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Hi. I see alltheflavors.com uses 1ml/1gram.
While Recipe Calculator, which i am using has this:
- 1ml vg = 1,249gram
- 1ml pg = 1,036gram
So, question being: is there some sort of standard for this? I guess my mixes will be somewhat off if recipes are created with 1ml=1gram?
And /u/enyawreklaw ? Perhaps this is something you could shed some light on in your videos or your magazine? :) I'd like to hear your take on this for your recipes and how you do it. Just because I mix allot of your recipes.
Edit: I'm a moron. Fixed typo's that didn't make sense.
Edit2: I guess batch size matters somewhat here, I usually mix in 30ml bottles.
Yes, it matters, but only in terms of relating recipes to other people as percentages by volume.
If you're just mixing for yourself, whatever difference those few milligrams of density difference makes will be consistent from batch to batch, and a complete non-issue. On 30mL batches, it's a very slight difference, and probably reasonable to ignore. I am not reasonable, and it bothers me.
If you use the All The Flavors android app, there is a setting to assume flavors have the density of PG (NOT the same thing as "use flavor-specific densites"). I'm hoping /u/queuetue brings this to the web app soon.
Yes I saw this, atm I am just struggling with All The Flavors and just poking around really. Recipe Calculator suits all my needs tbh, and I can keep inventory/cost up to date to please my own curiosity. But I'm always curious about new things and poking around, which made me question this. I know it would be a very slight difference, or well, with potent stuff like inw/fa, it could probably throw me quite off. So I'm just curious what people generally use, so I can get my batches of other people's recipes more correct. Haven't had too much time to create my own thing just yet.
I think it's safe to say that most of us DIYers set the weight of our flavors to 1 to make things much easier for all of us. I remember when I first started DIYing, I was so caught up in trying to find specific gravity for each individual flavor...which was so time consuming. Not to mention some flavor companies don't have the tech sheets or technical info like that easily available. So every since I caught wind that many do this, I followed suit. And any recipe I've mixed from other DIYers tastes just as the recipe is described.
Not really sure where to start as far as flavoring goes. I don't think I've ever once in my two years of vaping have found a vape I could say was an "All Day Vape". I guess all the flavors I had ever tried I was just sort of... content with.
All my creamy flavours seem to be steeping to an artificial tasting mess. They start off great as shake & vape, but after a few days have a chemical undertone to them.
Anybody know what might be causing this?
The flavors you used would be extremely helpful here. ;)
Sure thing. Here's the ones I've been using when having the issue.
(FA) Cookie (FA) Meringue 10% Ethyl Maltol (TPA) Bavarian Cream (TPA) Blueberry Graham Cracker (Clear) (TPA) Greek Yogurt (TPA) Raspberry v2 (Cap) Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA) Sweet Cream (TPA) Vanilla Bean Gelato (TPA) Vanilla Swirl (TPA)
I'm getting a kit that's gonna make about a litre of juice, and I'm getting 10 flavors. Would 10 different flavors be a good idea or do I double up on some flavors I know I'll use more of?
Just my two cents here. Don't get a kit. Buy everything separate. Don't get 10 random flavors. Pick 3 highly rated recipes that match the flavor profile you prefer and buy the flavors necessary for those recipes. Once you do that, you will have a decent amount of flavorings to start off with and it will help you know which flavors you'd prefer to pick up later down the line.
LiquidBarn kit? Check out the top link under "LiquidBarn kit review" on YouTube. He kind of goes through which ones taste like they're supposed to and which don't, really helped me lick mine out. You could also order them individually like someone else suggested, but it's kind of hard to pick from the list in the sidebar currently since most of them are similar flavors or don't go together.
Is there a place where I can input all my available concentrates and I get back a list of recipes that I can make? Every time I look at the recipe threads I find there are always 1-2 flavors that I am missing and I don't want to go out of my way just to purchase a couple flavors.
E liquid recipes and all the flavors are both websites you can use for this.
