All the Hangsen creams are loaded with diketones.

I can't prove it with an msds, but they all taste like over churned cream that's halfway to being butter.

1 points

by ajsam3over 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I have no proof but cap cake batter smells super buttery, like VC V1 on steroids. Maybe this is the diacetyl talking? Again, this is speculation.

1 points

by surfishermanover 9 years ago

The flavorings with diketones are like 70/30 , take your pic , it's hard to find flavors without them these days. If Capella's V1 isn't enough butter for you then your hopeless lol.

1 points

by Chrisdvr1over 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

TFA or LA butter it's all in the name

1 points

by SteepingTakesTimeover 9 years ago

FA Condensed Milk. Blegh.

1 points

by JuiceMunkehover 9 years ago

FA Butter. Opening up the bottle it smells exactly like melted butter. Even as low as 1 drop per 10 ml it adds buttery goodness to a recipe. Not sure of the amount but Flavour Art lists it as not for vaping because it contains "Diacetyl and/or related diketones".

1 points

by jacatroover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Healthcabin Caramel Butter