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- Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
- Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
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- Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.
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Best way to shake your liquid wothout destroying your arm
Add your flavours and PG to your bottle, quick shake, add nic (if desired) quick shake, add half your VG, quick shake, add remaining VG, semi-decent shake.
Each shake doesn't need to be too vigorous.
If that sounds like a hassle you can try heating your bottles slightly (after mixing). Just a run under hot tap water for a minute or two which will reduce the viscosity and make shaking/mixing a lot easier.
Put it in a sock and spin the sock in an erratic way. Other ways are to get a magnetic stirrer or ultrasonic cleaner. You can try speed steeping methods as well.
Historically, I've learned to embrace the exercise. Just make sure to switch up arms to get an even burn. I've seen people rig a clamp up to a drill and do it that way though. I'm going to be exploring this avenue pretty soon...just a little DIY to go with your DIY!
'ello all :) How long do flavorings last, like shelf life?
I've seen a lot of posts saying you should start with small batches in zero nic when trying new flavors. I understand doing small batches, you don't want to waste ingredients on something that might taste like crap. But why zero nic? Wouldn't the absence of nic change the flavor if you normally use nic? (FYI I mix by weight so I can be relatively precise even with small batches)
There is a distinction to be made in most cases between testing flavors and testing recipes. Flavor testing is usually done to determine the taste/profiles/characteristics of individual flavorings. It is rare that we are mixing up single flavor recipes. Frankly, I don't know of any flavor that I can stand to vape stand-alone and I have several flavors that taste amazing like FA Fuji Apple (nor do I consider myself a connoisseur)...it would get too boring. So the idea behind using no nic for flavor testing is to give you direct access to the profile that is offered by the concentrate that you are investigating. Oh and yeah...why waste the nic?
Hey, as a new mixer I'm kinda curious about this myself! I think part of the answer is too avoid getting nic sick from sampling a bunch of single flavors. I think when I start doing my single flavor samples I'm going to just do 3mg cause that's what everyone I'm mixing for uses and I'm a heavy chain vaper anyway so I'm not worried about the sick.
How much does the RDA/Tank affect flavor? I recently got my Cuboid and a Mutation X4 RDA in the mail. This is the only vaping equipment I've had, except for the Aspire Premium starting kit. I've found that it didn't really feel like a huge upgrade. I also miss the mouth to lung hit of the Aspire Nautilus Mini.
I think it could be because I don't know how to build good coils yet. I mean, the one's I've built so far function fine, and they glow from the middle out, at the same rate, but between different builds, the flavor has been somewhat inconsistent, so has vapor production.
I know this isn't strictly related to mixing, but it's relevant in that I want to be able to taste my juice at it's best. I have also found that the taste is pretty different on the RDA. It's more airy, and not as potent, but it's also easier to taste the different elements of the juice, which made me realize that several of my mixes weren't as good as I though they were. Really, the only success I've had so far was a mix with Watermelon, Peach and Bavarian Cream. Wonder if that would be better with some Fuji?
What kind of mod are you running those tanks/RDAs on?
There's most definitely a difference in both vapor production and flavor when comparing tanks with RDAs, however the flavor aspect is more a product of coil/wicking moreso than RDA choice, imo. Others will disagree on that, but in my experience (been dripping since before RDAs existed), each RDA will have different flavor when paired with one specific coil. For instance, on my Velocity, I currently have a simple 12 wrap 24ga dual coil setup, with a final resistance of .55 ohms. This would normally be a pretty poor performer on most devices, as the airflow is insane, and requires a lot of power to ramp them up quickly. That's why it is used on my 26650 in series box. The higher voltage ramps them up quickly, and the extra airflow keeps the vapor comfortably warm without killing the cotton. The flavor on just straight 24ga coils is decent, but nothing special. I had a set of claptons in there, but were almost too big for the deck. They made fantastic flavor, but had to go.
What I'm getting at is that nearly every RDA can produce great vapor and great flavor, but it takes time and patience to get the build right. Voltage/Wattage has a lot to do with flavor/vapor production just as much as your choice of RDA/Coils.
> What kind of mod are you running those tanks/RDAs on?
Joyetech Cuboid.
