I have been testing various different ways to extract vapable flavor concentrates from fruits, something that many people believe is not possible on a small scale.
The flavors I have managed to produce won't taste like vaping candy, but it will produce the flavor you extract from. it doesn't contain sugar or oil, doesn't gunk up the coils or wicks. The process I use is just a still.
To start, I use a sharp razor to slice THE THINNEST slices of the rind or skin of the desired fruit (lemon and orange are easy). try to make sure you are bisecting the cells of the rind, you will smell a very strong flavor of that fruit while doing this.
use the razor to 'chop' and 'dice' the sections of rind you have sliced off, as mechanical force is the first step in the breaking down of the cells in question . When the cell wall is broken, the inside of the cell which contains the pectins is exposed, accounting for the flavor you are experiencing.
Now, transfer the shavings into a glass jar and then fill the jar almost full with distilled water.
Now you will need a heat source, I use a crock pot as I believe boiling or even simmering water will produce more bitter flavors. Keep the crock pot on a lower setting, filled with water. once the water becomes the desired temperature, it's time to make a still out of this setup.
Use tin foil or whatever you are comfortable with to mold a funnel-like shape on top of the jar, forming as proper a seal as possible on the rim, and then mold that funnel piece around a straw or piece of adequate tubing. Bend the whole structure so that the straw leaves the jar at around a 45 degree downward angle for dripping.
Now place the jar with the shavings in the middle of the crock pot, with the straw hanging over the edge of the pot leading down to another container which will capture the distilled flavor. You may want to use foil to seal the top of the crock pot as a pseudo-lid as the water in the pot will evaporate rather quickly and will need to be replaced.
The process can take days, but after the time you will have a container filled with what is essentially fruity water, but the flavor will be relatively strong as the fruit matter had time to steep in the water as it distilled. This is the flavor concentrate. Feel free to strain as muc as you like, but since this process is relatively low-heat most of the sugars and oils will still be in the glass jar with the fruit pulp, and the drippings are safe to vape once added to a VG and H20 mixture.
Again, this will not taste like vaping fruit-flavored candy, and I am still tinkering to try to figure out how to retain high sour-notes in flavors like green apple.
any expansion on the subject is appreciated. Hopefully people get good results like I did.
I have made lemon, orange, tangerine, grapefruit and green apple flavors this way, all tasted like the fruit they came from but lacked a serious sour punch, probably due to the fact that it contains no fructose after the distilling.
Thoughts?
This is a very simplistic way of removing things we don't want to vape.
There may be something to be said, however, of replacing the distilled water in the jar with the fruit matter with ethanol. Usually catalysts are used to facilitate the production of esters but heat could work over time.
>When the cell wall is broken, the inside of the cell which contains pectins and DNA are exposed, both of which contribute to the flavor being released.
How does DNA contribute to the release of flavor?
Theoretically in the case of the DNA. I can't actually confirm it empirically. Call it a quirk of experience, I've performed DNA extractions involving surfactants (not flavor-related in any way) and I the end product usually carries a smell of the cells the DNA was extracted from.
The majority of the flavor will be releasing of pectins, just figured I'd add my two cents in experience
>I can't actually confirm it empirically. Call it a quirk of experience
That is literally the definition of "empirically"
honestly this seems like a ridiculous conclusion to draw in this case. i'm sure your extraction buffers contained SDS, thiols, etc. do you really think the 500 nanograms of DNA in your microcentrifuge tube actually had a perceivable scent? i appreciate the work you've done here with flavor extractions but leave the molecular biology to the scientists
I was indeed using surfactants like sds and alcohol in the initial extraction, but I'm referring to the perceived scent upon multiple amplifications through polymerase chain reaction. Admittedly since I usually knew what the samples came from, my nose may have been biased :)
This is fantastic, thank you for sharing. I've been thinking about distillation of fruit essences for a while and your experience has given me the push to get going on it.
Have you considered buying a distillation flask and Liebig condensor from a lab glass supply house? One could also hook up a thermocouple to some kind of PLC / PID to accurately regulate the temperature.
What about creating an oleoresin and distilling that?
I feel like that would capture a fuller profile of your starting material and reduce the length of distillation. Might yield the stronger flavors you seek since you are starting with a concentrate, then distilling that.
It's definitely worth a shot
Interestingly enough, the major solvent used for creating botanical oleoresins is alcohol.
Soak lemon peels in alcohol, pour off and evaporate, suspend in distilled water, distill from there. I think they hardest part would be timing the initial soak and getting the resin to melt into distilled water. From there you would be left with a pretty pure essence.
The reason I find this REALLY interesting is because right now we are all pretty much blending artificial stuff with VG (and enjoying the hell out of it).
Cold Pressed extracts and the like seem like they will gain popularity and I feel like "all natural" juices will become more common.
From there you start making liquids based solely on the terpene/terpnoid/aromatic hydrocarbon profile of the item's flavor you hope to replicate.
I have experimented with this, I can't empirically say that it works better but it was certainly faster. I did not wait for the alcohol to evaporate completely, I added distilled water to the alcoholic tincture and distilled from there, alcohol still evaporated off, but I do think letting it become a resin first might be more efficient somehow.
Will test this further, thank you for the information good redditor.
I would think a decent masticating juicer could help move this process along. It doesn't really blend the fruit up as much as it kind of grinds the whole thing into a nice liquid while extracting the fiber. I have a Omega 8006 and that fucker leave me with bone dry pulp with a pretty well strained juice pretty quick. It doesn't heat the juice at all so you don't have to worry about the juice heating up and losing any taste and, and I'm just guessing here, if you do lemon and a orange at the same time those flavor would probably mix a whole lot easier since all the cell walls are completely pulverized. Again, no idea wtf I'm talking about, just seeing if that would maybe help.
Wow, thank you for a great tutorial! Do you have any advice or suggestions on a fruit/water ratio?
the ratio i use includes the fruit water as a part of the overall h20 content of the VG-H20 solution, so i usually use around 1mL flavor water to 2mL distilled unflavored water to 9mL pure VG (or PG, if you like that better, it may carry the flavor better actually)
This is awesome!
Thank you sir, just doing my best to help vapers. I don't like that corporations seem to be descending upon our beloved pass time like ravenous vultures, hell bent on making sure they lock down the market for flavor.
Don't get me wrong, I love many flavors put out there by these companies, I just don't like how limited information on creating your own flavors is. Most DIY tutorials are just about mixing and adding nic.
Do natural diketones end up in the concentrate, and final solution?
I don't have access to a mass spectrometer as mine is broken. I think, however, that it is safe to say there is no diacetyl in fruit distillate.
When fructose opens it is a ketone, if that's what you're referring to. Ketones are just organic molecular structures RC (=O)R', (an oxygen carbon double bond separating R and R') so I'm not entirely sure what you are asking