~~I can't seem to find the section on either site that actually let's you type in what you have and lists what you can make...sorry if it's a pain in the ass but could you link me to either one?~~
Never mind, got it under control now. Just click on the vendors thing next to the search function and choose whatever you have.
I have a question about TFA Dulce de Leche. I recently ordered some, sampled it standalone at 5%, but it tastes like straight chocolate with a hint of creaminess. Is it possible my undisclosed vendor accidentally gave me TFA Double Chocolate (clear) or something alphabetically right next to it?
It's just that from what I've read, Dulce de Leche is really creamy and milky with maybe a hint of caramel, but nobody has described the taste to have chocolate.
Hey, I'm looking for a sweet chocolate flavor that goes well with Banana Cream (TFA) and can't decide which one I should get. The impression I got during my research is that there isn't really a chocolate flavor that everybody likes and the opinions are pretty divided.
So far my two favorites are Double Chocolate (TFA) and Choc Fudge Brownie v2 (CAP).
I'd be grateful for any recommendations.
I second that suggestion for MF, every MF flavor I have is spot on.. Probably because they're completely natural.
Is there a calculator where I can input the weight of the ingredients and the size of the batch and it will tell me what percentage of each flavor is? I often make up recipes on the spot, without percentages, and it would be nice to "reverse engineer" the recipe easily.
Just do the math. If you're using the standard 1 mL = 1 gram and you mixed up a 30mL batch then every 0.3 grams (or 0.3 mL) of an ingredient used is 1%. 0.6 grams (or 0.6 mL) = 2% for a 30mL batch. For a 60mL batch 0.6 grams (or 0.6 mL) = 1%
You should really use a calculator to save your recipes or at least write them down. One day you'll make something amazing and never be able to recreate it if you never write down or save exactly what you did.
TFA coconut extra.. does anyone use this and like it? I have tried with it as low as 0.5 percent and it still seems to make anything I'm mixing taste gross. Just wondering if it's just me. I lack any other coconut flavor to compare it to.. will try to find some others to try with my next order. Suggestions??
One drop in a bottle and I taste it. Gave that sucker away. I don't always vape Coconut, but when I do I like Capellas. At 1% it def adds a creamy feel without lending much actual coconut. 2% and I start to taste it, but it's not at all offensive like Xtra.
You might try diluting it. I have TFA Coconut (not extra) and use it and like it in moderation. As best I can tell from reading, it the extra version is similar but like twice to three times as strong. So if I get a suntan lotion taste from TFA Coconut at more than 1%, I don't think I'd use Extra at more than 0.4%.
What are you looking for in a coconut flavor? Coconut-flavored snow cone syrup, coconut cream, coconut milk, coconut water, fresh coconut flesh, dried coconut flakes, or the coconut filling in a Mounds bar?
Suntan lotion definitely describes the flavor it gives! I am looking for like a creamy coconut flavoring.. something to make a coconut cream pie flavored juice with specifically. I also would like a coconut that could be used with fruits.. like a pineapple/coconut mix or in addition to tropical fruits. Seems like coconut extra just won't work out for either of these uses.
FA's Coconut tastes good. But it's not creamy, more of dry coconut flesh/coconut flakes flavor. But you can easily mix it with something else that's creamy for that creamy coconut you crave.
INW Coconut is like watered-down coconut milk. Not creamy. It's a new addition for me and I haven't mixed it with anything yet.
TFA Coconut Candy can be very useful as a creamy coconut flavor but it gets weird at a fairly low %, I probably wouldn't recommend that one for you.
If it's a pineapple/coconut flavor you're want to make, INW Pinacolada is both in one and tastes good and also tastes like it would mix well with either fruits or creams.
I've heard lots of good things about FLV's Coconut and Sweet Coconut flavors, as well as some good things about CAP Coconut, but haven't tried any of those. Good luck finding the right coconut flavor for you.
