The following wall of text is a review of the new All The Flavors web and android e-juice calculator application. I recently paid for one year of the All The Flavors Pro application and I thought I would highlight some of the things I like, some that I don’t, and some features that I wish the application would add. This is a walkthrough of features and review. Hopefully, this will be a resource for people thinking about whether they should spend the money on this app or not.
 

I have been mixing my own juice for over a year and a half and I have used several e-liquid mixing applications on windows and Android including E-Juice Lab on Android and Juice Calculator from the sidebar on windows (this is the main program that I use). I have been desperately searching for an application that would allow me to mix from my phone without having to type 150 plus ingredients into my phone. I do not have a computer by my mix station, and have been printing my recipes from my computer to mix. Which is fine except for when I then want to mix up something on the fly during a session and I have to walk over to my computer make up the recipe and print it out so that I can mix it. It sounded like All The Flavors might be the answer to my problem providing both a “desktop” and mobile experience. I am just a DIY juice guy who loves this community, even though I don’t post as much as I should. If there is anything I have missed or got completely wrong in this review please let me know.
 

I have split this review into two parts, the first looks at the web application. The second part examines the android application and the sync functionality.
 

Part 1 - The Web Application:
 

Firstly AllTheFlavors.com looks good. It is modern and sleek looking.
 

On AllTheFlavors.com, even without an signing up for an account or buying the app, I can view shared recipes and mix them. I simply choose a recipe that looks good and click on the recipe link and click the mix button. I can use the sliders to choose my nic base strength and ratio, target nic, PG/VG ratio and batch size and everything will show up calculated in grams, ml and drops. The site also allows me to sort the flavorings and bases in the list, by name or base and size. This quick mixing is a great feature if you want to make someone else’s recipe as fast as possible. Without registering I can also view and search for flavors, this is a very nice feature and returns results quickly. When I select an individual flavor I can see places to buy the flavor from with red and green circles indicating whether the flavor is in stock at that vendor or not. Clicking one of these links brings me directly to the specific flavor page on the vendor’s website. Very nice indeed! I can also see how many recipes the flavor is used in and the overall average flavoring percentage. If any public recipes use the flavor I can also see those as well, excellent! I signed up for the site using a google account, this is not my favorite way to authorize access to any website but fine, it is at least a quick sign up process. Once logged in I can then view my profile and set my public username on the site and see your active subscriptions. So how do I build my flavor library?
 

Building My Flavor Library
 

As someone who has over 150 flavors this is always the part that I dread about trying any new mixing application. All The Flavors makes this somewhat easy. By going to the flavor list now that I am logged in a nice check box appears next to all of the flavors in the searchable list, simply click the box and it is added to my flavor list. Also all of my flavors now appear at the top of this list in a nice bold font. That is easy! Almost too easy…here is the catch, if I want to add my cost basis for my flavors I have to go to the individual flavor page, which now that I am logged in, has a nice section where I can rate the flavor, put in a density if I want choose the stock level, and put in my cost info. Since I assume there would be issues with allowing a .csv import of flavorings. I wish there was a “Mass Add” flavor option where I could say, search by vendor(?) and retrieve all of the flavor results with columns for the ml, cost, and cost per ml. Input all of the information and then do a mass save. This would not only lower the barrier to moving to this platform but also would make inputting all of the new flavors from my giant GremlinDIY or BCV order that much easier and would put the application head and shoulders above any other application that I have tried for ease of ingredient loading. The stock level feature seems useless as I can only choose, high, normal, and low? I guess this is ok but if I choose low why not give me the option of automatically adding it to a list?
 

Flavor Lists
 

Speaking of lists, THE killer feature of All The Flavors is the list function. I can create a list and then add flavors to that list. Once I have finished adding flavors, when I view my list it shows all of the flavors in the list and the stock status of all of the flavors in the list at Wizard Labs, Ecig Express, BCV and Gremlin respectively. I think I just came on my keyboard as I typed this paragraph, the amount of times I have wasted in my DIY journey making a 30 flavor shopping list then going to my favorite vendor, getting to flavor 29 and running into the dreaded “Out Of Stock” then screaming FUCK at the top of my lungs scaring the cat and my wife is far too high. Problem solved. If you don’t want to use any of the other features that All The Flavors offers you WILL want to use this one. One disclaimer about this feature: since it only looks at 4 vendors if there is a super obscure flavor in your list that the vendors don’t carry, instead of showing the flavor as out of stock at the vendors, it won’t appear at all under the vendors. Hopefully, more vendors will be added in the future.
 

