I've been hunting a good pear vape for some time now and this is it, a slightly creamy, slightly sweet, juicy pear vape - at least as a shake and vape.
Ingredient|V1|V2 :---|---:|---: Coconut (Flavorah)|0.5|0.5 Cream Fresh (FA)|1|2 Dragon Fruit (INAWERA)|1|- 2 Apples (INW)|-|1 Marshmallow (FA)|3|3 Pear (FA)|1|2 Pear (INAWERA)|3|2 Strawberry (TFA) (optional)|-|(1)
Flavor total: 9.5%
INW Pear hit all the nice, juicy high notes and was a revelation to me in the world of pear flavors. FA Pear has those high notes as well and also gives the fruit a bit more "body". V2 has these at a slightly different ratio, since after steeping the floral aspect of INW pear pushed through a bit too much
~~INW Dragonfruit adds a bit of tartness and to me is vastly superior to TFA Dragonfruit when it comes to flavor. It's also a bit sweeter to me. Try INW Dragonfruit in 'Nana Cream and you'll be very pleasantly surprised.~~
INW 2 Apples made this so much juicier. Sooo much. This turns the fruit profile from fresh pear to pear juice. Makes sense, since cheap commercial pear juices, ciders and drinks and such are usually apple juice / cider / wine mixed with pear flavorings.
FA Marshmallow is a great, sweet, perfectly rich cream and another of my all time favorites. Slightly maltier than TFA MArshmallow, but sweeter and more clean tasting. "Whitening" with a bit of FA Fresh Cream creates a cream profile that fits this juice very well. Not too heavy, not too vomity, not too milky, just sweet, light, and a bit candyish cream. I also tried a variation with TFA Bavarian cream - not good, too heavy.
FLV Coconut is a goddamn great coconut. It's potent, but doesn't take over as easily as TFA Suntan Oil Extra. It plays really well with both the creams and fruits as a binder and booster, without being too overpowering.
(OPTIONAL) TFA Strawberry @ 1% was added as suggested, added a bit of juice and sweet. TFA Strawberry has a lot of triethyl citrate, so there is an emulsifier property to it, making the whole mix a bit more coherent, but it imparts a slight strawberry background after steeping. It's not bad at all, but I think it works better without. I have problems tasting TFA Strawberry so use it if you like it.
~~The only thing lacking is just a hint more sweetness, and just a hint less dryness on the aftertaste, so might try adding a bit of EM, or upping the overall flavor percentage. I just made this (a fifth iteration, I think), gave it a little spin with a frother, and it's a shake and vape for sure. Therefore I don't have any notes after steeping, yet. FA Pear gets creamier after steeping, so maybe it'll take the dryness away. Any other suggestions?~~
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God. Damn this is good now. No notes after steeping still, but I am pretty positive that this recipe is nailed.
Doesn't cactus flavoring (I think is from inawera) add some juiciness to recipes? That might be what you're looking for
INW Cactus has a slight floral flavor to me which I'm not that keen of, even at less than 0.5%. It works in some things like beverages, straight fruits or candies but it's a very "fresh" flavoring, and this is like a creamier vape so I don't see them working too well together.
It doesn't. Just adds floralness. I don't know where that idea started but I've had ZERO luck with it.
im curious if the floral notes would pair well with taro or tea flavors.
> Therefore I don't have any notes after steeping, yet
My only issue with marshmallow pushing above 2% is it seems to get a little too waxy for me after week +. Perhaps in your recipe the fruits are strong enough to cut through it. I'm interested regardless so I'll mix it as described. Looks solid. I have V1 Coconut so I only use a drop or two, that's the only change I intend to make.
I have a Hazelnut Pear that I started a couple of months ago but could never get it past the "harsh" stage. Your recipe has convinced me that there are a few tricks I can try (such as adding marshmallow) to smooth things out on the back end.
