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Lets talk about TPA Pineapple and harshness
submitted over 9 years ago by KrillinGetsOwned

So, once again i am faced with a dilemma. To me TPA Pineapple is the best pineapple out there. Period. All others I've tried (a LOT of them) are either meh, or straight up taste like burnt rubber and rotted fruit. However, there is always a "but".

As is, i find tpa pineapple optimal flavor to be around 4%. Here you get a juicy, sour, tangy pineapple that i am looking for. And here is the "but" part. It fucks with my throat like nobody's business. It's a weird feeling, sort of tingly and scratchy and harsh. I find it to have the same effect even in small quantities, even 1.5%.

I am gutted. I simply can't find another pineapple that could stand up to it flavor-wise, have the same flavor qualities i am looking for, and also i can't use it because of the unbearable throat-hit. Have you had same experiences? Does anyone have an explanation for this?

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by ID10-Tover 9 years ago

Burnt rubber and rotted fruit - Ah, I see you've tried FA Pineapple, too. That stuff tastes like a moldy old pineapple came to life Frosty-the-Snowman-style, gorged itself on green onions, and then got run over by my ex-wife driving my truck that she stole in the divorce. Except that instead of plowing straight though it at 7000 rpms like she did my net worth, she slammed on the brakes 50 feet from the abomination and skidded the tires bald on her way to turning it into a rotten pineapple-scallion roadkill smear. Like, what the fuck FA?!

But have you tried INW Pineapple? I get juicy, sour, tangy, perfect pineapple with the added bonuses of zero harshness, not steamrolling over everything you mix it with, and not tasting like pineapple candy if you over do it a little.

2 points
 
by wes1007over 9 years ago

Best description of a flavor I've seen..

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 9 years ago

Yeah, if only I could write good recipes as well as I write descriptions of bad flavors and mixing fails. Sigh.

2 points
 
by Bearwenover 9 years ago

Awesome description. I take it you feel the court system failed you. Hope they don't fail us with the FDA

ID10-T I haven't heard that in years what branch

2 points
 
by altneuroseover 9 years ago

There is something abysmal going on with that flavor. I remember it tasting fine to me until I read someone saying something about green onions. Then it immediately tasted like green onions and has ever since.

2 points
 
by loldatheover 9 years ago

I bought FA Pineapple to try a recipe, smelled it, threw it in the trash. I just can't.

2 points
 
by DrDoobie22over 9 years ago

FA Pineapple reminds me of trying to eat the hard middle core of a pineapple. It fucking kills me

2 points
 
by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

that is the most fantastically correct statement that i have seen in a long while :D FA pineapple is a weird bastard. I myself taste what you described, but on the other hand my wife thinks that it is one of the most accurate flavors out there. go figure. guess i should file a divorce :D

2 points
 
by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

Also, just saw that TPA now also offers Pineapple Juicy. Anyone have experience with that one?

8 points
 
by altneuroseover 9 years ago

That seems like a brand new or very unused flavor. Only thing I could find was 1 note on ELR: "not bad".

If you compare the volatiles, it's very different, has a lot of vanilla:

Pineapple

Pineapple juicy

The both have a good amount of Ethyl caproate and Hexanoate/Heptanoate so the main pineapple note should be somewhat the same, only differently balanced. The amount of vanilla is weird though.

The Ethyl butyrate from Pineapple (>= 10% and < 50%) has been taken down in Pineapple Juicy (>= 1% and < 5%), so that should save your throat some bit. Ethyl butyrate does not sit well for my lungs either.

edit: Part of the actual pineapple flavor, Ethyl caproate, is an irritant too. Source (in German). It seems to be lowered a bit in juicy version. (>=1% and <10%) to (>=1% and <5%)

edit2: PS. fuck TPA for inconsistent volatile names in different products.
142-19-8 = Heptanoate (Pineapple) / Hexanoate (Pineapple juicy)
105-54-4 = Ethyl butyrate (Pineapple) / Butanoic acid, ethyl ester (Pineapple juicy)

6 points
 
by Vurveover 9 years agoVurve with the Swurve

Good job padawan. Abdada should be proud

1 points
 
by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

wow, did not expect a so in-depth answer. thanks a lot man! Just ordered a bottle, will test it out. hopefully it will solve the problem without changing the flavor a whole bunch

1 points
 
by altneuroseover 9 years ago

Remember to report back, maybe make a post with comparing flavor notes - especially if no one with any flavor notes appears in this thread. It seems that no one has mentioned that flavor here or on ELR (save for that one comment) before.

2 points
 
by vapingrammyover 9 years agoIn a good mood for now - don't piss me off.

