As you may or may not recall, a few month ago I wrote this post about getting the most out of your flavor extracts by creating your own master list of the properties of flavors by testing and keeping extensive notes.
If you haven't already read that piece, this write up will do nothing for you, as it's a slightly more advanced technique for getting the best possible flavor from your liquids.
If you go right now and turn on any cooking channel - the food network, the cooking channel, and all of those, you'll hear this term undoubtedly within a few moments of turning the channel on:
layering flavor
No one here can argue that there are not parallels between making ejuice and cooking or crafting cocktails. Yes, we may have different raw ingredients and follow different principals and properties to achieve the end result, but we are undoubtedly layering flavors to get a final product.
When cooking, it's often seasoning every ingredient along the way. Maybe adding aromatics like celery, onions, carrots, garlic, pepper that infuse an additional level of flavoring above and beyond that main ingredient.
We don't really have the luxury of adding simple aromatics to enhance flavors, nor do we have centuries of time tested methods to follow without knowing exactly why it works.
Enough about that. Here's my point. Let's take a simple flavor aroma from my arsenal that I use pretty regularly:
- TFA Orange-Mandarin
My notes, after tasting extensively, was that this is sort of a tang flavor. Juicy, orange, but not real orange. It's definitively missing some roundness to flavor. There's also a tinge of candy-like finish there that is slightly displeasing.
It's great if you want an orange note and will add that to virtually any mix in small percentages. It's neither over or under potent and stays virtually constant throughout the aging process.
Think of it as adding a splash of orange to a margarita. It's strong enough to stand up to powerful ingredients like the tequila, it compliments the other secondary notes - orange from the triple sec, and the citrus component of sour mix. But if it's sub-par orange juice it won't taste good by itself.
But today, I don't want to use orange as an enhancer or secondard flavor note. I want Big, juicy, fresh, in your face orange. How can I achieve that?
First, I want to look at what I am missing in the flavor profile above - I have juicyness, and I have an orange juice like flavor (tang) albeit more on the artificial side of things, and I have a candy-like sweet finish.
So what's missing? The zesty, pithy, oily flavors of a fresh just peeled orange. Balance from that sugary finish in bitterness.
How can I get that?
So I check my arsenal, not to see how to amplify the flavor I already have, but to layer in additional orange note flavors.
There's an easy way to do this.
- LA Orange Blossom
While still being orange, it's a different orange. More like orange blossom water, it's pithy, bitter, dry, but still orange. And this flavor is intense. It's outrageous.What would I even use something like this for unless I was trying to mimic orange bitters in a boubon manhattan?
But a combination of the two, well that's exactly what we are discussing here. Layer the orange flavors. One gives you juicy, almost fake orange flavor with sweet finish. One is exceptionally pungent, bitter, dry but also adds the oil, pithy flavor the brain recognizes as a freshly peeled orange.
I mix them like this:
- 8 parts TFA Orange-Mandarin
- 1 Part LA Orange Blossom
- 1 drop any Lime per 15ml base (enhances citrus note)
It took some time to find the right ratio to mimic "real" orange flavor, but this has worked out for me to be as close to the real thing.
I am not telling you this is always necessary. There are many aromas that can give you a full, round, complete real taste. But there are a lot that cannot as well.
You can do this with virtually any flavor out there.
Graham Cracker? Sure there are 20 different versions. What if you find the strengths and weaknesses, combine them, and end up with a spot on, crumbly, grahamy touch of cinnamon perfect buttery rich crust?
Strawberries? Probably the most common use of this technique. Sweet strawberries + ripe strawberries + a drop of cactus tastes like you picked it off a vine and popped it right in your mouth.
Apples - under served market. There are billions of apple flavors, I'm sure with a little dedication and time, you could find a combo of 1,2, or even 3 to layer in the flavor to get a final result of a real, just bit into the skin and flesh of a granny smith apple flavor.
My point, in summary, is - if you want to up your DIY skills, and get juice that creates and mimics an exact flavor in the real world, you must already have notes and information on each flavor on it's own and what it's profile is. Then it's as easy as opening your notes, combining a few ingredients (or buying up based on others notes here) and completely change what you have in your bottle.
