Assistance in getting medicine flower flavors to stay put

submitted over 9 years ago by Tabboo

I'm at my wits end. I love MF flavors, but fucking hell they hate staying put. I've tried diluting them in VG, PG, water...every time they rise to the top. It makes them impossible to work with. I'll make a batch of something only to have all the MF sitting on top the very next day. I've stopped short of trying to create an emulsification - like a salad dressing - because shit don't work like that. I'm at a loss.

Any ideas?

Comments

4 points

by joesphaaover 9 years ago

Triethyl citrate can help emulsify (dilute and use sparingly), up the PG/VG ratio a little bit if you aren't set on max VG. Posting a recipe would help assess as well, I don't usually have issues with their flavors.

2 points

by Tabbooover 9 years ago

Thanks I'll look into it! Any recommendations on where to get that stuff?

2 points

by joesphaaover 9 years ago

https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-8068-triethyl-citrate-natural.aspx?keyword=triethyl%20citrate

1 points

by Tabbooover 9 years ago

well TIL....

3 points

by wonnernausover 9 years ago

No help here, but very interested because I was planning to try them. But now you have me wondering...

2 points

by wh1skeyk1ngover 9 years ago

What ratios are you diluting them at? I've read some of them need up to 10:1 dilution.

I would maybe recommend a milk frother, but I don't want anyone to stone me for using one. (It works well for me though)

2 points

by Tabbooover 9 years ago

diluting @ 5:1, but I'm not sure if a 10:1 would help.

5 points

by grant_hatcherover 9 years ago

Calling /u/vapourdepot.

These guys sell diluted MF as a rebranded concentrate, maybe they can help.

3 points

by tranceinateover 9 years agoIn a good mood for now - don't piss me off.

Or y'know, just call the mystical /u/abdada

2 points

by overachieverover 9 years ago

The BOTANIC ELIXIR ones?

2 points

by rhysthomas77over 9 years ago

I have heard using peg400 stops it from separating

1 points

by shrine399over 9 years agoMixologist

Very strange. I've been delving deep into their flavorings the past few days and haven't noticed any separation at all. Mostly been messing with vanilla, caramel, butterscotch, strawberry, and blueberry. No separation yet.

0 points

by engmiaover 9 years ago

I'm not familiar with this particular brand, are they vape specific products?

Just to make sure, are you sure the liquids aren't containing any oils?

Personally from the other multiple sources I've read I would avoid vaping something containing essential oils, we have plenty of other choices of flavourings. (Really don't see the case as any different than Diacetyl or AP) And one of the ways to test if the flavouring has any oils in it, was that it was separating to the top.

3 points

by Tabbooover 9 years ago

Although they do sell oils, these are not.

http://www.medicineflower.com/flavorextracts.html