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I’ve been mixing for about 6 months, but I still feel “new”. Figured this was the correct thread to get some advice. I am working on a cinnamon brown sugar mango flavor:
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(TFA) Mango @ 3.5%
(TFA) Brown Sugar @ 1.25%
(FLV) Cinnamon Crunch @ 3%
(TFA) Juicy Peach @ 2.5%
(INW) Vanilla Shisha @ 1%
How can I make the mango juicier, or more like mango soaked in syrup (think fruit cups)? I was thinking of dropping the (INW) Vanilla Shisha and replacing it with (TFA) Marshmallow @ 2% and adding (FA) Amber @ 0.25 - 0.5%.
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Try a different mango. I haven't tried any mango flavors yet, but others say that TFA isn't very good. I suggest INW because all of their stuff is really good. Then you'll want to use other flavors to give the syrupy taste. I suggest TFA Strawberry at 1%, TFA quince at .25%, TFA jackfruit at .5%, and INW Kaktus at .5%. This should be very sweet and juicy. If you go with INW, start the mango at 1% with the modifiers above.
My suggestion (probably too late) is another mango. Cap sweet mango and INW mango will not get you where you want to go by themselves. If you order from bull city, check out their SC mango. It is hands down the best mango flavor I have tried, but it still gets covered up a little by heavy things. Otherwise, check out INW shisha mango.
INW mango and cap sweet mango get lost in a mix, and are kind of dull and dry. The INW shisha mango is very bright, almost astringent, and stands out really well, but I have to use it pretty low in addition to other mangos bc it doesn't have the best mango flavor.
Mango flavors in general get covered up really easily and lose their "brightness".
I agree with skidz on the additives, though. Cactus, pineapple, papaya, jackfruit, quince...something bright and tropical.
I like mango. Mango is hard.
I have 1 mango flavor and it's from hangsen. Tastes like Rita's mango italian ice, or maybe mango sorbet. I wish it had a little more of that ripe mango flavor but it's still delicous
Ok this is probably a really stupid question that will reveal just how new I am to all of this, but
- Is there an absolute need for bottles smaller than 30mls? I guess what I'm asking is can I whip up a 10ml sample in a 30ml bottle?
Thanks!
Are unmixed flavors sensitive to sunlight?
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I've been making e juice for a couple of months now mainly using capella flavours. I see most of the recipes on here are using TFA flavours. I wan't to buy more concentrates and was wondering what are your top 25 flavour concentrates to buy? They don't have to be strictly TFA but I'll probably buy from vapourdepot in the UK. ( /u/vapourdepot what are you favourites if you read this?)
I'm a huge fan of some of the simpler things
Any of our Mastervapor cereals are good (it's a popular brand renamed). Admiral berry crunch is awesome.
Normally have some lucky cereal made up, maybe some Flavorah tropical punch.
Any flavour profiles you like and I'll try and recommend some.
Sorry mate, was talking about concentrates specifically but next time I order from you I'll pick one of those up (or suggest some others; I like fruity flavours and creamy ones- that berry creamy looks good). Ordered the Velocity V2 Clone from you the other day can't wait until it comes.
it depends on what profiles you're making. if you're making more fruits you'll obviously want a variety of those, if you're making deserts you'll want more cookies and cakes. drinks you'll want sour and cactus.
What have you been making and what do you hope to make?
I've been mixing using amounts ( 3 ml flavoring per 15 ml juice, ect) how do I start using percentages or converting percentages for amounts?
Also, all of my fruity flavors taste like the same throat burning, bland, mixture every time, even when I use different flavors.. How do I stop this? I make a damn good banana ice cream tho
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For percentage, 3/15=.2
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Throw away your nicotine. It's probably a transparent pink color, smells a small bit like rotten fish with a strong pepper scent?
What fruit extracts are you using? I find a lot of my mixes using TFA fruits are burny and harsh as shake 'n vape, but fine after an overnight steep.
