you leave out the nic.
a few months ago i bought 3 bottles of ripe vapes VCT at a convention. 2 of them were 3 mg and one was 0 mg because they ran out of 3. good stuff, but not something i can vape all the time. I ended up only vaping 1 bottle of 3 mg and threw the others in a drawer. today i found them and filled up my hurricane with some of the 3mg. It tasted like rusted metal and vanilla. so i nic'd the bottle of 0, gave it a shake till my arm fell asleep and filled up the hurricane on a fresh build. holy fucking balls man, so god dam good. so from now on, once and a while im gana mix up a few bottles of 0mg for some of my more savory vapes and stash it for a while. i mean im probably not the first to discover this. but i figured id post in case there is someone like me that didn't connect the dots.
Tl;DR nic oxidizes over time, you can steep 0mg for like..a while.
This is great advice, kudos.
I guessing there are "stable" and "unstable" flavorings as well. Perhaps none as reactive as nicotine, but it might be good to know what flavors "spoil" and which ones last effectively forever.
The standard that has been accepted for expiration is 1 year. I've tested beyond this, and that really is a good limit to stick to.
How can you have a bottle of juice you like sit idle for one year. My records like 2 months
Yes! I don't hear this talked about a ton which is weird to me. I've been DIYing for a long time and only recently thought to try this. It made a big difference for me even though I'm using some pretty clean mic base.
I now mix my ADVs in big nic-less bottles and just add the nic when I put some in a 30ml.
I've only been diy-ing for about 2 months now, just mixing up a bottle at a time when I need it because I think the juices I make taste just fine right out of the gate. But recently a local head shop caught wind of my juice through a friend that I make juice for and they want me to mix for them. So in the last week I've had to assess how I can step up my production efficiently. It took me an hour just to mix up the only 10 bottles I had last week because I was not prepared and had to mix them one by one. This is kind of a game changer for me. But this also means I'm going to need a better scale, capable of larger quantities. In the meantime, I'll just mass mix my flavorings to add vg/nic later, but your suggestion would be ideal.
Mixing a big bottle of the flavors then adding at the total percent of your recipe works great and saves a lot of time.
We're having facepalm levels of nomenclature fails going on in here and I'm worried this is going to misinform new mixers.
You aren't steeping the juice without nic, because "steeping" doesn't occur without the presence of nicotine in the solution.
That's the beginning and end of this thread. What you are observing is juice that, for its own specific properties, gets nasty after steeping for too long. The nic free juice has just sat there doing nothing all of this time, because nicotine is the crucial ingredient in the chemical process we (erroneously) call steeping. We really don't fully understand the process, but nicotine is necessary for it to occur.
Are you saying that 0mg juice doesn't steep? Cause I would say time can definitely blend flavors even in non-nic juice
That is correct. 0mg will not steep. The flavors will homogenize, but that isn't the same thing. You should also notice the 0mg doesn't change color very much; if at all.