Recipes
 

The recipe function works solidly, it is easy to add flavors using the pop up search box and they don’t have to be flavors in your list. As a bonus feature I can add other users as editors on my recipe so that they can view it as well. I do wish that when I choose to add a flavor to my recipe it would come up with “my” list of flavors in the search box first and then I can search or scroll if I like instead of being forced to search. This really is just a personal preference because the search function is very fast, kudos to the coder. I can export my recipe to a “.ejuice” file. I can copy the recipe so that I can change percentages and rework a new version. I can also share the recipe on all the socials or copy the recipe to my computer clipboard in either text format or reddit format with proper markdown formatting included. If you are looking for more full featured functionality like being able to adjust the total flavor percentage of a recipe thereby changing all of the individual flavor percentages by the same ratio, or being able to find and replace a certain ingredient in all of your recipes, those are not here. However, in my opinion this is not a negative as most people will never use that type of functionality in an e-juice calculator. One function that All The Flavors does not have that I would love to see is the ability to “version” a recipe. So I can have one recipe name and then a list underneath showing each version of that same recipe, it would make my recipe collection so much neater! I hope someone can get a parent->child relationship between recipes to work in the future. Also, for some reason, I cannot figure out how to delete a recipe from the web application. Also, please note that to add more than 2 recipes you have to buy the pro subscription which will run $1.99/month or $14.88/year.
 

What Can I Make? and Batches
 

The “What Can I Make?” feature is very nice giving a list of all public and private recipes that you can make with your flavors. In addition, I can choose to see recipes that I can “almost” make if you have 1-4 additional flavors. It is easy to see what flavor I am missing on the recipe page because it will not show a check mark after the flavor name. Perfect.

The “My Batches” function from what I can tell works only in conjunction with the android app.
 

Looking at All The Flavors as just a standalone web application it is really solid. As a summary here are the pros and cons from my perspective.
   

Pros:
 

1. The list functionality with vendor stock levels for each flavor, OMFG its amazing!
2. Quick links to buy flavors from vendors!
3. Quick one click batch mixing of public recipes.
4. A huge and organized flavor library.
5. Very easy addition of flavors to stock if a user is not concerned about price/ml.
6. “What Can I Make?” Feature is solid.
7. Lots of recipe sharing options, including the ability to add other All The Flavors users as editors to my recipe
8. It looks good and executes quickly -- minimal and modern web design.
    

Cons:
 

1. Adding flavors with costs could be easier please add some sort of “Mass Flavor Add” functionality
2. Can’t adjust base (pg, vg ,nic) costs from the web application
3. Can’t delete recipes from the web application(?)
4. No cost calculation on the mixing screen(?)
5. (Not a con for everyone) No total flavor percent adjustment available
    

With the list functionality being All The Flavors’ trump card I am already almost sold on the $14.88 / year price tag but not quite. I want more for that money and more is just what All The Flavors is selling with their pro subscription. Mobile sync and a full android application.
 

Part 2 - The Android Application
 

First I would like to point out that the android application experience for a free user is very limited. There are only a few flavors that are available, although you can add your own. It does not sync with the web application and again you are limited to 2 recipes. I will be reviewing this application in the way that it is intended to be used which is as a premium paid for application.
 

The application looks clean and has simple icons for functionality no gaudy -made by a 12 year old- design with advertisements in my face here. I’m looking at you “E-liquid Calculator” for android. Also not present are different sized fonts on function buttons in white on black background and then underneath larger fonts in white on blue background cough E-Juice Lab cough. This app feels restrained, grown-up and it feels premium.
 

At the top right of the application I can log in using my google account credentials. If I have purchased the application logging in will then sync stored recipes as well as the database of flavors to my device. A lock symbol in the top right lets me know whether my premium subscription is active. I have noticed that often the symbol will change to a caution sign and if I press the icon it will give me an alert letting me know my subscription will expire, this will then go away and return to the lock symbol. I am unsure if this is because the authorization is running too often and if my data connection isn’t solid the application doesn’t know what to do or what the issue is but it is a thing.
 

