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Vanilla Horchata
submitted over 9 years ago by Jakeycarey

Hello, I've been working on a flavorful Vanilla Horchata flavor for some time now, and I've finally gotten it to a point where I really enjoy it but I think it could still be improved.

My recipe is..

7% Horchata (TFA) 3% Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP) 2% Vanilla Bourbon (Madigascar vanilla) (FA) 1.5% Fresh Cream (FA) 1% Malted Milk (TFA) .5% Ethyl Maltol 3 drops of Joy per 15ml

The inhale is a sweet creamy vanilla taste, and it certainly (to me) tastes like a vanilla rice milk with some cinnamon spice notes on the exhale.

I like the way the Vanilla Custard/Madigascar vanilla play off of eachother and the fresh cream and malted milk give it a smoother feeling comparable to real dairy.

If anyone has any constructive criticism please lay it on me. This is my first recipe posted here so please go easy. :)

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9 points
 
by affixqcover 9 years ago

Here's your mix formatted, feel free to edit it in to your post by viewing the source of this comment. Looks good, I'll try it tonight!

Vanilla Horchata

Flavor | % --------- | - Horchata (TFA) | 7% Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP) | 3% Vanilla Bourbon (Madigascar Vanilla) (FA) | 2% Fresh Cream (FA) | 1.5% Malted Milk (TFA) | 1% Ethyl Maltol | 0.5% Joy | 3 drops per 15mL

4 points
 
by McHairpieover 9 years ago

I've made Horchata recipes that use TFA Horchata at 1%. 7% should melt faces.

1 points
 
by Jakeycareyover 9 years ago

I started off with around 4% horchata and it seemed like it wasnt enough so I upped it. The vanilla flavors and the malted milk help cover up some of the strength of the horchata while adding a good amount of vanilla sweetness.

2 points
 
by McHairpieover 9 years ago

Well I think you're out of your mind. But I bet you could throw some coconut extra in there at 7% and get that improvement you're looking for.

1 points
 
by _thisisadream_over 9 years ago

LOL. I'm with ya here. TFA Horchata is some serious trash. I actually called the distributor to make sure they didn't mix up cinnamon red hot and Horchata on their end. CAP Horchata is honestly the only one (I've found) worth looking at- and even then i don't have it over 5% in ANY Horchata or Horchata-esque recipe.

edit: 10% TFA honey might help smooth it out.

2 points
 
by PierGarrettinniover 9 years agoFrugivore

This looks good and I'll mix it up this weekend. I'll report back in a couple of weeks after a decent steep.

2 points
 
by A_Goonover 9 years ago

What is everyone's thoughts on Joy? I've never used it but hear about it all the time. Is it some secret enhancer for fruits the same way AP is to bakery/tobacco flavors? What's the deal?

3 points
 
by InsigmaTheoryover 9 years agoPâtissier

Joy does one of two things. (Usually not both)

  1. Brings out a baked, almost yeasty feel to anything cake/bready/biscuity.
  2. Brings out sugary feel, a bit like powdered sugar or a sugar glaze. Think funnel cake.

AP is mostly used for a nutty base note.

3 points
 
by Orwelian84over 9 years agoPâtissier

I love Joy, I use it mostly at 1-2%. It's a fantastic flavor to have on hand for any patissier. I second what /u/insigmatheory said.

With Meringue it turns my cookies into Donuts, with Cheesecake or creams it turns them into pastries. Beautiful flavor. Also does well when paired 2 to 1 with INW Biscuit.

1 points
 
by phantom240over 9 years agoPâtissier

I tend to use Biscuit 2:1 Joy. Have I been doing it wrong?

1 points
 
by Orwelian84over 9 years agoPâtissier

Nah, just different strokes for different folks.

1 points
 
by Crago44over 9 years ago

Looks very nice indeed. It's so hard to find a great Horchata Vape. I definitely want to try this

2 points
 
by aquaphishover 9 years ago

Bx vapor horchatatas. Case closed

1 points
 
by jeepsterjkover 9 years agoMixologist

What's that recipe?

4 points
 
by KeggsNAover 9 years agoMixologist

Not available AFAIK. I can almost promise it uses CAP Horchata though.

