Hello, I've been working on a flavorful Vanilla Horchata flavor for some time now, and I've finally gotten it to a point where I really enjoy it but I think it could still be improved.
My recipe is..
7% Horchata (TFA) 3% Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP) 2% Vanilla Bourbon (Madigascar vanilla) (FA) 1.5% Fresh Cream (FA) 1% Malted Milk (TFA) .5% Ethyl Maltol 3 drops of Joy per 15ml
The inhale is a sweet creamy vanilla taste, and it certainly (to me) tastes like a vanilla rice milk with some cinnamon spice notes on the exhale.
I like the way the Vanilla Custard/Madigascar vanilla play off of eachother and the fresh cream and malted milk give it a smoother feeling comparable to real dairy.
If anyone has any constructive criticism please lay it on me. This is my first recipe posted here so please go easy. :)
Here's your mix formatted, feel free to edit it in to your post by viewing the source of this comment. Looks good, I'll try it tonight!
Vanilla Horchata
Flavor | % --------- | - Horchata (TFA) | 7% Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP) | 3% Vanilla Bourbon (Madigascar Vanilla) (FA) | 2% Fresh Cream (FA) | 1.5% Malted Milk (TFA) | 1% Ethyl Maltol | 0.5% Joy | 3 drops per 15mL
I've made Horchata recipes that use TFA Horchata at 1%. 7% should melt faces.
I started off with around 4% horchata and it seemed like it wasnt enough so I upped it. The vanilla flavors and the malted milk help cover up some of the strength of the horchata while adding a good amount of vanilla sweetness.
Well I think you're out of your mind. But I bet you could throw some coconut extra in there at 7% and get that improvement you're looking for.
LOL. I'm with ya here. TFA Horchata is some serious trash. I actually called the distributor to make sure they didn't mix up cinnamon red hot and Horchata on their end. CAP Horchata is honestly the only one (I've found) worth looking at- and even then i don't have it over 5% in ANY Horchata or Horchata-esque recipe.
edit: 10% TFA honey might help smooth it out.
What is everyone's thoughts on Joy? I've never used it but hear about it all the time. Is it some secret enhancer for fruits the same way AP is to bakery/tobacco flavors? What's the deal?
I love Joy, I use it mostly at 1-2%. It's a fantastic flavor to have on hand for any patissier. I second what /u/insigmatheory said.
With Meringue it turns my cookies into Donuts, with Cheesecake or creams it turns them into pastries. Beautiful flavor. Also does well when paired 2 to 1 with INW Biscuit.
Looks very nice indeed. It's so hard to find a great Horchata Vape. I definitely want to try this
How important is Malted Milk to this recipe? I have everything else and I've been waiting for a long time to use Horchata.
It's not essential, however i definitely prefer it, adds another fine layer of milkiness to it. If you omit it, i'd drop the flavor % of the vanilla custard slightly.
Okay, I'll try that when I get home. I searched and I found Dairy/Milk TFA, do you think that may work in this recipe? I'm going to give it a shot, just asking for some general usage tips, if you know any.
What is everyone's thoughts on Joy? I've never used it but hear about it all the time. Is it some secret enhancer for fruits the same way AP is to bakery/tobacco flavors? What's the deal?
Not for fruits. Bakery, desserts, & tobaccos. Use it where you would think of grabbing AP. Sour is the enhancer for fruits.
While sour is an enhancer for Fruits, Joy does pair well with many fruits. Most notably as the base for any "crumble" recipe. At least for me I wasn't able to get my crumbles right until I started using joy. ymmv though, taste being subjective and all.
Also, at this might just be me, but I feel like Joy pairs uniquely well with peach flavors. 1-2% Joy with 4-6% VBIC and 5-8% of your preferred peach base makes a fantastic Peach Fried Ice-cream flavor.
agreed, but that is stepping away from a straight fruit mix. you start towards a crumble or cobbler variant, you're firmly into bakery territory. which is delicious, but i still don't think of joy as a direct enhancer for the fruit flavor portion of the recipe, but as the secret ingredient to get the right bakery notes to layer into the flavors.
Is this definitely TFA Horchata and not TFA Horchata Smooth? It seems like a lot of TFA Horchata.
I have not tried this flavor yet, do you think it should be used for a realer horchata flavor? In terms of mouthfeel?
Hey bud. I definitely won't be mixing this with that much TFA horchata. To it'd probably taste like straight fireball candy and harsh. I'll probably sub CAP for TFA. I would definitely recommend CAP Horchata though. That stuff is velvety smooth, and probably the main ingredient in BX's horchatatas, If you've tried that. Here's my horchata-ish recipe:
CAP Horchata 8%
CAP Vanilla Custard 2%
CAP Buttercream .5%
CAP Marshmallow 1%
CAP Sugar cookie 1.5%
FA Cookie .25%