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Essential Depot new Soy Derived VG?
submitted over 9 years ago by loldathe

Yesterday while mixing a hefty batch of juice, I noticed that my most recent gallons of VG from Essential Depot now said "Palm Derived" on them.

Yesterday while going on their website to re-up on VG, I noticed on their front page that the normal $39 cubes are now labeled "Palm Derived" they now have "Soy Derived" for $36 per cube with quantity discounts.

Does anyone have experience with Soy Derived VG over Palm? I think I've seen /u/abdada mention that he uses specifically Palm Derived stuff, but never heard anything about the Soy variant.

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by vapingatfiftyover 9 years ago

Soy is sustainable, palm is not.

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by BlueDotVaporsover 9 years ago

A common misconception is that the palm industry is the cause for deforestation and habitat destruction when the real problem lies with an impoverished community that depends on farming for income. If palm wasn't being grown there then it would be soy or some other oil crop. Considering palm is by and large the largest producer of oil per acre, it is likely the most efficient and therefore sustainable crop to grow. Address the economic disparity and you solve the problem.

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by snakefinnover 9 years ago

I'm curious to try it. If it doesn't taste super weird I might just switch. I like the idea of my VG being sustainable. I want to make less of an impact with my hobby

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by mourningshadowover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Don't use the soy stuff unless you want to grow breasts. Unless you're a woman, then go for it.

In seriousness though, while I have heard some negative things about soy derived VG I can't say if it's any better or worse in any way to Palm Derived. I am pretty sure though that any aversion or allergies to soy will be an issue with soy derived VG so keep that in mind.

I'm sure someone with more knowledge on the subject will chime in shortly.

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by tranceinateover 9 years agoIn a good mood for now - don't piss me off.

Derived from soy =/= contains allergy causing soy proteins

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by BlueDotVaporsover 9 years ago

Palm based interacts with nicotine best during the oxidation process. If you want more info, talk to Brian Baker at Carolina Xtracts, he can go into more detail.

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by 3423553453over 9 years ago

Is that the nicotine you use at BlueDot's, Supercritical nic ? I always wondered why no vendors were bragging about that, seems like a major selling point.

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by Tabbooover 9 years ago

Oh we tell everyone every chance we get. Did you know we use Carolina Xtract? We do! Other companies don't because they're cheap bastards!

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by BlueDotVaporsover 9 years ago

Yes, we use Carolina Xtracts SFE nicotine that is packed, stored & dispensed via nitrogen for the freshest possible experience.

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by mourningshadowover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Just in case, I was kidding about the breast comment. Old joke going back to soy causing estrogen imbalance in men, which is crap. Guess I was the only one who found it funny.

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by Paleone123over 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

When they say VG is USP and therefore 99.7% pure or whatever, I always assumed that remaining percentage was water or something equally innocuous, but if it matters what it's dereived from there must be some other "stuff". Anyone know what that "stuff" is?

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by Deluxeejuiceover 9 years ago

From essential depot website: The 0.3% remainder is usually water as glycerin readily absorbs moisture from the air which is difficult to completely remove during the distillation process. There is no residue of the original feedstock in the Vegetable Glycerin Essential Depot provides according to the specifications from the two major manufacturers from which Essential Depot purchases its Vegetable Glycerin. That is not to say that someone who is allergic to SOY or PALM based products can safely use products made with Essential Depot Vegetable Glycerin. Essential Depot always recommends to test to ascertain if this Vegetable Glycerin will cause a reaction before it is used. Further, each manufacturer’s testing confirms no residue of any GMO components.

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by surfishermanover 9 years ago

Keep it simple , just say no.

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