I was watching a Rin Vapes video where she mentions a recipe that was deleted because the mixer didn't want anyone to profit from it.
That is exactly the wrong thing to do. If someone mixes and sells a recipe they found here. The recipe should be updated to reference the vendor and e-liquid so that everyone could DIY instead of purchasing it.
There is no practical way to share a recipe and prevent someone from mixing and selling it. So, making the recipe available for all to DIY can lead to less sales for the profiteer.
Personally, I find it naive for anyone to think that if they post a recipe on an open forum, and it's good, that some company won't take it.
Also, if a company already took it and is selling it, I think it's pointless to remove the recipe.
This has happened to me at least two times that I know of. I just hope they're doing it justice and not gorking it up.
i just sell it to my friends for extremely cheap so i can just make back what i spent it for all my friends are just a lazy fucks that dont want to diy but want good juice XD like i dont need to profit i just want people to get juices that i thought was good and let them try it for cheap lmao I feel like taking the recipe and profitting without the knowledge of the creater is wrong tbh if you got the recipe for free, let other people know that the recipe is online and let the creator know and if they give you clear to do so i feel like its a fair move just my 2 cents
Mind if I ask what type of pricing structure you got going on? I'm literally this guy for my friends as well.
I just took the pricing structure of a local shop and multiplied by some fraction or percentage. (I won't share what that fraction or percentage was.) I started expecting nobody would pay what I was asking, rather that I'd just mix 10x larger batches of whatever I was vaping and give it out -- the few "sales" would pay for all the materials.
Boy was I wrong. I got swamped really quickly with orders. I wasn't having fun. Some friends got super douchey over it and I didn't really want to do anymore.
How about this: don't build a price structure. Make it a donation or tip that they choose the size of.
I'm this guy for my friends as well. I do $8 for 30ml, and $25 for 120ml. I originally did $10 and $30 but lowered it, not because they weren't paying it, because they were. I lowered it because my goal with friends was just to hook them up cheap, not make a ton of money. I feel the prices I have now are good and still give me a bit of profit for my time.
I'm in Canada, but I sell to friends. I do $10 for a 50ml or three 30mls for $20. I could probably do with raising my prices a bit, honestly. That CDN $$$ :(
I do $10/30 ml, $60/250 $100/500. I hate selling 30 ml bottles.
sorry for the late reply but what i do is take the price of all the materials i need to mix a certain batch (lets say 1000ml for sake of convince) and take how much that costed me and calculate how much approximately the bottle im selling costed. I personally add couple bucks for each bottles for my work share. I personally like doing math so i calculate every single batch by each bottle lmao. my usual price is 10$ for 30ml and use that to base my higher bottles i hoped that helped if not feel free to shoot me a PM!
Thanks for linking a 2h video without any time reference for your point.
I agree with your sentiment though.
I'm long-winded, so apologies for that. I do live shows every now and then to stay interactive with my viewers and they always turn out long. Anyway, I just basically said that I was looking for a recipe and google lead me to a recipe that was removed from here. I said I suspected that the user either decided to create the juice and sell it or a vendor stole it and sold it themselves. I said it was a shame that vendors do this and it only punishes DIY'ers. I know there's no real way to avoid this. I just think it's immoral.
My complaint wasn't that the video is long, it's that the OP knew approx. what timeframe in the video where you mention said deleted recipe, yet left a link from the beginning of a 2 hour video. It is just extremely inconsiderate, imo.
Whats an example of a recipe made by a mixer on the internet and a company has taken it for themselves. The reason why I ask is because I would rather spend 10 bucks buying the juice already made, then buying all the flavors paying for shipping, making it, waiting for it to steep, trying it and not liking it. An example has been Bronuts. I jumped on the hype train bought all the ingredients and by the time they arrived everyone was saying that it tasted horrible.
- Bronuts is delicious
- That book came out with all the recipes in it for sale. All the ones that were free and no credit was given. I think that's what people are retaliating to
What book are you referring to? I'm giving Bronuts a month of steeping before trying it.
I can't find it now it maya be gotten shut down. They've been talking about it on DIY or Die podcast and Grimm Green's logo was on it until he said he didn't want any part of it. Also bronuts is good right off the bat. Not sure if it would be any better after steeping
^^^This too. Most people I have talked to are most upset about not getting credit for their work. DIY'ing is not easy, especially the more complex recipes. It takes a lot of time and wasted product for most people. (some people are just innately good at it but most aren't, including myself) There is a company who does what you're looking for but they have varied reviews (some people said it took forever to get their product, etc). Unfortunately I forget the name but I'm sure someone here will chime in.
If a company steals your recipe, that should give you all the more reason to keep it up. Post it on that company's facebook, instagram, whereever you can.
Did you ever look into that funfetti mix someone brought to your attention a few weeks back?
Well I'm waiting on a bottle to taste the recipe. But for now the company's owner has been publicly denouncing it and also telling me that I'm a piece of shit and all my recipes suck. Mind you I've never said one word to these guys. It's getting a little out of hand lol.
I just want to clarify that I suspected that was the reason the recipe was pulled. (or one of the reasons) There was no way for me to know that one for sure was pulled for that reason. I just know for a fact that recipes have been pulled by people for that reason and it's a shame.
There are so many juice companies now that I am sure a good 50% of them use recipes from websites. You can't tell me any higher of a percent don't do it.
I have seen plenty of juice lines that just do single Capella concentrates untouched so that tells me that their more complex recipes are quite possibly taken from somewhere. It also tells me they are not passionate about mixing and I usually quit testing their flavors right away.
This is a public forum so you can't blame anyone or say they shouldn't do it. You can't blame anyone that changes their mind and deletes their recipe posts also unless they are bitching about their recipes being copied to another location "too bad". They have to take it as a loss as far as expecting it to be a one of a kind mix.