Not sure if you mean your finished juice is 15 ml total, and 3ml of which is flavour ,if so that's 25% flavour . If you ended up with 18ml with 3ml flavour that's 20% flavour . Grab a juice calc from the side bar mate and all the math will be taken care of . You can input your required % as per most recipes and the calc will dose it to the perfect ratio every time . Disclaimer , my maths above were off the top of my head with my morn coffee so brain not fully functional yet
So my question for this week is about chocolate.
I've noticed a distinct absence of chocolatey recipes in this sub. Recipes are mostly creamy, sometimes fruity, and a cocktail here and there, but I have yet to see a chocolate-centered recipe. Not much on ELR either. Sometimes I find one that has a chocolate flavor at a really low percentage, or maybe something about glazed donuts, but that's about it.
How come? Are there just no reasonable chocolate flavors on the market? Do you guys just dislike chocolate? Are you all so strawberry & cream addicted that you forgot chocolate exists?
(My guess would be that there are no good flavors available, but atm I'm tasting myself through a couple of chocolates I picked up and don't find them so bad)
Chocolate concentrates suck. Medicine Flower has made some decent ones, but still nothing that I think anyone would like to vape.
Chocolate is probably the most finicky flavor. A lot of the extracts available don't taste right, they turn chalky- or burnt-tasting when vaped, and so on. It gets worse as the percentage increases, so chocolate is pretty much relegated to a background role in overall flavors.
I see. Kinda expected it.. But as I said, the ones I tasted so far weren't that bad, though not really good either, so I thought maybe with some tweaking I could get somewhere.. but then couldn't find anything anywhere on how to do that...
Well, hope dies last, maybe I'll keep experiementing anyway (I'm still new, my standards as to what counts as "vapable" aren't as high yet ;)
Thanks for the info!
I think there are a number of good chocolate flavorings, how good depends on what you're looking for.
I like INW Chocolate cream, TFA Double Choc Clear, FW Dark Choc and MF Dark Choc. Also, CAP Dutch Choc Mint is very nice.
FA Choc and Cocoa are terrific mixed together and I don't get any of the burn-taste issues because I'm a low wattage vaper.
Oh and CAP Choc Glazed Donut at low % is great for that candy bar coating type choc w/o any donut notes
I'm afraid I have to generally agree with skiddlz. Most aren't very good, and the ones that are good are terrible about destroying coils.
I've had some success with TFA double chocolate clear so long as I pair it with TFA vanilla bean ice cream. The buttery smooth aggressiveness of vbic helps to balance the aggressive artificial chocolate flavor.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4bs4y4/chocolate_almond_ice_cream/
Adding flav such as sweet cream, Bavarian cream, cheesecake and whatever else. Are these the goto flavors for fruity blends? The percentages should usually be low compared to other flavors?
Bav cream is a go to for a fruit cream. Sweet cream works better for me in deserts. CGC is not a cream imo; it is just the crust of the cheesecake (that's all I get from it).
A good light "cream" to fill out a fruit mix is TFA vanilla swirl ~1%.
Most of my fruit mixes are just fruit though. Creams can cover up fruits and dull them down a bit.
And yes, creams are generally used lower than other flavorings for various reasons. Most of them don't taste too good at high percentages due to things like butyric acid and such, or they cover up whatever you are blending them with.
CAP Dragonfruit.
I couldn't find TFA dragonfruit and didn't want to place a seperate order, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
Stronger? Less strong than TFA? Using it at 8% right now, not sure really what to be aiming for as it's my first time mixing with Dragonfruit.
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Ok so I just tried it in a blend with some TFA Lychee I picked up, and I realized that Lychee is basically soap.
Cap Dragonfruit is hilariously strong, like wow. Gonna need to take it down to 5%, maybe 4%.
