Hi guys, I'm looking to start mixing my own juice soon and I've been doing my homework reseaching whats what. I'm relieved to see Diacetyl has been practically eliminated as an additive but I'm concerned when looking at the recepies on sites like http://e-liquid-recipes.com that many of the cream flavourings come up with a warning that they "Contain Acetoin and/or Acetyl Propionyl" are there alternatives and/or are the dangers being overstated? I'm also concerned about many of the branded flavours I have until now enjoyed. Any help appreciated
I'm relatively new to this, and I went through a similar period when I was mixing my first batches.
My opinion on this is a few points
>1.) There isn't enough science to definitely say what is or is not safe to vape yet. I generally assume anytime I'm breathing in something that isn't AIR, that it's harmful.
>2.)All the experiments and journal articles that I could find about diketones in e-juice have stated that the levels they found were significantly lower than was found in traditional cigarettes.
>3.)There is a noticeable difference in creamy / buttery flavors that do and don't use diketones. Basically, Diketones are bad for you, but god DAMN they taste good.
Like /u/ucoop34 said, the best part about DIY (besides the $) is knowing and choosing what goes into your juice and lungs.
I personally feel that if something contains significantly less of a harmful substance than cigarettes do, I'm ok with taking that health risk. And as far as flavorings are concerned, the difference is pretty huge.
There are lots of great creams (without) diketone's , thats all i use actually .
Care to tell me where I might find them?
What you do is type the words (sweet creams) and or (fresh creams) into the (search box) on "Bull City Vapors" website .
That site takes the time to show a "caution box" around the flavorings that have the bad stuff in them, just choose the flavorings that have no "caution warning" around them.
Those "bad/harmful" additives, are so freaking delicious! F the hype for me, until science proves otherwise(or death/disease/whatever). To me, the popcorn lung from way larger amounts of POWDERED diacetyl inhalation for many years, versus the rather minuscule PPM when vaped, hype is meh.....whatever. To each their own I guess. Smoked the nasties for 20+ years that are well known and documented to kill people, but I'm gonna freak out now over some shit like diacetyl? hahaha. no way
You want help but are unwilling to help yourself by typing Diacetyl into the searchbar here?
The only way to be assured that any batch you make is diketone-free is to have it lab analyzed.
Jesus dude. All I see is hate from you all over. If you dont want to help unsubscribe.
I don't want to see an excellent and useful searchbar destroyed by repetitive and boring posts that could be answered in 5 minutes or less.
There's no reason why anyone should be allowed in any subreddit if they can't at least do a cursory search.
OP will get maybe a few hundred eyeballs. Maybe. Had OP checked the searchbar results, they'd have a LOT of great information.
Once they had information they can add to the usefulness of the archives by asking new questions based on what they read already.
If you think I don't help, fine. Others are in disagreement with you
If the searchbar were truly your concern, you'd happily answer the questions as they are asked, so that EVERY search would come up with the answer, instead of EVERY search coming up with you berating new folks who are just asking us to help.
Now forget about everything you know about anything. You are BRAND NEW to this. Let's go search Diacetyl and include only results in DIY_EJUICE:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/search?q=diacetyl&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all
Would you be able to find the posters answer in that mess? Would you get what were inside jokes and what was factual?
Please, if you are a moderator, moderate and delete these threads. Otherwise, try to help others or, at least don't be a prick about it.
There's a reason new members are scared to post here. DIY EJuice is not known to have welcoming members.
You fight your search fight, I'll fight the "We are assholes fight"
/soapbox.
To be fair, I spent ~12 hours over the course of 3 daays reading everything in the sidebar numerous times before I ordered my DIY supplies, as well as close to 100 other top posts. I forget where I found certain info and what exactly the info was. Give the dude a break man, we don't all have the sidebar ingrained into our brains.
Tell me honestly you have never tried to go back to something you read on this site and not been able to find it, and I'll call you a liar.