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How to test for success or failure?
submitted over 9 years ago by HiroshimaSushi

New DIYer here.

I recently just whipped up my first single flavour juice, and it unfortunately tastes quite bad. It tastes like chemicals and almost nothing like TFA vanilla bean ice-cream. I'm not quite sure if it needs to steep to get better, or be thrown out. Here's my recipe.

TFA Vanilla bean ice cream 9%

VG 70%

PG 30%

No nicotine

I recently watched a video by DIY OR DIE and he said that steeping doesn't save a juice, so if it tastes bad from the start, then steeping won't save it. So I thought that I should taste it fresh after it was mixed, to see if my juice in its basic form was tasty on a basic level. It. Was. Not

I can safely say that my concentrate hasn't gone bad, in fact it smells quite yummy. Also my juice smells quite nice too, although it does have a strong chemical/perfume smell to it as well.

Whats confusing me is that a steeped single flavor VBIC juice goes orange/red at the end of its prime steep, or so I've heard. Mine ofcourse is still crystal clear due to the lack of any steep, but surely such a dramatic change in the physical appearance of a juice should alter the change of its taste dramatically as well? I don't know. I'm shooting in the dark here.

What I'd like you veterans of homemade tasty clouds to help me with is. Did I mess up my recipe? If so, what should I do with my next batch?

Also, will steeping my juice save it, is this just a natural step of every DIY juice, or is it safe to throw out my perfumed piss and start again?

Edit: mobile preview format lied to me.

Edit update: I have lowered the VBIC in one of my 30ml bottles to 6%. I will leave the 9% bottles and the 6% bottle to steep for 3 days before trying them again and let you guys know what happens.

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by Vurveover 9 years agoVurve with the Swurve

9% is really high for vbic. Lower it to 5% as a single flavor.

A good juice will be good right away. A great juice it's just a good one that has been steeped.

Just to be clear though, not all good juices will be great.

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by abdadaover 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

I steep everything at least 2 weeks, even if they taste great right away.

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by immalittlepiggyover 9 years agoMentholatier

I always test when made, and then again every 3 days until I think the flavor has reached it's potential.

That being said, I'd give it about two days for that flavor. If it's still chemically to you after that, try bumping it down to around 6%.

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by diy_zombieover 9 years ago

Could also a cream...

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by bobs_atza_my_penisover 9 years ago

Juice turning an orange or red has more to do with the nic oxidizing than the flavors

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by _EatTheRichover 9 years ago

When I'm testing a new flavor I start on the low end percentage wise (5% for TFA/CAP/FW and 2% for FA/INW/FLV). If it tastes weak I'll add a couple drops and try it again. Of course this doesn't work for every flavor so I also check ELR for people's tasting notes since some concentrates can be extremely strong at even <1%.

When I tested VBIC the highest I could go was 6% without it becoming unpleasant to my palate.

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by whitaker2472over 9 years ago

I think if there is no nic in the mix it might not change color like your thinking it will also or it does it alot slower if it changes. There few post on that already if search for steeping.

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by turkourjurbsover 9 years agoFrugivore

I do VBIC as a stand alone at 15%. Anything less and I can hardly taste it. As for age I don't touch anything less than 4 weeks old. I've been disappointed with weak flavor too many times to age less. Some complain that VBIC has a peppery taste to it and I've noticed that too when it hasn't aged. 4+ weeks later the pepper fades and it becomes rich and tasty.

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by Graveyvapesover 9 years ago

I've seen that video too, and while it's great some juices just require a little steeping time. Vaping it right after the shake gives a good impression of what itll be like as the flavour intensifies over time. But if you're doing a creamier mix, these definitely call for a steeping period for the flavors to really come out.

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by vaparagnoover 9 years ago

Saw a post here yesterday that have me an AhHa moment.

The post said that some people with taste vbic as pepper. This finally made sense to me since most people love it but it tastes like burnt pepper to me. Maybe you are in that unlucky minority as well

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by HiroshimaSushiover 9 years ago

How dare you curse my taste buds to the realm of peppered vanilla. Take it back this instant!

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by vaparagnoover 9 years ago

Tooken

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