Settings
 

Pressing the three dots in the upper right hand corner unsurprisingly gives me access to the settings menu. In this menu I can configure base costs of nic, pg and vg. I can also turn off or on random names, this function will assign random names to new recipes. The “Stay Awake” feature lives here that will leave the screen on when you are in the mixing screen. I recommend you turn this on before doing anything else in the app. I forgot to turn this setting on and was mixing, the screen kept shutting off and each time it does all the check marks on the batch mixing page will clear off (more on this in a minute). There are settings for flavor weights and whether the app should use specific flavor densities. In addition, I can set “Speed Buttons” for the mixing page so that I can one press the final batch volume. Again, I highly recommend you set these to your 4 most used batch sizes so maybe 10ml, 30ml, 60ml and 120ml. In the settings I can also backup my database or restore my database which when pressed told me “backup” successful although I don’t know where the backup file is located. I also have the option to backup my recipes to Dropbox which when pressed did absolutely nothing but I don’t have Dropbox installed on my phone so maybe that is the problem, although an error message would have been nice. Finally, there is “View Scale” and “Sync”. The application does not automatically sync with the web app except for the initial download of flavors so get used to pressing this option often. This is not a problem for me because I prefer this functionality to the application sucking my data when I am not watching.
 

The Scale
 

The scale functionality is listed as still being in beta, I am not a part of this beta so I cannot comment on how or if this functionality works. So instead I will put here how I hope it will work in the future. It would be amazing if the scale functionality worked in conjunction with the batch mixing function. If I could start mixing a batch of juice and then select a flavoring or base and then have the scale “count to zero” as I add flavor this app would be perfect. So for example if a recipe called for .75 grams of TFA Strawberry I would chose that flavor from the batch mixing page the scale would “tare” to -.75 and as I add flavoring, the scale would return to 0. If I don’t hit the mark exactly the actual weight of flavoring added is stored with the batch information and when I move to the next flavor the scale is “re-tare’d”

There are nice tabs along the top of the application for recipes, help and about. The help tab has some information about what the icons at the bottom of the screen do and there is also a button to “Learn About Mixing” that opens a web browser to the DIY OR DIE website. The about tab gives information on the version and recent changes to the application.
 

Recipes
 

On the recipes tab all of the recipes I have created are shown. I can search this list and filter it for created bases. A simple swipe to the right on a recipe will get me right to the batch mixing screen. A plus icon at the bottom of screen allows me to create a new recipe. Once pressed I can follow the tabs on the top to create my recipe, first putting in a name and description as well as a photo from either my camera or gallery. This function is a really nice touch. I can then add flavors by first choosing the vendor, then the flavor and entering the percentage. It definitely isn’t as quick as adding flavors on the web application but is a very good interface experience for a mobile juice app. Where are all of the shared recipes? Remember how awesome the quick mixing function was on the web app? Well it is here on mobile…sort of. If I press on the lock icon I am greeted with a very nice note thanking me for my support of the application and a link that opens…the website? I have to tell the website that I am indeed 18 again even though I have been directed there by the application. I can then mix a recipe from the website just like I would from any computer. I feel like the application is missing something here. Why can’t there just be another tab with shared recipes available that I can then choose to batch just like my own recipes in the nice mobile batch mixing interface? Maybe it has to do with storage limitations of the phone or something, I don’t know. I at least wish there was a way to “favorite” a shared recipe on the website and then that recipe will sync down to my mobile device. Also, to share one of my recipes from the mobile device I again have to be directed to my web browser and back to the website where I have gotten a page not found error on multiple occasions. Overall though the ease of creating new recipes on the mobile device because of the large database of flavors is very nice. I don’t have to own the flavors to create a recipe.
 

Flavors
 

Pressing on the half full test tube icon on the bottom of the screen takes me to the flavor list. At the top I can choose a vendor and it will list all of the flavors from that vendor which can be scrolled through. There are also three items in the vendor list that I wish were at the top instead of the bottom of the list, “Flavors I Have” which brings up a list of all flavors that I have flagged as “I Own”, “Flavors in Recipes” which shows all the flavors that are in all of the recipes that I have created, and “Flavors I Need” which shows all flavors that I do not have that are in recipes in my recipe list. Taking a cue from the web app radial buttons next to each flavor can be selected to quickly add them to my flavor library. I can’t add any cost information here but can add that information when I click through to the individual flavor screen. On the individual flavor screen on the mobile app there are no quick links to vendor sites to be able to order the flavors or vendor stock levels which is fine at this point because there is a coming “Wish List” function that I am hopeful will bring some of that beautiful vendor stock information to the mobile platform. Also gone from the individual flavors page on the app are the number of recipes that the flavor is used in and an average mixing percentage. It would be nice to have search functionality available on the mobile application for the flavors in the future. For a mobile experience browsing flavors is ok. However, some of the things that make All The Flavors such a great web app have not been ported to the mobile experience.
 