Thanks for the rest of your comment. I think I'm just bad at building coils thus far. I only have 28AGW kanthal at the moment, so I guess I'll step up the resistance in favor of some more surface area.
I'm not familiar with the Cuboid. What's the max output on that one? More surface area will just require more power to push it, but with as little as 60w, you should be able to get a good amount of vapor production. I'd recommend cutting the airflow down on the Mutation X v4, unless you like a super airy draw or are running ridiculous amounts of power on big coils that can take that kind of power.
I have a hard time getting how to move on from premixed base liquid. I have been using premixed vg/pg baseliquid with 6 mg nicotine but i want to move on to using the vg and pg seperatly (because the premixed is 70/30 and I would like 80/20).
My vendor has pg or vg bases with 0, 32mg/ml or 100mg/ml. So lets say I want to make a 100 ml juice with 15% flavor and make it 6mg, how would I accomplish this? Would I need to have VG with and without nic and also PG with and without nic to be able to mix this together? The penny has not dropped at all for me although I been trying to find the answer to this using both the sidebar and other posts..
Thanks in advance
So, let's say you want buy the 100mg/ml.
If you have 100ml of that you have 100mg/ml
at 90ml of your base with 10ml "other" you have 90mg/ml
and so on until you get to
6ml of your nicotine, 94mg of "other", for 6ml/mg, out of 100.
32mg/ml make the ratios a bit more difficult, but remains the same:
100ml nicotine:0ml Glycol: 32mg/ml
90ml Nicotine:10ml Glycol: 28.8mg/ml (32*0.90 = 28.8)
18.75ml Nicotine: 81.25 Glocol: 6mg/ml (6/32 = 0.1875)
You remember those VIR triangles from physics? http://i.imgur.com/O8yJdHg.png
To get either of the bottom 2 numbers you divide the top by the other bottom. To get the top you multiply the bottom numbers.
Thank you so much! So lets see if I have grasped this finally:) Say I want to make 100 ml 6mg (80VG/20PG) with my 15% flavors. The recipe would be
- 15 ml Flavors
- 6 ml PG 100mg/ml
- 68 ml VG 0 nic (0,8 * 85)
- 11 ml PG 0 nic (0,2 * 85 minus the PG with nic)
Looks like you have 68vg/32pg there because most flavours are PG based. This will result in 6mg/ml 79/21 vg/pg
- 15ml Flavours
- 6ml 100mg/ml PG Nicotine
- 79ml VG
If you had VG based nicotine for 6mg/ml 80/20
- 15ml Flavour
- 5ml PG
- 6ml 100mg/ml VG Nicotine
- 74ml VG
15+5 = 20ml (20% of 100) PG
6+74 = 80ml (80% of 100) VG
Use a ejuice calculator the novice one in the side bar is fairly easy to use.
If I was you I would buy a large amount of vg a small amount of pg and 100mg vg nicotine.
If you want to make 100mls of eliquid with 15% flavoring at 6 mg at 80/20 you would do this.
15 mls of flavoring so you need another 5mls of pg to get your 20.
Then 6mls of 100mg of nicotine to get 6mg. Then you need 74mls of vg to get you to 80.
Ok, for some reason I was stuck in thinking that I should use the PG as the carrier for nicotine but I don't know why I was so set on that. Bonus stupid question, the flavors are commonly PG-based, so I should factor that in as well?
Hi! I'm really interested in doing DIY for my own juice and I'm still on the fence because it will be my first time making such. I did all my homework of reading the Beginner's guide and watching some tutorials and such. I'm really into strawberry flavored ones and with that I visited the Clone recipe thread in which I saw a recipe that I really really want to try. So, I went to a local site which supplies all the ingredients I need (even the brands) and added everything I need into my cart. My total was around $40 which comes with 200ml of VG, 100ml PG, and the concentrates (still without nicotine and empty bottles).
My concern now is that I'm not too sure if I'll even like the recipe I found and if so I'm afraid of tossing that much money (well it is kinda huge where I live - not in the US) just for trying out one recipe that I might not even like even though it is within the flavor profile that I love.
You could try the recipe for Mustard Milk by fizzmustard on this sub.
