Are there any liquids you still buy? I only mix myself and some liquids are good others are bad, but i am not sure what i am missing. I see all this fancy liquids on youtube and sometimes i am temped to buy a liquid just to try it how it compares against my liquids.
80% of the juice out there today is complete hype. The companies spend more money on advertising (and sucralose) than actual R&D for their line. There are definitely gems out there that push the boundaries of what a great e-liquid can be, but they're few and far between. I'll buy commercial juice maybe once a month just to get an idea for a different profile when I'm having a mixer's block. Other than that, I try not to fall for the hype. I would advise you to do the same.
100% agree.
Everything that the owner of my shop gets in recently are hype juices with marketing pushes. They're all crap, and something based on strawberry.
I vape two brands of e-liquid we carry in house (Adirondack & Crew Juice) but all the others are so bleh.
What's even funnier, is I just checked our "squidoode doode juice" and their marketing thing is now "$18 for a 30ml of juice is pushing the boundary of premium e-liquid." LOL bro, I get stuff from other vendors for way cheaper thats better than the crap your hocking. Go back to your $20/pair of fused claptons.
Occasionally, but it's more for the purpose of supporting a vendor I like than getting something to vape. If I get totally stumped by a recipe, I just sample vendor juices with a similar profile and try to puzzle it out.
Buying juice instead of ingredients feels weird, now.
I look at the price of a 30ml. "premium" juice and think to myself, I could instead spend that same amount on 6 or 7 new flavors to try. Or a couple bigger bottles of my favorite ADV flavors and be set for another month or two. It's really a no brainer for me. I just received my 4th order from BCV and this was the first one to qualify for free shipping. (Problem? What problem? I can stop whenever I want! :/) 30 new flavors to begin testing on will keep my excitement/interest far longer than the equivalent value of maybe 4 bottles of average, or at best, good quality B&M juice will. Even with my ever growing, yet always lacking, library of flavors (thanks to you glorious, bastard mixers out there) I'm still spending less than I would of on my long forgotten tobacco habit.
As a mixer who is at an intermediate level, no I do not. Even at the beginner level, I knew my mixes were better than premium. I do accept donations from my premium juice purchasing friends who don't care for them, and typically spruce them up with <2% added flavoring making them vapable, and sometimes giving them back to the contributor after adding that small amount of flavor. No negative feedback as of yet. I haven't even purchased budget juice since I started mixing my own.
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I only buy ejuice when I have a severe case of mixer's block or am just bored with the 5 DIY juices in my rotation. I'm a huge fan of B-X and Adirondack. If only I could nail down Horchatatas and Placid, I'd truly be in bliss.
That being said, I probably only order a 30ml every other month to break up my juice rotation and get some new profiles. I don't go to B&M's anymore and I don't buy into hype surrounding certain flavors as the juices I have in my rotation keep me fairly entertained.
SHURB clone by /u/captaincannibal
Placid clone by /u/fizzmustard
Gush Clone (minus the sucralose) by /u/NotCharlesManson
Holy Cannoli! by /u/joesphaa
Unfortunately, I can't give away my Number 5 as I'm still working on it and don't feel comfortable giving out a recipe that I don't feel is 100% there yet.
Not really but 1 exception. I go to B&Ms for inspiration. Mentally note combos I like and usually buy the best one of the bunch I try if the person letting me sample doesn't get annoyed by my sampling madness. Of course buying them isn't required but I like to support the good places. With that being said, I buy 3-4 30 ml a year
Tip: if you do this bring a regular drip tip not a wide bore.
I generally only vape my own, but now and then I do swap flavors with other companies. I just got a bottle of Birch Beer from Keystone. Kinda like root beer but with it's own flavor. Just one of those flavors I like. There are a few flavors over at Coval that I don't turn down either!. Ya, you can make your own, but it's a nice treat every now and then.
You need to try the real deal birch beer. I don't like soda, but I'll drink birch beer.
http://www.daretogodutch.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=BB
I personally prefer the bottles
I'm on it, I'll be ordering some today. Their site is unsecured and shipping options aren't available, so it will be via a phone order, but I want some! Going to try the Orange too. Thank you!
Pennsylvania Dutch Birch Beer is my bae. I have yet to try a birch beer juice but probably because I havent tried a soda juice Ive liked yet.
Two friends of mine recently opened both their pub/vapeshop combo, and I've gotten some 'premium juice' samples, and got to try pretty much every juice they sell. Some nice and some less nice stuff, but it's pretty much the same with trying DIY recipes. And while spending considerably less money I get to extend my flavor collection. On top of that I don't have to worry that my tanks are consuming liquid like a jumbo jet with the airflow wide open/ All while having the satisfaction of the hobby aspect of DIY.
So to answer your question, absolutely not.
> pub/vapeshop combo
I'd never leave.
