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Is DIY e-juice illegal in any US states?
submitted over 9 years ago by noelsusman

My state legislature just introduced a bill proposing a whole bunch of e-cigarette related regulations. Contained in the bill is this line:

> It shall be unlawful for any person to mix, bottle, package, or sell e-liquid in this state without having first obtained a manufacturing license from the Commissioner.

It's obviously unenforceable for your average bedroom juice-maker, but I still don't like the idea of having to hide my stuff if the cops ever need to come in my home.

Has anyone else had to deal with this in their state?

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25 points
 
by RuntDastardlyover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I don't need to hide my flavors. I'm a candy maker! Totally. If the vapestapo busts down your door, tell them you're a candy maker.

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by BigCommieNatover 9 years ago

upvote for 'vapestapo', and I wish I could give a second upvote for candy makers.

MODS: can we change the name of the sub to ~~DIY_eJuice~~TOTALLYLEGITCANDYMAKERS

11 points
 
by BendroRodrigoover 9 years ago

+1 for /r/TotallyLegitCandyMakers

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by VashYskover 9 years ago

I'm all for this but how do we explain the nicotine we use in the candy?

2 points
 
by ChurchOfSkatanover 9 years agoMixologist

My gf actually uses some of my (our) TFA stash for making her own perfume and things! That's my explanation.

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by iwillnoteatgreeneggsover 9 years agoLemon Party Man!

Introducing a bill doesn't make it law, until it's passed.

Based on no context, yes, if the bill passes, then you would have to obtain a manufacturing license from your states commissioner to mix, bottle, package, or sell e-liquid.

I doubt it passes as it sits, even if it does, they wouldn't come after joe DIY unless they are selling it.

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by nhoy14over 9 years ago

What would be considered "selling" though? Selling your juice for a profit? I "sell" juice to my friends but all I ask for is the price it costs me to make it.

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by iwillnoteatgreeneggsover 9 years agoLemon Party Man!

They define it as no longer a hobby when you make a certain amount of money off of it in a year. You'd have to get a professional to be sure.

5 points
 
by Daheavybover 9 years ago

You can't mix, bottle, package or sell, which are all verbs, but are the precursors or the finished bottle of ejuice contraband?

My reading of the bill doesn't say it is. Just don't get observed doing any of those verbs.

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by thewomberchombyover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Indiana has a law similar to this. Don't think it's gone into effect full bore just yet, and if I recall correctly, a group of capers and e-liquid manufacturers have gotten together and started a lawsuit against the state. Dunno how that shit's gonna go down though.

As far as being a DIYer in Indiana after these regulations passed, the only company that has refused to ship to me has been Mech Sauce. All other vape suppliers are more than happy to ship to me, regardless of whether I'm ordering nic base, flavorings or even finished e-liquid.

2 points
 
by barefootmetalheadover 9 years ago

According to Casaa DIY isnt illegal under the law here in Indiana, you just cant sell it without the proper licensing

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by j_boy9over 9 years ago

The way the law is written, it will be illegal posses or use d.i.y. liquid.

"Sec. 1. This article applies to the following: (2) The sale, possession, and use of e-liquid products in Indiana"

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by barefootmetalheadover 9 years ago

http://i.imgur.com/OTLf3Ux.png

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by DrDoobie22over 9 years ago

So its cool to brew your own beer but you can't mix your own eliquid without a manufacturing license? That makes no sense to me

11 points
 
by erp0432over 9 years ago

It's all about control over people and making continuous money off their ~~slaves~~ citizens.

2 points
 
by OrionsArmpitover 9 years ago

Idk the current status, but when I was a home brewer 3-4 years ago, there were still a few states that home brewing was illegal.

1 points
 
by laffiereover 9 years ago

Don't forget guns, lots and lots of guns... As well as in many states making pipebombs are completely legal...

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by tournantover 9 years agoMixologist

My question here is what body of governance would enforce is bill if it was to become law? If some cops came to your door with a legit warrant in-hand and searched your place, you'd think they'd have a much more primary concern than you making juice, right? Would you average cop know or care or bother to report/write up your diy juice set-up? And even if they did would it fall under their power?

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by chewymidgetover 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

If they ban it, like this bill is proposing, the police probably try to bust you for it if they have evidence that you're manufacturing e juice. They have incentive, the more arrests they get the better it makes them look. The more arrests the more revenue it generates for the police department from your fines.

A way to look at it would be that they can arrest you for anything that is illegal at any time. So yes, they could arrest you and seize your stash if you get caught with it. Would they? That's another question, would go on a cop to cop basis.

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