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Elderflower Flavorah first impressions (@3% will add 6% notes and conclusions)
submitted over 9 years ago by keed_spills

Elderflower Flavorah

Set up Kayfun V3 mini 2.5 coil @ 1.6Ω; cotton wick; 11.1W 60/40 6mg

Testing: Elderflower Flavorah @ 3% Aged: 3 days 6% aged 4 days

From the bottle: Smell of the concentrate itself is potent, bright, more an elderflower cordial.

Flavour description: At 3% Still the cordial, from the bottle smell and a faint smokiness, over a sweet tartness, reminiscent of green guava/DDT (yes, the insecticide, I like that smell) with a touch of mango skin aftertaste.

like the Elderflower itself that at a distance smells a bit musky & smokey but close-up is a intense, heady, sultry.

Even at 3% this intensity can taste like **an unidentifiable chemical spill, (what this is becomes clearer at 6%). This is not a slight on Flavorah, as those that have smelled Elderflower on a summer night will know that it can smell so strong that it makes you think it is a manmade concoction.

Therein lies the dilemma for someone trying to emulate a flavour to taste/smell “natural” when the source material flower naturally has a smell with “artificial” characteristics.

Updated 6% notes:

4 surprises:

  • It tastes more metallic (that metallic note was present at 3%, **couldn’t sense what it was at that percentage-described it as "an unidentifiable chemical spill)"

  • Sweeter.

  • Doesn’t taste so much like the cordial, more like the smell of the flowers .It also tastes a lot less complex than it did at 3% imagine that the green guava/mango skin, DDT have properly coalesced into one flavour.

  • The biggest surprise 2/3 tanks in is that i like it!, (could be Stockholm Syndrome) It’s been a hard flavour to describe.

Is it Elderflower? The strange thing is that as you’re vaping it at 6% the answer would be not really;

but the aftertaste & taste on lips is Elderflower, this makes me think there is sweet-spot percentage to be found, for those who want to achieve it.

You will have gathered, by now that this flavour is not for everyone. Not an "easy" flavour, even compared to other Floral flavours, which are not exactly mainstream.

Personally, I am interested in trying this with citrus and other bright flavours,

how that turns out remains to be seen.

Off-flavors: a hint of DDT (at 3%), metallic (at 6%).

Throat hit A standard Flavorah throat-hit (not much increase from 3 to 6%).

Uses

To be confirmed.

Pairings Citrus, Apple, and other bright flavours. To be confirmed.

NB Will edit this post when i get some conclusions.

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by skiddlzninjaover 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Mate, I did not understand a single thing in this entire "review."

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by keed_spillsover 9 years ago

"review." Yes, I thought "review." might be a bit of a strong word for what I wrote there, that's why I described it as "first impressions".

Out of the 5 new flavours of this Flavorah batch which was Elderflower, Macaroon, Mango, Pralines and Yakima Hopps;

Elderflower was, perhaps a bit of a challenge to describe.

I've seen some mango reviews out there now;

Elderflower, not so much!

tried the Elderflower yourself yet "mate" ?

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by skiddlzninjaover 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Yeah, it's not my cup of tea. As /u/queuetue put it,"it smells like exactly what I don't want my vape to be."

I'm more on the yakima hops hype train.

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by keed_spillsover 9 years ago

Now that is what you call a review!

looking forward to the yakima,

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by matthewkocandaover 9 years ago

Did you have a stroke while you wrote this out?

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by keed_spillsover 9 years ago

No, but I'm having a pull on the 6% mix ...I think ...

That stroke...

....is

coming..on.... ....now.

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by underdogadamover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Do you think this could be turned into something like St Germain or is this a bit too much like the flowers themselves.

Edit: as far as pairings, I'd look into St Germain cocktails, some great ones include cucumber, mint, or lime.

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by keed_spillsover 9 years ago

Yes, that's a very good suggestion,

this looks appealing:

"Apple is a natural pairing with St-Germain’s floral sweetness. Stick with those flavors plus club soda for a super-refreshing, low-octane brunch drink or spring sipper. Or add a splash of vodka, white rum or—our personal favorite—gin."

-not heard of the St-Germain drink before, should provide some interesting pointers.

the main pairings i've been mulling over are lemon, lime and orange blossom.

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by keed_spillsover 9 years ago

Now having tried it at 6% I can better answer the first part of your question. it appears to be more of the flower smell at 6% whereas at 3%, more cordial-like. I'm guessing you'd need to stick to around 3% or below.

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by eVapouratedAUover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Could you please elaborate upon or edit your abbreviations, e.g. "T.B.C" and "DDT"

Us common folk have no idea what that is or means haha

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by keed_spillsover 9 years ago

Will do

T.B.C. - to be confirmed

DDT, never knew this but it is actually dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane- ***that'***ll be why I only ever heard the abbreviation!

It is an insecticide that was banned in the States in '72 and in most sensible countries banned shortly thereafter.

I however, did not grow up in a sensible country so as a kid I used to see a DDT lorry spraying DDT all over my neighbourhood to try & kill off malaria carrying mosquitos.

I and all the kids in the area would run into the spray at the back of the lorry and breathe it in as it has a lovely pungent, acrid guava smell.

that was my first vaping experience (circa '72) & i've been chasing it ever since.

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by eVapouratedAUover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Haha! I now see why you used an abbreviation for DDT :P

I think I heard about that chemical being used a lot in India at some point.

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by keed_spillsover 9 years ago

bit of a mouthfull eh!

yes It was used in India from the 50s according to Wiki still being used there as of 2008

My encounters with DDT as a kid were in Rio (Brazil) however i'm sure I've smelled it in Athens (Greece) also. It is uncanny how much it smells like Guava. I am grateful to Flavorah for Pink Guava!

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by keed_spillsover 9 years ago

Added 6% tasting notes.

Edited for clarity.

Conclusions to follow.

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