Steeping juice with or without nic in it?

submitted over 9 years ago by MRChuckNorrisOne of "The Damned"

I got a few juices that I know would be a little better with a week or 2 of a steep. When you guys steep do you have the nic in it already?

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8 points

by abdadaover 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

A week? Add nic up front.

A month? Add nic later.

Some of my blends really open beautifully after many months of aging. Those never have nic. My custom vanilla blends really need 6 months minimum. Nic is easy to add before dispensing.

6 points

by MRChuckNorrisover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

6 months....... man. I want to try one of those.

6 points

by abdadaover 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

The vanillas/custards from TFA etc are tastier by far. The vanilla extracts I use (plural) are all real vanilla, which means hundreds of volatiles and not all of them are sweet and creamy.

The dilemma with natural real vanilla is that it's far too complex and there's just no science behind it. Trying to duplicate a flavor I mixed in June with IDENTICAL extracts today is a losing battle because the extraction process isn't exacting.

But the flavors are good. I like them. They remind me of a vanilla bean but they do have a slight bitter "bean skin" exhale -- which extended steep times seems to reduce!

I made a 10 liter batch in October that I am aging until May. If it tastes as good as I am hoping, I'll be giving away 30ml nic-free bottles (90% ready, just add 10% of diluent or nic base) on here and on my website for sure. This is my most expensive batch made ever but my 2 liter batch in July was gone in 12 hours locally at $25 a bottle (30ml) and I lost money at that price.

If the 10 liter batch distribution is well received, I'll be selling it online as the world's most expensive eliquid lololol. And I won't be making a profit at that price haha!

2 points

by MRChuckNorrisover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Dammit man with that much thought and effort put into a bottle of ejuice. No one can fault a premium price. I will be buying a bottle fersure. Even if the exchange rate is still where it is. Sure I might have to take out a second mortage but damn it sounds worth it.

2 points

by Discchordover 9 years agoConfirmed Kills: XXX

10 liter crazy ass real vanilla 3mg, thanks for the chance

(Seriously, as a vanilla lover I'm so intrigued!)

1 points

by joesphaaover 9 years ago

was reading about the huge differences in the volatile distribution between different species in the recent issue of perfumer flavorist, definitely one of the most interesting flavors used in the industry. Seems like a total pain in the ass to formulate between inconsistent extractions and all the unknowns.

3 points

by MRChuckNorrisover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Yeah I never make a large quantity so I guess your mixing just the concentrate and then adding everything later, or have you put the pg and vg in and then just the nic later?

2 points

by abdadaover 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

I mix a ready-to-vape batch minus 10% final diluent. It's 100% VG diluent, no water, no PG, no alcohol (generally). For vanillas I don't need TeC or TRI so it really is 100% VG.

I leave the last 10% to the dispensing process. If someone wants 10/90 PG/VG, I just add the 10% PG nic base. If they want 100% VG, I add 10% VG nic base. If the want 0mg/ml nic, I just add PG or VG.

In February I am going to try mass surface area aging -- imagine a pizza baking dish that you pour eliquid into and let it air for a few days in a clean room (away from bugs or whatever) and then put it back in the bottle. I have an idea that some of the harsher notes just need to go, and surface area might help a lot. Dunno, it's just a theory.

Not recommended for home mixing lol.

3 points

by MRChuckNorrisover 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

That's a great idea. That could speed up the steeping process and have a dramatic difference on the final taste.

1 points

by fritobandito32over 9 years agoMixologist

Yes

1 points

by seabterryover 9 years agoMixologist

I currently make 120ml of flavor base for the juices that are in the lineup to be sold. I let them sit there until they are used. Every day they steep while waiting to be used when I mix that flavor. No complaints so far. I usually know based on testing the flavors ahead of time how much steeping is required.