1 points
 
by macKdittyover 9 years ago

How important is Malted Milk to this recipe? I have everything else and I've been waiting for a long time to use Horchata.

1 points
 
by Jakeycareyover 9 years ago

It's not essential, however i definitely prefer it, adds another fine layer of milkiness to it. If you omit it, i'd drop the flavor % of the vanilla custard slightly.

1 points
 
by macKdittyover 9 years ago

Okay, I'll try that when I get home. I searched and I found Dairy/Milk TFA, do you think that may work in this recipe? I'm going to give it a shot, just asking for some general usage tips, if you know any.

1 points
 
by Jakeycareyover 9 years ago

It very well may! I don't own this flavor so I haven't gotten to see how it plays in with things.

1 points
 
by zdigglerover 9 years ago

I put Malted Milk with Hochata Smooth.. I only add about 1 drop per 15ml.

I mixed just added 1 drop of Malted Milk into base mix and a few days later it tasted like boiled sweetened milk and it turn into orangey pink.

1 points
 
by A_Goonover 9 years ago

What is everyone's thoughts on Joy? I've never used it but hear about it all the time. Is it some secret enhancer for fruits the same way AP is to bakery/tobacco flavors? What's the deal?

2 points
 
by prettymatthewover 9 years agoTobacconist

Not for fruits. Bakery, desserts, & tobaccos. Use it where you would think of grabbing AP. Sour is the enhancer for fruits.

2 points
 
by Orwelian84over 9 years agoPâtissier

While sour is an enhancer for Fruits, Joy does pair well with many fruits. Most notably as the base for any "crumble" recipe. At least for me I wasn't able to get my crumbles right until I started using joy. ymmv though, taste being subjective and all.

Also, at this might just be me, but I feel like Joy pairs uniquely well with peach flavors. 1-2% Joy with 4-6% VBIC and 5-8% of your preferred peach base makes a fantastic Peach Fried Ice-cream flavor.

2 points
 
by prettymatthewover 9 years agoTobacconist

agreed, but that is stepping away from a straight fruit mix. you start towards a crumble or cobbler variant, you're firmly into bakery territory. which is delicious, but i still don't think of joy as a direct enhancer for the fruit flavor portion of the recipe, but as the secret ingredient to get the right bakery notes to layer into the flavors.

1 points
 
by A_Goonover 9 years ago

Thanks. What does it do compared to AP?

3 points
 
by RuntDastardlyover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

AP is nutty/bready whereas Joy has that, plus a buttery/fried aspect.

1 points
 
by AWWsteveover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Is this definitely TFA Horchata and not TFA Horchata Smooth? It seems like a lot of TFA Horchata.

1 points
 
by Daheavybover 9 years ago

For me, even horchata smooth TFA is a lot over 2%.

1 points
 
by Jakeycareyover 9 years ago

I have not tried this flavor yet, do you think it should be used for a realer horchata flavor? In terms of mouthfeel?

2 points
 
by fritobandito32over 9 years agoMixologist

Horchata Smooth blows regular Horchata out of the water IMO.

1 points
 
by zdigglerover 9 years ago

My ADV for two week now.. I just do solo.

1 points
 
by AWWsteveover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

To me TFA Horchata is really strong already overpowers my recipe attempts at half that amount.

1 points
 
by BendroRodrigoover 9 years ago

Holy crap! I use 0.5% TFA Horchata in my Strawberry Horchata recipe and you can still easily taste it. 7% would destroy me.

1 points
 
by zdigglerover 9 years ago

I been doing a lot of Horchata Smooth @ 10% . I like smooth because I don't taste the nutmeg like flavor in there.

1 points
 
by 1800fullytorquedover 9 years ago

Hey bud. I definitely won't be mixing this with that much TFA horchata. To it'd probably taste like straight fireball candy and harsh. I'll probably sub CAP for TFA. I would definitely recommend CAP Horchata though. That stuff is velvety smooth, and probably the main ingredient in BX's horchatatas, If you've tried that. Here's my horchata-ish recipe:

CAP Horchata 8%

CAP Vanilla Custard 2%

CAP Buttercream .5%

CAP Marshmallow 1%

CAP Sugar cookie 1.5%

FA Cookie .25%

1 points
 
by UPSWorkerAMAover 9 years ago

What is Joy?

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