Also: I still cant nail down strawberries. It just tastes like VG to me when vaped. But if I taste my mix (yes, with nicotine. It was less than a drop on my finger, im not going to die) it tastes phenomenal.. Must investigate this phenomenon more..
I ordered the least expensive starter kit from nude nicotine on Saturday and haven't had it shipped yet. Anywhere B&M I can buy VG since the flavors I ordered the same day should be here tomorrow? And does anyone have a company closer to the east coast they can recommend for future orders of base? This shipping is crazy
bullcity is east coast.
You should be able to get vegetable glycerine at drug stores or wal mart. It's used a skin conditioner if that helps in your search.
I don't know what the quality of it is, but you can pick up VG at Walmart.
Edit: I just placed my 1st order yesterday. I ordered VG from Essential Depot and it's already on its way and should be here Thursday. I'm on the east coast also.
Edit 2: if you end up getting your VG from them it's cheaper to get it from them thru amazon than their website.
Not a new mixer per se but I figure I'll just ask here. I've been trying to nail a really good fruit flavor but no cigar yet.
Here's my current recipe:
TFA Strawberry Ripe - 5%
TFA Pear - 5%
FW Cantaloupe - 5%
TFA Dragonfruit - 1%
It's a reiteration of the notorious honey pearry clone. However, I notice that it tasted rather bland right off the bat. Is there any way to make the flavours pop more instead of using citric acid, EM, etc. ?
Fuck cantaloupe use honeydew
Also (ripe) is normally my favorite but in the honey pearry mix, normal TFA Strawberry is a must.
- TFA Pear 5%
- TFA Strawberry 4%
- TFA Honeydew 3%
- optional TFA Dragonfruit 1%
Edit: TFA Honeydew is awesome. 3% standalone tastes like those melon house juices you used to get back in the ego/mvp era. In a good way
Yeah, the reason why I switched to Cantaloupe was because the honeydew had a really soap taste. I'll give it another try and see if there are any changes. thanks dood
I think of myself as a new mixer and I'm not sure and not familiar with FW Cantaloupe, but I'd bet Strawberry Ripe is the culprit. Try mixing just the pear, cantaloupe, and dragonfruit at these %s and it probably won't be bland, and then you'd know for sure where the problem lies. If you want Strawberry Ripe in there, lower the % to 2.5 or 3. I'd try a different strawberry though, or add another strawberry in addition to Ripe.
So I made my very first mixes today and was pleasantly surprised. I decided just to use some loranns flavours my wife already had for baking and see how I got on.
Attempted a caramel apple first using lorann apple at 6% and lorann caramel at 2% 50/50 with 3mg and it wasnt terrible. Not much apple was coming through but the caramel was ok. But certainly vapeable. Im thinking of downing the caramel to 1% and upping apple to 10% and maybe when i get more flavours try find something to make the fruit pop better or maybe something like a touch of bavarian cream to smooth the whole mix.
2nd mix i made was standalone lorann mint choc chip at 5% 50/50 at 3mg nic and this was quite nice. Not an ADV but was definitely a good flavour as a sometimes vape.
Particularly after reading some stuff here I was just happy I made something vapeable first try haha.
Drop the apple to 2% and keep the caramel at 3%.
Really? Most stuff i have read so far suggest loranns apple is quite weak compared to alot of other flavours. I could barely taste the apple but had alot of caramel taste. I figured even at 2% i had overpowered the apple at 6%
Surcalose adding. I don't want to over sweeten. ? Per 10ml?
Is it normal for flavors to disappear after a week or two, but then come back after another week? I made some sour flavors, and likely used too much sour and muted the flavors. But after another few days from when it was very dull and flavorless, the flavor seems to have come back and is plenty strong. It was specifically my sour, hard candy, green apple mix. It was flavorless at one point, but today, all of the flavor is back. What gives?
Olfactory fatigue, vapor's tongue, wth you want to call it, sounds like too much sour. How much are you using? ? .1-.5% should be the most. Literally a few drops per 30ml.
