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The "Cream" Spectrum
submitted almost 10 years ago by ErantyInt

As we are all aware, there are an absolute glut of cream/dairy/custard flavors available from any and all flavor manufacturers. I see a lot of times where one is suggested over another, and usually with good reason. I thought it would be an excellent idea to put all of them on a scale with maybe TFA Dairy/Milk on the low end (milky, slightly sour) and the most eggy, creamy, diacetyl-filled custard on the other side (TPA French Vanilla Deluxe)?

Before undertaking this, it'd probably be pretty important to have a measure or two of what we're looking for:

  • Vanilla Content
  • Eggy or Creamy?
  • Sweetness

Is this even possible? Are there too many variables to put them on a single scale?

Any input is appreciated, I'm just trying to make some sort of easy tool for "What cream/custard do I put in when my goal is X?"

EDIT:

##DOES ANYONE HAVE A PAID SURVEY MONKEY ACCOUNT?##

Not including OOO flavors, there's 48 flavor results. Without a paid account, I cannot host a survey this size. If it comes to it, I will pay for one month of Pro ($26 USD) for 30 days, hoping we can spread this survey through DIY, ECR, and ECF. As many responses as we can get in that timeframe will hopefully give us the data we want.

EDIT2:

I think it's best to isolate the individual qualities people look for in various creams, milks, and custards. Assigning them a low numerical value (ex. 0-3) and plotting them on a spectrum/bar graph seems to be the clearest way to show the data.

EDIT3:

The list! I'm thinking of starting a SurveyMonkey to list each flavor as a question, and then sub questions would be "Vanilla 0-3, Creamy 0-3, Milky 0-3, etc" and an option to say "I have never used this flavor."

CAP

  • Bavarian Cream
  • Butter Cream
  • French Vanilla (Acetoin/AP)
  • French Vanilla v2
  • Marshmallow
  • NY Cheesecake
  • Simply Vanilla
  • Sweet Cream
  • Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
  • Vanilla Custard (Acetoin/AP)
  • Vanilla Custard v2
  • Vanilla Whipped Cream
  • Whipped Cream

LA

  • Bavarian Cream
  • Cheesecake NY Style
  • Cream Cheese Icing
  • Marshmallow
  • Vanilla Butternut
  • Vanilla Flavor
  • Vanilla Flavor (VG)

TFA/TPA

  • Bavarian Cream
  • Cheesecake
  • Dairy Milk
  • DX Bavarian Cream
  • DX Sweet Cream
  • French Vanilla Cream
  • French Vanilla Deluxe (Acetoin/AP)
  • French Vanilla II
  • Malted Milk
  • Marshmallow
  • Meringue
  • Sweet Cream
  • Vanilla Bean Gelato
  • Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
  • Vanilal Custard
  • Vanilla Swirl
  • Vanillin 10%
  • Whipped Cream
  • White Choclate

FA

  • Catalan Cream
  • Condensed Milk
  • Cream Fresh
  • Custard
  • Marshmallow
  • Meringue
  • Vanilla Bourbon
  • Vanilla Classic
  • Vanilla Tahity
  • Vienna Cream

FW

  • Bavarian Cream
  • Butter Cream
  • Cheesecake
  • French Vanilla
  • Marshmallow
  • Milk
  • Sweet Cream
  • Tres Leches
  • Vanilla Bean Icre Cream
  • Vanilla Custard
  • Whipped Cream
  • White Chocolate

INA

  • Vanilla
  • Vanilla Classic

FLV

  • Cream

OOO

  • Cheesecake
  • Cream PG
  • Cream VG
  • Cream Blend I
  • Cream Blend II
  • Custard
  • French Vanilla
  • Malted Milk
  • Marshmallow
  • Marshmallow Vanilla
  • Milkshake Vanilla
  • Sweet Cream
  • Sweet Ice Cream
  • Vanilla
  • Vanilla Butter
  • Vanilla Cream
  • Vanilla Frosting
  • Vanilla Pudding
  • Vanilla Ice Cream Shake
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3 points
 
by RuntDastardlyalmost 10 years ago

I love this idea! Like a Custard "Flavor Bible". It'd be nice if people could add in specific "affinities" too!

3 points
 
by ErantyIntalmost 10 years ago

Yeah like "TFA Dairy/Milk" "Used in: Cereals, Flavored Milk, Milkshake" etc.

3 points
 
by chryskrossalmost 10 years ago

This would be very useful to have. I love the graphs you added in your edit.

There would need to be a lot of input from a huge number of diy'ers to make it accurate.

A shared database would be easiest, but could be easily manipulated. I can't think of a reason why someone would want to, though.

Perhaps a complex survey would yield great results to compile for a db, but getting a large number of submissions could be vexing.

I'm just rambling here but I really like this idea and hope you are able to do something with it.

