Soooo fast. I think I mixed about 8 bottles before I gave up and ordered a scale and squeeze bottles. Didn't mix again until they arrived. Pulling VG through a syringe is just miserable.

Retarded question: how big of a squeeze bottle can you get? And how big do you suggest?

I ordered a scale after my first mix session. I didn't enjoy using syringes at all.

Have you tried Flavorah's Creme de Menthe? Its pretty much a york in a bottle.

That's part of the beauty though. You can tailor a juice exactly to your own liking. Increase or decrease each flavor, change one brand for another, adjust the PG/VG ratio and nic just the way you like it, add this, remove that. All it takes is time and patience and access to a range of flavors to choose from.

Chocolate and mint are two flavors that I have several versions of from several brands and they are all very different. I'd start by searching forums and ELR for notes on each flavor. I'd focus on a dark chocolate and a cool mint, not spear or peppermint. Grab a couple that sound promising and start really low on the mint and gradually increase until it matches the strength of the chocolate. Once you find a good balance, perhaps round it off with something else, like a cream or vanilla, or something sweet.

If you're impatient it'll be tedious, but if you learn to enjoy the process of inching closer and closer to perfection, learn to enjoy the chase just as much as the catch, you'll wonder why you ever wasted money on finished products.

6% Cookie, 5% double chocolate, 3% peppermint, 1% sweetener and a drop of menthol. That is just a complete guess but if I tried to make thin mints it's what I would start with. I'm in the same boat as you with a flavor called lemon drizzle but I'm getting closer.

I've had some success with capella's Dutch chocolate mint...it's great for an andes or thin mint type of flavor. Just a thought don't give up!! I was the same way, and even a year later still feel like you do far too often, but that's the beauty of the ever-elusive art form that is DIY.

Just find one recipe that you like, and make that. Vape it for a while. Start substituting flavors and see how it reacts. Try different percentages. You get a better understanding of how the flavors work together. Then go back to your chocolate recipe.

I would stop buying it from them for a while, but go in and browse occasionally, maybe bring in a friend who wants to actually purchase something here and there, and eventually strike up small chat about the stuff you make. If they already know you make your own and offhandedly mention that you kind of liked their chocolate thin mint juice, and you've also played around with trying to create our own, they might be willing to share the recipe.

I went to wizardlabs and got a ton of the 8ml flavors. I figured I'd get some duds but each one is like 1.75 so it's not a huge deal.

Edit: most of my flavors are TFA, but my peach and pear are INW because I was told they have more complex flavors? Idk if that's true but I love the mix I have.

lol

I started with the Mustard Milk recipe everyone recommends as a first time, but my first recipe was like

6% INW Pear

8% INW Peach

1.5% TFA Smooth

Those are pretty rough guesses because I was dumb and never wrote it down.

I got 1 liter of vg, 1 liter of vg, 120 mls of nicotine, 5 60 ml bottles of flavoring, syringes and pipettes for $70, $20 for shipping so $90 all together. Rough math I figure I have enough for approximately 6 months. I was spending about $90 a month on budget juice and what I'm making is as good or better and I just started 2 weeks ago. This sub has been a huge help, I'm not sure I could have figured it out on my own, or it would have taken a lot more trial and error without it at least.

I don't know what he paid but if you're looking to start out, I'd recommend bull city vapors or wizard labs. Only problem is that bull city doesn't sell nic anymore. Wizard labs nic isn't bad to start with it. I prefer bull city because you can get 10ml flavors and wl sells 8ml in glass vials which I'd annoying imo. I'd start with 5-10 flavors, a small bottle of pg and vg, and get some a small bottle of nic(based on what you plan on mixing, some empty bottles (I prefer glass to start because you can wash them out with hot water and reuse most times unless ur mixing something strong like honeydew), and a couple syringes. That probably would cost you $30 to start really small. Pick some flavors that are known to be good standalone, then your next order you can build upon those standalones. Just search for standalones people like. It'll cost you a tad more than a bottle of "premium" juice at the store. So worth it.

I got enough to make roughly 900ml of juice (with a bunch of extra nic + syringes) for like 80 bucks. If I want to make another 900 it'll probably be more like 40-50 since I only need flavor and nic

I bought a 300ml flask and pipette for about 40$. They're kind of optional. I got some free syringes from the walmart pharmacy. Nicotine was 30$ for 30ml 100mg. And i bought a batch of flavors for about 50$ including shipping. Along with the $10 bottle of 500ml gmo free vg. It's a fair initial cost but really I'd spend that much in two or three weeks in juice and the nicotine lasted me 5 months or so. I'm in Canada for reference.