So layer your flavors. Break the rules. Add 10 different blueberry concentrates together until you can taste the tart peel, the juicy flesh, feel the juice run down your chin.
The sum is only equal to it's parts for the uneducated.
Knowledge is power
*The sum of two lesser parts can be greater if it enhances the strengths and lessens the weaknesses.
Good luck, and happy mixing.
I find that INW ras is amazing but you really need FA Raspberry and sweet raspberry to even it out. Since FA and INW are more potent I do a 2/1/1 ratio of sweet/FA/INW and if you're ever trying to add that "wild" fresh picked berry ripeness to any berry, you definitely need Hibiscus. You pretty much summed up my exact style if mixing. Many props to you sir!
I would love to be able to afford all the flavors each flavor manufacturer offered because that would allow this extensive testing to take place but i don't have that option.
Botboy, i believe bought every flavor on the planet and has extensive notes on what each flavor taste like (to him) , it's an excellent read.
When you only have a handful of flavors from each manufacturer this extensive testing is much more difficult.
Excellent post though
It's funny, as someone with a cooking background it never even occurred to me not to do layering and it was my natural way of doing things.
But, you, I'm excited for my order of your liquid to arrive. I'm excited to taste your stuffs.
Good, your package cleared customs on Friday, so it shouldn't take it very long to get through the rest (assuming your customs are quick)
You shipped that so super fast, I am impressed :)
Customs here could be 5 minutes or a month, sadly getting it from the airport to where I live half an hour drive away tends to take a couple of weeks.
I call all of my orders from abroad "Post steeped"
I'd like to throw in that FA Fuji Apple is the apple that you're looking for. I'd finally bought some and tried it myself recently and was just completely blown away. It's juicy. It's cloudy. It's almost creamy. It has a green apple-y smell if thag makes sense. The only thing it needs is something sour (FA Lemon Sicily or Cold Pressed Lime etc.) To really balance it out. This flavor is absolutely gold. Endrant
You might like this. :)
Great post!
I've been doing this in my chase for a "fresh blueberries" juice and have made progress, but nothing i yet consider what I'm aiming for. What i do have so far works fairly well as a base to be added to bakery flavors but that elusive REAL juicy fresh blueberry still evades me.
One road I'm going to keep pursuing was a happy coincidence. I have a basic, nothing special, blackberry with light menthol juice. Upon the second tasting of my most recent blueberry attempt i thought "what the heck, why not" and filled about a fifth of the tank with the blackberry. Not anything significant towards Real Blueberry, but the layers of black and blue is pretty tasty so i have that going for me. 😀
I also just got a few flavor orders in and I now have FW and INW blueberry to test and try to incorporate if appropriate. The search continues! 😊
I too am chains a nice blueberry... I think I'm pretty close with two parts TFA wild blueberry to one part LAN Natural Blueberry. The TFA one has some nice fresh and tart notes, but not quite as sour as I like my blueberries to taste. The LAN Natural is quite sweet, borderline blueberry pancake syrup. Together they're freaking great and I can't get enough of it.. I just need something to punch out that bitter/sour note... perhaps just a very slight addition of cranberry or pomegranate. Going to be testing this ASAP.
Excellent post! While not being nearly this scientific about it, I find most fruit/berry flavors benefit from combining multiple versions/brands, as long as they bring different notes to the mix.
Combining FA Strawberry with TFA Strawberry Ripe for example does absolutely nothing for me, it's virtually the same flavor, while either combined with CAP Sweet Strawberry brings out a much more realistic strawberry than any of them standing alone.
FA Bilberry and TFA Blueberry Wild are both pretty decent imitations, but combined create a flavor much closer to the real thing. A touch of TFA Blueberry Extra gives it a bit more candy like character, while some lemon brings out a freshly picked feel to it.
I find it a lot harder to combine creams successfully. The flavors aren't as "in your face" as fruits tend to be, steeping alters the chemistry significantly and the outcome depends heavily on what the other flavors in the mix are. For me it's very hit and miss based, especially with creams that don't stand well on their own.