The purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a flavor and it's many uses.
We're not just looking for you to post recipes you have containing the flavor of the week, but looking for you to share your process as you develop a new juice using the flavor of the week.
This should help us all to better understand how certain flavors interact, and give us all a launching point to perhaps discovering new wonderful recipes. Please post new recipes created using this flavor as well as any and all tasting notes as main posts. Thought process is encouraged also.
This thread will NOT be in contest mode so the best flavors and reviews of those should move their way towards the top.
While I definitely encourage you to branch out with this flavor and use some more rare flavors, I would encourage everyone to keep it in mind that others will not be able to try your recipe and comment or offer assistance if they do not have the flavors you are using. I would also encourage you to use this week's flavor as the "main" flavor in your recipe although this is not required.
You BETTER sample and offer tasting notes on your recipe. Good luck to everyone!
This Week's Flavor is: Dragon Fruit
Unlike in the previous monthly contest thread, I am NOT limiting this to any specific flavor from any specific vendor. After all, our goal here is to come up with perhaps some unique uses of the weekly flavor or combinations others may not have thought of before. This should allow for maximum participation as well!
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1% TFA Dragon Fruit added to almost any fruit mix seems to blend flavors together. Not just one fruit to another, but also fruits to other flavors. I've got an almost ADV that's cinnamon apple danish, for example. Tasted like Cinnamon Danish + Apple without Dragon Fruit. With Dragon Fruit, the apple and cinnamon combined to make it really taste like the apple cinnamon filling in a danish.
You can thank Triethyl Citrate for that, another glycerol similar to Triacetin & VG/PG.
TeC acts like Triacetin(MTS, Smooth) in that it helps emulsify & blend flavours together. c:
This guy fucks. (that is the best reddit compliment ever, right?)
Dude, will you do an audiobook of everything you know about compounds and volatiles? If you do, I promise I will bump that shit in traffic.
Probably, lmao.
I'd have to tag-team with /u/abdada on that. He knows so much more than I. (edit: maybe /u/Returnity?)
Here you go, tho. Isoamyl acetate is a compound with a "sweet fruity, banana-like with a green ripe nuance" You can find it in TFA Ripe Banana, TFA Acaí, Banana Cream/NutBread/Fosters, Cantaloupe, Dragonfruit, Honey, Raspberry, Quince, Watermelon, Watermelon Candy, and about another 20 of TFA's flavourants.
In the Carpet Cleaning industry, I use a very similar & related compound, Amyl Acetate. It smells like overripe, sickly-sweet bananas. According to Wiki, you can find Amyl Acetate sometimes in conjunction with Isoamyl Acetate in flavourants. I haven't found any that use Amyl Acetate yet, but I also havent really looked. IDK if I'd want to vape it tho, knowing what I know down below:
I use 100% pure Amyl Acetate as a Paint, Oil, & Grease (POG) remover. It's real effective, but also a pain in the ass to flush out. You have to flush, flush, flush that shit out of the carpet. I should be making a 30-50% dilution of it, but I know what I'm doing & have better equipment than the average carpet cleaner.
ah same here, but to really make the danish and cinnamon blend to perfection. I actually use a small amount of joy as well.
:)
I finally got some Joy two weeks ago and haven't really played with it yet (tried it as a standalone at 1%, 2%, and 4% - I do not recommend), but am planning to do the same, to sort of turn my danish into more of a fritter.
I'm going to throw in INW Dragonfruit. Skid had this in a recipe and I love adding it in other fruit mixes. It's a little different than TFA's, but more accurate to the name.
My favorite recipe I have with it is a raspberry-apple blend.
2.5% FA Fuji
2.5% FW Razzleberry
1% INW Raspberry (Malina)
1% INW Dragonfruit
.5% INW Cactus
The Dragonfruit helps add a little sweetness to counterbalance the tartness of Fuji and INW Raspberry. The cactus is just for juiciness.
As usual I'm finding myself 2nd guessing which INW flavor I have. I got my Raspberry at Gremlin and it does not say Malina or Concentrate. That's not the same one you have is it? They just have 2, regular (mine) and Mailna Concentrate? Thanks for posting this BTW, looks awesome. INW DF will be on my next order. I want to try this.