A disappointment on my attempt at Philippine Mango. Any input on what else to use that would enhance the mango? I had found a simplistic 1 ingredient recipe calling for 12% TFA Phillipine Mango. There was absolutely ZERO flavor to this at all.
I've been looking for a good Coffee, chocolate & cinnamon recipe & would appreciate if you can help me with that.
Also what are the main flavors to have - after reviewing a lot of recipes i can see that Bavarian cream - Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (or another type of Vanilla) - sweet cream ... etc. are common in most of the recipes on every where. What are the main flavors to have to be able to create many recipes?
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Sorry, I don't like any of those 3 in my vape:)
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Everything from the "my first flavors" in the sidebar is solid. Collect them all!
Seriously, if you really lurk and search here for recipes with POSITIVE feedback, and buy those flavors needed, you will end up with most of them anyway.
INW coffee is the only coffee I can stand. All the others taste like popcorn to me.
MF dark chocolate is delicious, and although I haven't tried these others, I trust the recommendations.
As for cinnamon flavorings, FLV rich cinnamon is really good. FW cinnamon roll is good. The TFA cinnamon stuff is a little different, and works for me sometimes. They have a different type of cinnamon flavor that is hard to describe.
Some good things to have around would be a few creams (bavarian, sweet, vanilla swirl), marshmallow, and cheesecake graham crust. Just keep watching the recipes posted and make a note of the common ones used.
I don't want to make a new post just for these silly questions, hopefully they are seen...
I bought some bottles recently and the droppers are leaky as hell, it's awful. Has anyone bought any droppers from Amazon that are decent? Just the droppers, I like the bottles.
Second, I carry juice and I use the brown bags that the Philip Rocke Grand reserve comes in, however I haven't purchased juice and especially that juice in 6 months so I'm wondering what everyone else uses to carry around their juice.
I buy my bottles from BCV. $20 for 50 30mL bottles.
>Second, I carry juice and I use the brown bags that the Philip Rocke Grand reserve comes in, however I haven't purchased juice and especially that juice in 6 months so I'm wondering what everyone else uses to carry around their juice.
Ummm, pockets?
Just ordered my first order. I got the scale, a bunch of pipettes, gloves, 10ml bottles for testers, 30ml unicorn bottles, 120ml Boston rounds for the keepers, 100mg Nic from Carolina, a couple stainless funnels.
I have the following flavors coming:
Acetyl Pyrazine 5% PG-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Bavarian Cream-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Belgian Waffle-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Blackberry-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Caramel V2 - Cap (Size: 13ml Original Packaging)
Cheesecake (Graham Crust)-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Dairy/Milk-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Ethyl Maltol (PG) (Size: 10ml)
Fresh Cream-FA (Size: 30ml)
Fruit Rings-FW (Size: 30ml)
Gummy Candy (PG)-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Koolada 10% PG-TFA (Size: 10ml)
Lemon Sicily-FA (Size: 30ml)
Marshmallow-FW (Size: 30ml)
Meringue-FA (Size: 30ml)
Raspberry-TFA (Size: 10ml)
Ripe Strawberry-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Strawberry-FW (Size: 10ml)
Strawberry-TFA (Size: 30ml)
Vanilla Custard-TFA
Can anybody recommend a couple good shake and vapes using those flavors?
Hello, I'm wanting to get in to the DIY eJuice making thing, but I need a little help finding the right supplies. I am in Canada, so it seems all the US vendors won't ship here, and the couple of Canadian vendors I found don't sell nicotine, or if they do the shipping is nearly 2x the cost of the bottle of nic itself. Does anyone have a favourite Canadian vendor, or possibly a B&M on Vancouver Island that sells nic base for a decent price?
Also,are there any flavours that i should pick up? I kind of know what I like so I can base some off of that, but is there anything I should grab that might be useful while mixing?