This question was prolly asked before but I didn't find it when I searched. I understand that Cap VC1 needs a good week or 4 to steep properly, but if I am only adding it at 1% to add some mouthfeel or heaviness to an already pretty good recipe, does it still need a long steep to achieve those results? I feel like at 1% it wont change the flavor profile too much (if at all). Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Just a general rule of thumb that you can follow is that if you have an ingredient in a recipe (like CAP VC1) that you know requires a long steep, that's how long you should steep your recipe for despite the percentage used. Now, is this always the case? No. Best bet is to mix the recipe up, taste it, let it steep for a week, taste it, evaluate where it's at, then either call it good or steep it longer.
My question is are there any other flavor vendors besides Gremlin that will ship their flavors in dropper bottles?
I have only purchased flavors from Wizard Labs and Gremlin. I really love the fact that Gremlin ships their flavors in dropper bottles rather than the capped vials/bottles from Wizard Labs. I would just exclusively buy from Gremlin because they're awesome,(Take paypal, fast shipping,reasonable prices) but there are a couple flavors I would like to add to my stash that they do not carry. Any suggestions?
Edit: Removed a period. Also wanted to add that there is nothing wrong with Wizard Labs. They're an awesome resource, I just would like to remove pipettes from my life, or at least take the number down a bit.
BCV is the only one I use. Just like gremlin but with a wider selection.
Hey peeps, I need a math check real quick. I have 150ml of 100mg/ml Pg base. I would like to dilute and store at 50mg/ml using 60ml bottles. So I would need to add 30ml of the 100mg nicotine base and 30 ml of pg giving me a total number of 5 60ml bottles of 50mg base. Is this correct?
Yes. Just be sure to shake well before and after. And I would fill to the brim to minimize exposure to oxygen.
Alright thanks bud. I'll get it done tomorrow.
Or buy some argon spray to keep oxygen out.
Aright fam, here's the deal.
I have all of the equipment type stuff from the Liquid Barn kit, but I'm running kind of low. What I'm looking for here is a good way to get a list of stuff to order that are easily interminable with each other, rather than have some specific lemon flavor I will only use when making one flavor.
I don't really know the right way to ask this sort of question as I haven't really seen it been asked before, so basically I was hoping you guys could just recommend a bunch of flavors that go well together and can be used to make a lot of different recipes.
I've been digging cereal, fruity, and dessert vapes. I don't really fuck with tobacco or drink vapes for the most part, although I'd welcome lemonade and tea type vapes fersure.
Thanks for the help, I will pass such information on to other noobs some day as well!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/first_order_flavors
List is old, but most of those are versatile flavors that can be used to make many different things. If I could, I'd add TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream and CAP Sugar Cookie to the list and remove CAP Super Sweet.
is this vegetable glycerin form germany safe ?
http://www.glaconchemie.de/en/products/biogenic-glycerin/glycamed-997
im adding it to my e-liquid's that are 50/50 pg/vg making them 25/75 pg/vg diluting 1 bottle of 10ml to 2
How should i go about testing TFA Sweetener and TFA Acetyl Pyrazine? Should i include another flavor in the testing or do i single flavor test it?
Single flavor testing for sure. In mixes use either one at 1% or less. Especially AP. It is a great additive to have for desserts/bakery, however it needs a week min to really start settling down and blend in. I prefer it after at least 2 weeks, and I mix pg heavy!
I usually forgo sweetener, however some juices do benefit greatly from a tiny amount. Sweeten to your own tastes, but even a tiny amount (.25%) can make a big difference. And remember the more you use, the faster your coils get gunked!
I prob said more than you were looking for, but I hope this helps.
I meant to add that sweetener requires no steep, while AP does. Taste after week 1, then again after week two.
Thank you for the great response! I was expecting alot less haha. Anyways, if im not mistaken you mean i should test AP and sweetener by themselves at roughly 1% correct?
Correct. Sweetener is more flexible, but AP is strong! Can start tasting like corn chips, but in a bad way. Do try it after a couple weeks steep too, you can see how much it calms down.
If you want to see a couple great ways to use AP, go to diyordievaping.com and look up Cereal Milks and Rhodonite. 2 great recipes that wouldnt be close to the same without it.