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Does anyone care if someone blatantly rips off their juice as there own?
submitted over 9 years ago by throwawayvaper12

Logged into facebook today and saw this website posted by someone in a facebook group in the city i live in. Scroll down a hair an you will notice alot of /u/enyawreklaw recipes and a /u/_bombies recipe. Some of the enyawreklaw recipes even have the same pictures. http://www.csvapejuice.com/

www.facebook.com/csvapejuice

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26 points
 
by NotCharlesMansonover 9 years ago

Messaged him. Here's the screenshat conversation.

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10 points
 
by ThirdWorldOrderover 9 years ago

Look at the cool kids and their 'google hangouts'

12 points
 
by NotCharlesMansonover 9 years ago

We tried to get Yahoo chat, but it was filled with your kind.

4 points
 
by Nicobeakover 9 years ago

not sure what page he made 2 days ago...on june 22, 2015 he said the dot com was live.

2 points
 
by cjinctover 9 years ago

maybe that two-column-table page is the big 'site redesign' he's showing off ;)

4 points
 
by cjinctover 9 years ago

Oh please, he claims they're all his. Douchenozzle

It's weird too, he sounds like a petulant teen and the domain was registered to his email address but with a relative's name/business as the owner. His Mom?

3 points
 
by bobs_atza_my_penisover 9 years ago

If screenshat was a typo, I wouldn't admit it

5 points
 
by NotCharlesMansonover 9 years ago

It wasn't. Seems trash-proper.

1 points
 
by white_androidover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I'm not use to messenger but doesn't the f mean he's on the desktop version of Facebook?

17 points
 
by Venterinoover 9 years ago

inb4 waynes' new recipe Sweet honey

  • Sucralose 1%
  • TFA Honey 10%
3 points
 
by jesusbuiltmyboxmodover 9 years ago

I hear that's wonderful stuff

12 points
 
by GoVapeYourselfover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Wow, that's pretty messed up. Someone else stole Funfetti also. Wayne (and all the other mixers) gave those recipes to the community to help grow it. I see the pitchforks coming out for this guy.

7 points
 
by throwawayvaper12over 9 years ago

/u/enyawreklaw /u/_bombies

7 points
 
by CWinthropover 9 years ago

That's why I keep my really good recipes to myself.

16 points
 
by Enyawreklawover 9 years agoCreator - Best Recipe of 2015: Rhodonite

and that's the exact reason why this kinda stuff hurts the community. I'm trying to get in contact with CS. I already emailed one of the vendors the carried them to let them know the situation.

8 points
 
by cjinctover 9 years ago

he's also hotlinking all the images so you're picking up the tab on the bandwidth used too

13 points
 
by sodakdaveover 9 years agoHas successfully memorized the sidebar

Re-direct the links to /r/spacedicks

3 points
 
by CWinthropover 9 years ago

I'm more than willing to share my other recipes, and I do give away bottles of my best, but I'll never give out the full recipe for them. Too many people want to either buy them, or set up a "partnership" for them.

3 points
 
by Enyawreklawover 9 years agoCreator - Best Recipe of 2015: Rhodonite

yeah man I don't blame you, completely understandable

3 points
 
by seabterryover 9 years agoMixologist

That is your first instinct when you see this happen, but Wayne is right. This community didn't get here because people shared their shitty recipes. You post your good ones and you let it be and you help out fellow DIYers. The internet will sort out these people who are ACTUALLY stealing something like names and images.

6 points
 
by AaronToroover 9 years ago

Yeah that shit isn't cool. Good on you for tagging them to let them know.

6 points
 
by DuskMSover 9 years ago

/u/Botboy141 I'd imagine is getting fucked the most here as he actually sells his juice (what recipes has bombies released that's up there?)

17 points
 
by Botboy141over 9 years agoGunner's Gold Gourmet E-Juice

Meh. I don't even care anymore...

19 points
 
by NotCharlesMansonover 9 years ago

It's okay. I care for you.

1 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

It's not Bombies original recipe. It was a homage by /u/fizzmustard

4 points
 
by DuskMSover 9 years ago

I'm aware, that's why I was curious why the OP mentioned bombies at all.

1 points
 
by sodakdaveover 9 years agoHas successfully memorized the sidebar

depending on how he's selling it (can't look now cuz website down), It could be seen as representing it as being from bombies when it actually isn't.

6 points
 
by NotCharlesMansonover 9 years ago

What's hilarious is the directly ripped names. I've only ever put "minus the stick" for Shortdick Bar on here. All of the images on that site are hotlinks to Wayne's site. Jesus christ.

3 points
 
by WhyCantIHaveThatNameover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Damn, I've been making it wrong the whole time. Now I know what the missing cream is.

1 points
 
by NotCharlesMansonover 9 years ago

What?

5 points
 
by not_rocs_marieover 9 years ago

is it already taken down? their facebook page appears broken or removed to me

6 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Facebook is still up. A couple of us called him out on our personal accounts and he banned us.

Edit: Okay I checked again and it looks like he panicked. Website and Facebook are both down. It's only a matter of time before he opens a new Facebook page with a new website.

5 points
 
by smack31over 9 years ago

Should be easy to find his new site. Wayne can just check and see where the bandwidth from his photos is going.

2 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

If he's smart, he'll start stealing photos from elsewhere.