Hmm..I would assume it's the right one. It's easily the more popular raspberry, so I would think Rich would have that one on the site. /u/gremlinjuice is this correct?
:) Malina is Polish for Raspberry. What you have is Inawera's Raspberry concentrate. And it is some seriously yummy flavor!
Great choice! Dragon fruit makes an excellent emulsifier. I use TFA DF in a lot of recipes from 1-5% to round out strawberries or tone down an acidic flavor in favor of a well rounded, fruitier out come.
I first learned of magical dragon fruit when making a banana cream, sweet cream and strawberry mix. My strawberry always lost flavor and got super duper harsh. (Straw. Ripe) A small amount of dragon fruit breathed new life into the mix and made it a whole lot tastier.
I've also found that dragon fruit can require some steep time, unlike most of my fruits.
Good luck, vape on. :)
I'm only familiar with INW DF, and I use it as an actual forefront flavor. When people normally mention DF, they mean TFA and are using it as a fruit "blender."
Do all of the DFs have this characteristic, or is it TFA that has the magic dose of triethyl citrate that does the job?
Since no one replied to you, it's mostly the triethyl citrate. INW DF doesn't seem to have that same property, so I'm kind of hesitant to say it would contain TC. It's also present in TFA Strawberry, which I throw in a lot of fruit mixes at .5-1% if dragonfruit wouldn't work. I wouldn't be surprised if it's present in INW Cactus as well.
Oh no, my least favorite flavor. It takes over everything. I know, I know.......
Honestly I'm not a big fan either, that said I usually only use about 1% or less per mix (when I use it).
Recently I tasted a mix I made maybe two months ago, with 7% df. Not that bad.
How do you feel about pineapple? From my experience, TFA and CAP Golden pineapple both have a bad habit of taking over (especially TFA) and Dragon Fruit seems to make this worse. I have a friend who hates pineapple and she likes a mix that has 1% Dragon Fruit but says that one using it as the main flavor tastes like pineapple and is therefore nasty. I'm no deeperDiY guy, but I suspect they have some of the same molecules.
I love pineapple but you're right, they also tend to take over. But with a flavor I can handle better. If /u/abdada were around he could tell us if they share some molecules. But I tend to think like you do, they probably do.
You are correct about them sharing some of the same components. You can compare them with this TFA MSDS listing.
Excuse my noobiness, but maybe someone can help me?...i can't taste strawberry, but i've heard, that small percentage of dragonfruit makes strawberry stand out more, At what percentages should i mix tfa strawberry, tfa strawberry ripe, tfa dragonfruit, to try for the last time to make sure i really can't taste strawberry (i've already tried lots of variations, and i can just barely taste strawberry...more like sweetness of it, and not the taste).
Okay, I'm pretty new to the scene but this is getting really good reviews from my peers:
45PG/55VG (I prefer near 50/50 blends but that's up to you)
Dragonfruit (TFA/TPA) - 3%
Strawberry (ripe) (TFA/TPA) - 8%
Vanilla bean ice cream (TFA/TPA) [note: contains Acetyl Propionyl] - 3.5%
I'm also in the process of steeping a bottle of this recipe with 4% White Grape (FA), and I will report back on that in the next day or two. If I don't like the way this turns out, I will be going back to the first recipe!
Ahah I made a similar recipe at random yesterday. But I think I have like 5% DF and 7 Strawberry Ripe. The VBIC was also lower.
I don't like the flavor by itself, but have used it to get certain effects.
I have added CAP Dragonfruit at 0.7% to a cream & custard base to simulate the tang of yogurt. Other ingredients covered any fruit taste from the dragonfruit, leaving it to only had a tangy bite.
Im late to the thread but my go to shake and vape is a Dragonfruit BonBon. 2 flavour mix:
15% TFA Toasted Marshmallow 5% TFA Dragonfruit
Mix at anywhere from 60-80 VG
It was a nice little Botboy recipe i was lucky enough to encounter.