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Experimenting with flavor and coils ...
submitted over 9 years ago by vasco_

Hello,

On the verge of going all in on DIY, but I was curious what you guys are doing with the coils when experimenting. I started vaping a few weeks ago with an Innokin T18, and switched 1 week later to a vtc mini / cubis setup (after getting first a nautilis mini that was literally impossible to open) where I vape in TC mode with the 0.2 nikkel coils. They cost me 15.95 euro for 5 coils + shipping. And I'm having a blast, down from smoking 30+ cigs a day to 5-7. So far with all the different liquids I bought I'm well over 250 euro. And obviously one of the major attractions to DIY is the very cheap juice.

Here is the thing, the webshop where I got my cubis told me that whenever I change juice (as in new flavor) I should actually get a new coil. I read that it's a bad idea to try to clean out 0.2 ni coils. Going on a flavor experimenting spree might thus actually prove to be fairly expensive (ake 3 euro / coil) and defeat the purpose of brewing my own juice. I found a few online stores who sell sample kits, which seems like a great idea.

So I was wondering if anyone has any pro tips on how to do the whole flavor experimenting without going through a bunch of coils.

edit: thanks all for some great tips, exactly what I was hoping for, I'm now looking into some cheap RDA and trying to figure out where (webshop close by) I can get one.

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by MelodyMistover 9 years ago

Are you familiar with an RDA? Instead of using a tank with expensive premade coils, use an RDA and build your own coils using wire, and wick with your choice of cotton, both of which are inexpensive. Very quick and easy to simply change the cotton between flavours, and highly cost effective versus using premade tank coils. Excellent vape from an RDA, and ideal for testing flavours also.

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by bluecamel17over 9 years ago

The same is true of a RBA, right?

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by MelodyMistover 9 years ago

Yeah similar. Although the quick & easy access to build deck, and less cleaning to remove old flavour makes an RDA a great choice for juice testing.

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by bluecamel17over 9 years ago

Gotcha, thanks!

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by Sturgeon_Genitalover 9 years ago

What do you mean by RBA?

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by vasco_over 9 years ago

Thanks for the input, but I really like the convenience/build quality of the cubis, not to mention that I'd rather not buy a new device (it would be my 4th in 3 weeks of vaping).

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by theinfamouslonerover 9 years ago

Using RTAs/Sub Ohm Tanks for testing juice is extremely inefficient. You would save more money in the long run buying a cheap RDA+wire+wicking material than having to buy new coils or reusing coils and cross-contaminating flavors.

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by Theyreillusionsover 9 years ago

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Youde-UD-IGO-W-Rebuildable-Atomizer-p/yd-igow.htm

I've seen discussion on flavor testing before and this always comes up as an inexpensive way to do it. Debating buying it myself. As I said before I have a kanger subtank mini. Figured the rebuildable would be okay for just re wicking, but I'm still open to more efficiency. Anyone else used this one?

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by Guitoudouover 9 years ago

I got a subtank mini too and it's ok unless you want to test 50 juices in a day, then you'll earn some time by buying a dripper. I'm slowly testing juices and a RBA is fine on the matter of wicking several times a day.

The real problem with the subtank is, in my opinion, that it doesn't give good flavors. I've tested some juice on both a dripper and the subtank, and there is a world between the two. Even a good RTA is miles ahead the subtank in terms of flavor restitution

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by Theyreillusionsover 9 years ago

I'm waiting for my first order to come in and I bought a kanger subtank mini. It's a tank, but also has the option of a rebuildable. I'm planning on re wicking it when flavor testing. Like it's been said, I can't justify buying coils for testing and the overlap in flavors is nuts.

My friend sent me an ijust 2. Do not recommend eleaf coils. Went through 5 coils that were sent with it. Every single coil burnt out after like 4-5 hits. I bought atlantis coils for it and it is great. The battery holds the kanger just fine as well and from what I've seen since getting it, it's fairly affordable. No adjustable wattage, but it works and the vapor and flavor is good.

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by blizzlewizzleover 9 years agoPâtissier

You could find an RDA that costs the equivalent of about 8 of your premade coils, and kanthal (wire) to make your own coils that would last months. I bought a spool of Kanthal for a few dollars and it's lasted me about 6 months.

It's definitely worth looking into. I have a rebuildable tank for when I'm out and travelling, and the RDA for testing juice.

7 points
 
by Apexifiedover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

The cubis is actually really easy to clean out, with it's cup design. The coils are also really small and wouldn't hold much juice. I wouldn't find it necessary to switch coils every time you switch flavors.

But honestly, settle down. You're 3 weeks in? Figure out what you like and do some more reading on DIY before you "go all in"

If it's primarily to save money, knowing what you're getting into is important. Reading is free and can save you a lot of unnecessary investment.

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by daveofd00mover 9 years ago

Hi, What I would personally do is getting an RDA for testing new flavours - you can get decent ones for 30-40 euros. Another tip I'd give you is getting one more cubis (if you really like it) Then you have a tank for fruits, and one for bakery flavours. There is loads of bakery recipes which includes cinnamon, and that shit sticks to the tank for ages

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by slow_blinksover 9 years agoMixologist

The best method for testing is using an RDA with a Clapton or fused Clapton (preferred) and no wick. The coil itself will hold enough juice to get a good flavour and will completely vaporize it meaning you can literally drip one flavour then the next then the next with little to no cross contamination. If you really do get into DIY I highly recommend this as you will wind up making a lot of mediocre juice that you don't keep (unless you're just using other people's recipes).

2 points
 
by vasco_over 9 years ago

> fused Clapton

This sounds very interesting. Could you point me into the right direction (aka link to a cheap device in some online shop)?

Thanks

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by slow_blinksover 9 years agoMixologist

Fused Clapton is a wire type for RDAs I'd recommend a Wotofo off FastTech or a Velocity clone.

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by Artaserse09over 9 years ago

If you can wait, order from fasttech an rda, they have many original wotofo's atomizers at very low prices... Like 10/15$.

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by Forever_Nocturnalover 9 years ago

I'm currently in the process of buying a few (5 in my case) IGO-L's for single coil testing of multiple juices so I don't have to wash/rewick my magma 1000 times in one night. The idea is to set them all up with cotton and drip all the flavors I want to test in one sitting before cleaning everything up. Also it's easier to keep flavors around u need a little more time with instead of moving to the next flavor out of necessity.

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by PoorPappyover 9 years ago

Dang - an atty for ~ half the price of a pre-made coil.

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by Forever_Nocturnalover 9 years ago

Yeah they're cheap as fuck haha I think I got them for $7/ea on electronicstix.com they're very far from what most consider a "solid rda" these days but for me they're perffffffect. I'd say go for the IGO-W model instead if dual coil/big airflow is your thang.

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by PoorPappyover 9 years ago

$3.45 on Fastech

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by dirtydanover 9 years ago

This video and the accompanying pdf really helped me with my single coil builds. The cheat sheet gives the resistance per length/gauge of wire and from there I just had to keep building until I had it dialed in to my preference. http://ytune.pk/watch/psZG6OprdHg

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