It only calls for TFA Strawberry and TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream and is a popular and well-liked recipe.
I'm still new on this sub and still finding ways to navigate around it. There's so much juice recipes that I get confused sometimes and tend to stop looking. I'll definitely look this up! Thanks!
Agreed, there's a lot to go through.
Try sorting by 'Top' rather than by 'Hot' - https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/top/
Only works for the recipes that have been posted as their own topics though. Generally here stuff that's been upvoted a lot is pretty good.
Which recipe?
/u/zeuther posted this one
The Milk Man by The Milk Man
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TFA Ripe Strawberry - 1.68ml
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CAP Sweet Strawberry - 1.12ml
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TFA Whipped Cream - 0.56ml
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TFA Sweetener - 0.14ml
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FA Custard - 0.28ml
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CAP Vanilla Cupcake - 0.56ml
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CAP Marshmallow - 0.7ml
Mixed with 22.12ml VG
Adding Dairy Milk at 1.5% is a more authentic note
Here's the % values
Ok I have some rather generic but important to me questions:
Okay so as a new mixer I have about 20 flavors in my stash. Wht is the best (most efficient) way to try as many flavour combinations as possible, and finding ideal percentages?
Also what is the most efficient way to pick up new flavours (ie, should I pick up new random flavors that sound good to try, or should I stick to only buying flavors with good recipes already out there and just start playing from there?)
Make 10ml batches of 10%. Check out this site: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/
Other ideas are to get a shotglass with a shot of water, put drops of your flavour into it. Mix flavours and drop amounts.
Yeah I use ELR. Notes on flavors and flavour amount suggestions are all over the map, and I dont like that you cant filter it down to just simple recipes (ie if I want to limit a search to 4 flavors or less). Im trying to start simple before I start in complex mixes. Not because they are really difficult or anything, but because I have a rather limited flavor selection.
Definitely just check out the flavours on ELR for starting points. I don't pay too much attention to the median mixing point of a flavour because its all dependent on what you're mixing up, but the average standalone percentage is normally pretty useful to give you a starting point.
Thanks ELR is great but it seems there is like a handful of recipes for each flavor that are highly rated and 500 pages of 1 rating or no rating. My biggest is probably I wanna mix like 100 different recipes and have no time to vape it lol. Bronuts seems popular. I think Im going to at least get the ingredients to try that and a few others missing from my tool kit, and see where that takes me for options.
Hello. I tried mixing 75%vg and 25% pg zero nic in 10 ml batch. Steeped for a week caps on the bottle
- 10% TFA strawberry ripe = tastes very little strawberry
- 15% TFA strawberry ripe = medium flavor strawberry but its still boring
- 5% TFA double Kiwi = medium to good kiwi flavor but it got a horrible veggie aftertaste and boring
- 8% TFA Pineapple = Good flavor and i enjoy vaping it
Can someone help me please? increase % or which flavor company to buy from? i also seen people say mixing strawberry from different brands gives a flavor pop
im using Essential Depot VG n PG i still have TFA Mango and Bavarian cream
I ran into an issue similar to your strawberry problem. I did 3 test bottles with TFA Hazelnut (2%, 5%, 10%), tasted them every 3 to 4 days for a month. They did have different strengths regarding flavor, but in combination with other flavors everything above 2% is WAY too overpowering, it will taste very wooden.
I'll suggest to up the steep time and maybe experiment with the PG / VG ratio. PG is for taste after all!
Can I sub TFA Champagne with INWs Champagne? Does it have the same 'carbonated' effect?
I also saw some people use koolada for adding fizziness - is it similar?
Has anyone tried Inawera "Purple Gum"? Is it grape gum? I hear purple and automatically think grape (want!), but, then, it could be a straight bubblegum flavor (don't want!).
Kinda' curious if anyone knows for sure, because it's a newer flavor, and there don't seem to be any reviews around.
I'm a new mixer/lurker. My question is for the mods, is there a way to pin this Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread to the top of the page? This is not an easy thread to find even in the search as you have to wade through all the results to get to the current week unless you are knowledgable enough about this sub to put in the exact search criteria. I didn't even know this thread existed before last night, maybe I'm just not Reddit savvy enough?