Almond and pear pair together really well, if you can't get the hazelnut to work
I've got the hazelnut part down ok, it's just that the pear is presenting as harsh, even after days/weeks of steeping. I had a similar problem with root beer that was solved by changing a few things around, and then adding a tiny bit of EM to round things out. I'm thinking that if I can dull the edge of the pear a bit with marshmallow it will take the rough edges down enough to make it an enjoyable vape.
Try A drop or two of MTS Vape Wizard per 15 mL and see if that helps the dryness
Thanks, but I don't want to mute the flavor with triacetin/smooth/mts, that stuff might be in the dragonfruit already, and the most probably isn't going to help with dryness either.
This looks great!!
Do you think CAP dragonfruit and INW coconut could be subbed in? Don't have the others. I have coconut extra TPA but INW is much better imo.
Also-- Catalan cream around 1-2% sounds like a seriously delicious add-on here.
That sounds great but I can't justify making it right now. I have my nic, bottles, scale, pipettes all set but working on flavors for the first time.
I just can't do a lot of Inawera or somewhat FA as I won't be able to use them in a lot of stuff. Maybe you guys go through a TFA stage where you try maybe 20 different things and find only 2 that's a remake then bust out to other flavors as I can't justify spending $$$ because I have literally 40 flavors in a queue at one point and my recipe list is so out of control it's not even funny. But I can use those flavorings in tons of different mixes also which is huge for me.
Is TFA getting phased out a bit now for other places like FA, CAP, FW as they're maybe higher quality? I know you'll have gems in all of them but for some reason it's a TFA world generally, is that because they're just that good?
Also what's the generally consonances on LorAnn? They're dirt cheap and have decent reviews on ecx and places like that but it seems nobody likes to use their juice for mixing from what I've seen..
It's not really "a TFA world", they just have a lot of staple flavors and they're relatively cheap, but mostly not as concentrated as FA, INW or FLV.
Maybe a poor choice of words, but starting out there really isn't a reason for me to branch out to a lot of of the non-tfa's besides something like Fuji Apple for example because you don't have as many options of experimenting with maybe 80+ different options out of maybe 20 TFA flavors, and 80 is low balling it. Unless you want to go nuts and purchase $100 of flavoring off the bat but most just want to get their feet wet first.
Sweet Strawberry (CAP) I might get but for the newbies they probably don't want to also go strawberry tfa and strawberry ripe also. But everybody is different I guess, some may go for just specific juices or like me dial a few in and then try to somehow figure out this DAMN e-liquid-calculator to figure out how in the F to make it show in your recipe list if there's a breakdown on what flavors you need as that would save me a lot of time.
For example with your recipe list, 12 of them take Juicy Pear TFA. I think you can break it down if you input your flavors by price and ml and then it will show if you have enough, but I don't know if it can break it down like I was talking about. I tried the juice calculator for a little bit but there are about 700 options and I was ready to pull my hair out, so I just said F it and manually put stuff into the e-liquid recipe list online.
If there is no reason for you to buy anything else than TFA, by all means don't. Your first reply sounds like you are upset that I made this recipe and you can't mix it and continue to explain why you don't want to buy FA on INW. No one is forcing you to mix this recipe.
There are a plethora of flavors from other vendors that are just as versatile, or more versatile than most of TFA, and FA, INW and FLV can actually be more cost-effective due to their high concentration.
Flavors from different vendors are not comparable. So say you want the best, realistic, versatile cinnamon? Not gonna get it from anywhere else than Flavorah (or maybe FA), end of story. There's no reason to buy anything else than Flavorah (or FA) in that sense. Want a straight up milky cream with no sweetener, vanilla or custard - in other words, a wildly versatile cream? FA Fresh Cream. No single TFA flavor comes even close.
So buy all TFA if you want, but to claim that no other vendor can produce as many plausible variations out of 20 flavors - that's just simply not true. All TFA is only one way to "get your feet wet", but it is not the only way, it's not even the best one.
Maybe some apple? Just throwing it out there.