4 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

He deleted my comments, along with Wayne's and the rest of the DIY community. I'm guessing he blocked me too since I can't comment or message him anymore. This guy just can't be fucked. And this is why I can't be bothered to help noobies. Who wants to wager that this guy has contributed absolutely jackshit to this subreddit? He came on here with the intention to start a ejuice company (like a lot of them). They are just keen on making a quick buck by riding on the coattails of other people's success. This will be the downfall of this community.

8 points
 
by Enyawreklawover 9 years agoCreator - Best Recipe of 2015: Rhodonite

appreciate the back up man. I emailed their vendor they list there. If anything I can cut there their B&M line off.

3 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Always do, man. You're a big part of the DIY community and we appreciate everything you've done. People like this are the reason why many mixers have turned away from the sub but just know that a lot of us appreciate what you do, and try to give back whether it's through donations or recipes. Anyway, I think what disgusts and pissed me off about this whole ordeal is how nonchalant he is (to the point where he's claiming to be buddies with you).

3 points
 
by nak2319over 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

To be honest I did too. I came here thinking making eJuice was as simple as throwing a few drops of this and a few drops of that and there ya go! Your very own masterpiece. After mixing for a few months I have come to appreciate what you all do more and more and put aside my greed so that I can attempt to contribute. For the past month I have started to try and create my own recipes so that I can stop "stealing" from the community and start giving back. I just want to say thank you for not giving up on us yet and I hope more people like him will come to my realization.

3 points
 
by nashvortexover 9 years ago

Recipes and formulations are patentable. If you want to protect your formulation, you must patent it. Otherwise, it is fair game. Dick move, but legal.

One may argue copyright protection for the re-use of images without permission/accredition though.

Edit: If the information was posted on a public forum, it is effectively in the public domain. Reproduction may fall under fair use unless if there is a license imposed.

2 points
 
by fitzmouseover 9 years ago

It is possible, though unlikely. One would have to show something unique or innovative in the process of making e-liquid to qualify.

http://www.uspto.gov/custom-page/inventors-eye-advice-1

1 points
 
by nashvortexover 9 years ago

Actually it is very easy, because you can always claim that the taste is unique.

6 points
 
by fitzmouseover 9 years ago

Would you cite a source backing this up?

2 points
 
by psykiover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

As soon as my Placid clone got 2 5 star votes someone copied it exactly, down to the name "Placid (Clone)". I pointed it out on their recipe asking why and never got a response. I don't care so much, but if they tried it I had hoped they would let me know what they thought!

3 points
 
by WhiteRussian13over 9 years ago

Wouldn't it work the same as you pressing modify or adapt recipe, it saves all the information but ur just going from 30-120ml to get the updated scale and just save it, which makes it become a recipe on ur account? That's how my stuff works I just add a v1-# # to it and my notes and it become a new same recipe..

2 points
 
by psykiover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Ahhh you're right, it does say modified by, only thing they changed was the nicotine. It all makes sense now why I see so many clones now, people are adding the mixes to ELR as their recipe book! I kinda feel like tool now, heh.

2 points
 
by 0ptimusRhymeover 9 years ago

I'm thinking u/_bombies has legal representation by fancy Esquires, yes?

2 points
 
by WhiteRussian13over 9 years ago

Sooooo ur telling me that I can't torrent a movie and then burn it on a DVD and sell that shit at Pacific mall?

3 points
 
by cdogg75over 9 years ago

If the recipes are in public domain,It's more like you found a recipe on the foodnetwork, and are selling the dish at your restaurant

1 points
 
by ScreamQueen813over 9 years ago

There seem to be other reddit users whose recipes have been ripped off by this guy as well.

7 points
 
by NotCharlesMansonover 9 years ago

Look at the conversation I posted. He clearly knows Wayne personally, so it's okay.

1 points
 
by Pekariover 9 years agoFrugivore

Probably knows all the others on this subreddit personally, too. So what are we haters trying to do?

1 points
 
by NotCharlesMansonover 9 years ago

Trying to let him know dumb shit like this is not okay. It's just hurting the community.

1 points
 
by kwildman66over 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Pretty shitty. special place in hell for people like that.

1 points
 
by Never_2Lateover 9 years ago

/u/project_twenty5oh1

2 points
 
by project_twenty5oh1over 9 years agoMixologist

Yes?

1 points
 
by Never_2Lateover 9 years ago

ssh bby is okay

1 points
 
by project_twenty5oh1over 9 years agoMixologist

http://imgur.com/JMX9dWJ

1 points
 
by seabterryover 9 years agoMixologist

r/ecigclassifieds is pretty bad as well. You hear people recommend users because they have a "great Strawberry Vanilla Ice Cream Cone" or "they're Bronuts are amazing". I was on there last night and it was pretty crazy to see how these people are dealing. Someone recommended a users Strawberry Shortcake Bar. No one ever mentioned or credited that those flavors came from here. Also, I didn't recognize any of the names of users here so they just lurk here and steal recipes.

1 points
 
by lidarimover 9 years ago

Guy does the same thing where i live everyones recipes under his company name and slightly changed names

1 points
 
by skiddlzninjaover 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

I've locked this thread after reading multiple comments seemingly promoting doxxing this guy. The post will stay up, but I would rather not risk bigreddit getting involved and dropping bans.

-2 points
 
by probywan1337over 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

Dude. This should be illegal and if it's not, we should catch his house on fire

3 points
 
by mixmikezover 9 years ago

Arson is the answer

0 points
 
by thedirtyprojectorover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Sharpen your pitchforks, man.

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