It's a winner. The first one already had a good running Irish-style pub with over 100 Belgian beers, and a few years ago he invested in a dedicated smoking area (basically a big glass cage like you used to see on the airports) since cigs got banned in pubs a while back. He has now changed that into a vaping area and is selling starter kits along with e-juice, without really knowing much about vaping. It's beyond my imagination how many local people have turned to vaping in less than 1,5 month.
The other one is mainly focused on vaping, but he also offers drinks with comfy seats and a bar. Your typical lounge setup.
not really. i bought cold press when it dropped, before that i bought some lenola cream back in december (mostly as a gift to my gf, but got me some too). before that, i think it was artifact when it went live.
it was artifact when it went live
This. The last juice I bought. Now I need me some Buckland. I gave up on making something even close to it. /u/fizzmustard must practice magic.....
The only juice I've purchased in the last year and a half is Kiss the Ring. (I order 2 x 120ml's every few weeks). I've gone to a few B&M's and tested almost all the popular juice that's out and find I can make way better juice in my kitchen for pennies. I will continue to support /u/bombies because KTR is fantastic and he is a great supporter of the DIY community.
I keep meaning to, to support other mixers, but I just don't. I mean, I've never had Lenola Cream, never tried any Bombies, none of that. I went from buying B&M juice (that honestly I could replicate by either the name or the flavor profile, TFA + sweetener) to buying Vape Wild (same deal) to DIY and making better juice than either of those options within two weeks/month. So every once in a while I want to either support or buy into the hype, but then I look at the half a liter of various mixes sitting on my shelf and I never get around to it.
I bought a bottle of Bombies Kiss the Ring about a month ago. It is the only juice I've bought in well over a year. I did so because it's such an intriguing and complex flavor with nuance, one that no one has been able to clone at least that I can find. I ordered some back when Bombies was one guy who you had to wait for him to take orders, it was the first juice that showed me vaping didn't have to taste just okay, that it could be delicious. It tasted exactly like I remembered.
The next day I left it in my pants pocket and it went through the wash. I had to throw it away because all I could taste was detergent.
Such is life.
Like most of the people here, I buy juices very rarely. I have a particular juice or two that I haven't replicated and purchase once in a while. I'll also get something completely different from what I make to try out and see how it tastes. I like to vape at a very low nicotine level so it's far more practical for me to make my own than buy multiple bottles to mix to my desired level (usually 1mg.)
That said, I've been ridiculously busy lately and just don't have the time to mix like I would prefer. Finals are killing me at the moment. I usually like to sit down for 2-3 hours and mix every couple of weeks, but it's just not been an option for the last month or two. So if there is a great sale or something, I'll buy some juice to have sitting around.
There is nothing wrong with making your own juice and wanting to try other flavors. It's hard to find something that really warrants your money, but it's good to support some small businesses too.
the only people to get me to buy their juice since I started diy have been /u/inertiacreeping (if you have a chance to try his juice, go for it. he's crazy good) and Savv from outerworld. other than that, I just make my own and kind of forget that other juice exists.
I love the juice I make, but there is one that I can not get right. Its called Pixy by Time Bomb. Something about it I just love and I still buy it, but only like a couple of 15mls a year.
The one main liquid I keep buying is Moon Mountain Aurora 4, it is a seasonal liquid that is "A triple layered Vanilla cookie glazed in shamrock cream" I've purchased every version of mint out there and I still cannot get this damn flavor figured out. I've ordered 360ml of it since it came out this year haha!
ELR jizzes their pants over watermelon crack and horchatatas by bx vapor, i decided i was gonna clone them to help people transition to diy and i had a coupon.. theyre both unvapable. Less than 5mls in i had to stop despite an earnest desire to keep going.
DIY's the way forward for me, i'm clumsy and forgetful, the amount of times i've left a bottle of juice behind somewhere or left a device just tilted enough to let all the juice run out is unreal, if i was on premium that's another £15 to replace that 30ml bottle i've just wasted or it's £0.40 to make another 30ml.
Haven't bought ready made in a loooong time
I started DIY because I kept getting inconsistent orders. When I make my own, I know it won't be off. That alone actually ends up making it better than 80% of juice out there. The only juice I might still order is Placid because I haven't found the perfect clone yet and because I've never had a bad order.
I have a couple flavors I still like to buy just because they're so good. Cosmic Fog's Milk & Honey, The Schwartz's Upside, Centerfold's Sammie, and Boosted by Boosted E-juice.
Other than that I stick to my own blends or whatever I get from friends or win online. I don't make very complicated recipes, I keep them simple and cheap!
Once a month I buy a juice I havent tried before from a vendor that gets a lot of reddit love. Last month was Placid and the lime bite is finally fading after a few week steep. Next up is probably Bigglesworth. For me, its nice to try a change up and support a company that isnt trying to make a quick buck with a trash marketing strategy. Especially when those times come that I have mixers block. Now that Ive tried Placid, I can compare the clones to it as I know it has a few clone recipes that people really dig.