Mixing Batches
 

This is the reason that I was excited about All The Flavors. The ability to sync data from a web application and mix from my phone. I can forgive some of the other niggles of the mobile experience if this works amazingly. Unfortunately it is not perfect, yet. I can quickly start to mix a batch by swiping right on one of my recipes. I am greeted with a similar interface that is on the web application but with a few extras, at the bottom it shows the total amount of the batch in ml and grams along with the calculated cost of the batch as long as I have put in cost information for my flavors and bases. Those slide bars are back from the web interface for choosing the nic base ratios, target nic, and PG/VG blend and while I did not find it hard in the web application, my fat fingers can’t quite get them to work properly. I want a batch size of 50ml and have to scrub back and forth missing it a few times then finally, I have it set. The screen is showing 50ml but when I take my finger off it jumps to 51ml…frustrating. Remember how I said you should set your “Speed Buttons”? Now you know why, too bad there aren’t speed buttons for my nic target and PG/VG ratio as well. Don’t despair though there is a function that can help me. At the bottom of the setup batch page there is a “template” and “new” button. Once I have finally got all of my settings just right, I click on “new” and I can save a template that I can then load at anytime! Once I have my 3mg 70/30 and my 12.5mg 40/60 all set up I don’t have to worry about switching back and forth! A good save indeed. Finally, it is time to mix my batch. I choose the mix tab at the top. I can display the ingredients as grams, ml, or drops by choosing a radial selector at the top. Missing from this screen are the nice sort options from the web application so I am stuck with the ingredients in the order they are displayed, for me it is the nic base then descending flavors by percent and finally VG and PG. There are nice check boxes to the side that turn green when I press them so as I add my ingredients I can check off what I have already added to my mix. Once I am all checked off then I can click the green circle at the bottom and it will take me to the saved batches screen. If I choose an individual batch I can add tasting notes and see what the ingredient amounts that were added. When I choose the settings menu from an individual batch I have a new option that allows me to set a steep reminder to my google or outlook (if installed) calendar. First class functionality here, notifications of when my juice will be the most delicious! I do wish that the steep reminder wasn’t buried under the settings menu, maybe a nice big green button in the bottom corner of the individual batch screen? I also wish there was a way to input the actual volumes of ingredients that I added to the batch. There are many times where I accidently put in an extra .1 or more of one flavoring or another. It would be nice for the batch to be an accurate representation of what I put in the bottle just in case that accidental extra 0.5% of FA Caramel perfects the juice. There seems to be some bug in the batches feature, for some reason when I sync the batches to the web application all of the ingredients drop their values to 0 grams? Overall though, if you are looking for a solid mixing application that let you quickly mix your recipes on a mobile device this is the application.
 

Truthfully, the android application feels like it is not yet on the same level as the web application however even where this program is now is far superior to all the other android mixing applications on the market. Mainly, because of its tight connection to the web application and sync feature.
   

Pros:
 

1. Being able to sync recipes to the web application is great
2. Browsing flavors is good and easy to add new flavors to my library
3. The application looks good and is fairly easy to navigate
4. Adding photos to my recipes is a nice touch
5. Easily set steep reminders on the calendar
    

Cons:
 

1. Some of the things that make the web application so amazing are not available on mobile specifically flavor lists or quick links to vendors to purchase flavors.
2. No actual weights/volumes can be entered when mixing a batch
3. There seems to be some sync bug for batches that erases data in the batch
4. I can’t mix shared recipes inside the applications batch system
5. Slide bars on touch screens are the bane of my existence
    

The Bottom Line for both the Web application and Android application:
 

Is All The Flavors worth the price tag? Yes. Could it be better? Yes. Will it get better? Hopefully. This is why I am satisfied with my subscription. Honestly, if the batch sync bug was fixed this could be sold for $9.99 per year, as is, and not one person would be upset with that price. In my mind the additional $4.89 per year is my investment in what this application could and hopefully will be. The web application is amazing the android application is solid. Thanks to the /u/queuetue for being ambitious and trying to create something new. For some people this will be the last mixing app they ever need and for others I hope that soon it will be.