Pineapple, mostly tpa, makes me cough violently on the exhale. Which would be ok but for one thing.

Any of you older mothers with multiple children haven any idea what I'm referring to? Lmao?

Edit: can't type

1 points
 
by baseballmom13over 9 years ago

Lol, I get it!

1 points
 
by vapingrammyover 9 years agoIn a good mood for now - don't piss me off.

Lol it sucks!

2 points
 
by Wo0d643over 9 years ago

Anything with any pineapple at all just smells like nasty, sweaty feet to me.

2 points
 
by DanKitchover 9 years ago

TPA Pineapple is my favorite pineapple. I agree with others. When you get the pineapple juicy, please do a flavor comparison. I hope it has the juicy pineapple has the taste you are looking for without the harshness.

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by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

man i really hope so too. will definitely do a comparison

1 points
 
by altneuroseover 9 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/3ebr3o/tfa_pineapple/ctdwj0n
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/2l78nj/alternatives_to_tfa_pineapple/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/1tnglp/pineapple_from_tfa_making_anyone_else_cough/

1 points
 
by KITTENKRUSHAover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

im glad to see that im not the only one with this experience involving pineapple, pls report back op!

1 points
 
by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

Will do. super gutted about that flavor though. I so want it to work but it seems my pleb lungs can't handle it

1 points
 
by OfBlinkingThingsover 9 years ago

I've been Vaping 4+ years. In all that time I've only had one pineapple juice that didn't feel like federal prison throat rape. It's a shame because most were tasty.

1 points
 
by loldatheover 9 years ago

2% CAP Golden Pineapple + 1% TFA Pineapple was good for me. I agree on the harshness of TFA Pineapple., but the flavor is still there for me at lower percentages, I add the CAP Golden Pineapple for a boost. You could try 0.5% TFA + 2,5% CAP?

1 points
 
by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

Cap pineapple is alright, it is one of the few that doesn't have an off-taste. However to me it's super week, gets bogged down by other flavors and just doesn't have the bite i'm looking for

1 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngover 9 years ago

I mix CAP Golden Pineapple 2:1 with INW Pineapple. It makes a beautiful rounded pineapple flavor. I've never used over 2% and 1% because its strong enough for me at those percentages.

1 points
 
by ajsam3over 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Maybe it's just too strong, have you considered a dilution?

1 points
 
by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

I don't think that that's the problem. It isn't the flavor intensity that's getting to me, it's something else

1 points
 
by SuspendedInTheAirover 9 years agoPâtissier

I just put 1.5% of it in a mix last week (pineapple, banana cream, mango, orange mandarin)....thought i used waaaay to much at first but after about 5-6 days it drastically mellowed out and I really enjoyed the mix.

1 points
 
by OverInfinityover 9 years ago

OK just to clear some things out.

1)Do you experience itching around ears, lips, tongue or throat?

  1. Any swelling even just a little anywhere on your torso or facial regions?
1 points
 
by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

No, i do not have a pineapple allergy. nor any other as far a s i'm aware of

1 points
 
by OverInfinityover 9 years ago

Sorry, I just had to be sure.

1 points
 
by RinVapesover 9 years ago

I feel the same way. I like no other pineapple flavoring that I've tried to date... and TFA Pineapple is a bit harsh. Vaping at max VG tends to help with throat irritation. I imagine the irritation is caused by high acidity or whatever quality it has that eats through plastic.

1 points
 
by drhappycatover 9 years ago

There was some very positive discussion of HS Pineapple and CAP Golden Pineapple a couple of nights back. I ordered both based on the enthusiasm. /u/KrillinGetsOwned have you tried either of those?

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by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

Yeah i use CAP Golden Pineapple quite a lot actually. To me it has a really weak flavor, but i use it to accentuate the other fruits more then anything. Haven't really tried any of the HS flavors. I hear they'r good, but the availability is a bit of an issue for me (EU)

1 points
 
by psykiover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

INW Pineapple is freaking delicious! And it works at 5-10%. Trust me. I had been working on a pineapple vape using INW Pineapple for a long time and then tried TFA Pineapple on the recommendation of someone else here. Can't stand the TFA version, it's got a very unpleasant "bite" to it as you mentioned.

Seriously, INW Pineapple takes on whole new dimensions when you mix it at 2%, 5%, and even up to 8%. Not only does it work at those percentages but it takes on whole new flavors.

1 points
 
by KrillinGetsOwnedover 9 years ago

Tried it on multiple occasions, did not care for it. To me it had a very unpleasant rotting smell. But to each their own :D It seams that for some reason i really can't process all pineapple flavors.

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