2 points
 
by nomacjackalmost 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I have no idea how to do it, but I support this idea to the fullest. It would be super helpful

4 points
 
by ErantyIntalmost 10 years ago

Well, lets get the ball rolling with a list of all the creams we can think of. Then we can start splitting them out. :)

CAP

  • Bavarian Cream
  • Butter Cream
  • French Vanilla (Acetoin/AP)
  • French Vanilla v2
  • Marshmallow
  • NY Cheesecake
  • Simply Vanilla
  • Sweet Cream
  • Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
  • Vanilla Custard (Acetoin/AP)
  • Vanilla Custard v2
  • Whipped Cream

~~CAP Flavored~~

  • ~~Creamy Yogurt~~
  • ~~Egg Nog~~
  • ~~Greek Yogurt~~
  • ~~Horchata~~
  • ~~Irish Cream~~
  • ~~Orange Creamsicle~~
  • ~~Peaches & Cream~~
  • ~~Pralines & Cream~~
2 points
 
by ErantyIntalmost 10 years ago

LA

  • Bavarian Cream
  • Cheesecake NY Style
  • Cream Cheese Icing
  • Marshmallow
  • Vanilla Butternut
  • Vanilla Flavor
  • Vanilla Flavor (VG)

~~LA Flavored~~

  • ~~Banana Cream~~
  • ~~Banana Cream (clear)~~
  • ~~Cool Creme de Menthe~~
  • ~~Eggnog~~
  • ~~Horchata~~
  • ~~Irish Cream~~
  • ~~Irish Cream (VG)~~
  • ~~Orange Cream~~
  • ~~Pralines & Cream~~
2 points
 
by ErantyIntalmost 10 years ago

TFA/TPA

  • Bavarian Cream
  • Cheesecake
  • Dairy Milk
  • DX Bavarian Cream
  • DX Sweet Cream
  • French Vanilla Cream
  • French Vanilla Deluxe (Acetoin/AP)
  • French Vanilla II
  • Malted Milk
  • Marshmallow
  • Meringue
  • Sweet Cream
  • Vanilla Bean Gelato
  • Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
  • Vanilal Custard
  • Vanilla Swirl
  • Vanillin 10%
  • Whipped Cream
  • White Choclate

~~TFA/TPA Flavored~~

  • ~~Banana Cream~~
  • ~~Dulce de Leche~~
  • ~~DX Banana Cream~~
  • ~~Egg Nog~~
  • ~~Greek Yogurt~~
  • ~~Horchata~~
  • ~~Horchata (Smooth)~~
  • ~~rish Cream~~
  • ~~Orange Cream~~
2 points
 
by ErantyIntalmost 10 years ago

INA

  • Vanilla
  • Vanilla Classic

FLV

  • Cream

~~FLV Flavored~~

  • ~~Greek Yogurt~~
  • ~~Milk & Honey~~
1 points
 
by psykialmost 10 years ago

FA

  • Cream Fresh
  • Custard
  • Marshmallow
  • Meringue
  • Vanilla Classic
  • Vienna Cream
1 points
 
by Plonqoralmost 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Catalan Cream

1 points
 
by nomacjackalmost 10 years agoOne of "The Damned"

TFA vanilla whipped cream

1 points
 
by ErantyIntalmost 10 years ago

I can't find this flavor, other than just TFA/TPA Whipped Cream. Link? :)

2 points
 
by juice_junkiealmost 10 years ago

Vaping zone or bakers flavors has a few as well. Cream, cream Charlotte, cream liquor, cream brulee, and caramel cream puff. What about flavorwest? This is gonna be a task!

1 points
 
by ErantyIntalmost 10 years ago

Do they make their own flavors, or blend flavors using other manufacturers? I'm even hesitant to include OOO because I'm fairy certain some of their stuff is just concentrated FW.

2 points
 
by juice_junkiealmost 10 years ago

Vapingzone is bakers flavors. They order them from russia which takes about 2.5 months to get and yes I know this from experience. They're flavors are highly concentrated, almost like medicine flower. They're cream flavors are amazing and some of them u can use just drops to taste the effect. Especially the cream Charlotte!

1 points
 
by surfishermanalmost 10 years ago

Good idea , only problem is for one person something can taste very sweet and to another not sweet enough but i say do it anyway .

Will help nonetheless.

1 points
 
by mikarmalmost 10 years ago

Taste is definitely subjective. Creams are weird too. Any cereal w/ milk flavor I've ever tried from a vendor tastes like spoiled milk to me and also my friend. I've managed to make some cereal vapes that were tasty, so it definitely isn't all 'milks' for my tongue that are terrible.

2 points
 
by surfishermanalmost 10 years ago

Thanks for your comment.

1 points
 
by dch13almost 10 years ago

I absolutely love this idea! Just as a thought, any reason you prefer survey monkey over, say, Google Forms or another free platform? You get a nice spreadsheet export with Forms.

I don't have a lot of experience with the different flavours, but I do love data, so I'll be checking back here to see how it's going!

1 points
 
by kalligatoralmost 10 years ago

I think Google Form Publisher should do the job sufficiently.

edit. Spoke too soon, it only offers simplistic layouts. Survey Monkey has an awesome MATRIX OF DROPDOWN MENUS feature but it's on Pro.

1 points
 
by vanman33almost 10 years ago

Has this idea gotten any traction? I would really like some advice on what cream flavor to get!

1 points
 
by ErantyIntalmost 10 years ago

I'm searching for a better survey site, and kind of on hiatus for the holidays. I can recommend this guide in the meantime:

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_14502784381349&key=9b4efad421c8b103b2c94b796db973b0&libId=ii8yc3y30100sadk000MA3b8fodii7yhz&subId=fc9dadf10f573330536674790902f002&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fvapingunderground.com%2Fthreads%2Fmy-notes-on-flavourart-tutti-frutti.2486%2F&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fmamajsflavorshop.com%2Fheadinclouds-my-notes-on-flavor-descriptions%2F&title=my%20notes%20on%20FlavourArt%20Tutti%20Frutti%20%7C%20Vaping%20Underground%20Forums%20-%20An%20Ecig%20and%20Vaping%20Forum&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fmamajsflavorshop.com%2Fheadinclouds-my-notes-on-flavor-descriptions%2F

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