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Considering selling my DIY, legal questions and loopholes?
submitted almost 10 years ago by dbs14

Everybody wants some. But i dont want to be illegal. Unsure where to look for regulations. Already have an LLC for a business i own.

Can i just sell them my services and the bottle but make it clear on the label that the ejuice is a gift, or something similar?

they are all friends, and probably wouldnt care, but if a kid or dog got into it i dont want a pissed off mom suing me...

Does anyone know if i need a license or certification to make and sell diy? And does anyone know any loopholes?

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by fearliathmoralmost 10 years ago

There is much more to making a retail eliquid line than just mixing and bottling. I would stick to selling to friends and family or just stay a hobbyist. The risk to yourself and your assets and more important the hobby itself should be our main concern. To me not worth the short term gain. I also would not be investing in the industry until we can more accurately predict the future - otherwise you may find yourself paying off the investments for years to come. Investing in a small business is risky enough in industries that are stable and well entrenched. Once vaping is safe from a ban or severe legislation, investment will be a great opportunity.

1 points
 
by Werewolfdadalmost 10 years ago

Is the investment in a retail juice line really that large?

1 points
 
by fearliathmoralmost 10 years ago

If you want to make it right the initial investment to me is not the sort of cash most vapers will have just hanging around. No matter what your set up is, if you continue to re-invest as you operate (esp with you assuming there will be no adjustments in the market to come) you may well get deeper in debt or spend more of your savings right up to when you have to shut down.

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by queuetuealmost 10 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

The "gift loophole" wouldn't help you one bit in court in a liability scenario - and it would make you look even worse, since it looks like you're trying to pull an obvious scam.

Most importantly, we're not your lawyer. If you don't have one to ask, then that's problem 1.

3 points
 
by cjinctalmost 10 years ago

It all depends on what state you're in. Go to your state's legislative website and do searchs for electronic cigarette, vapor products and nicotine. That will tell you age requirements, tax requirements, any licensing requirements (retail and manufacturing). Also check your SOS website to see if your LLC is registered for that in the appropriate category and check whether your liability insurance would cover it as well.

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by TheVapeScapealmost 10 years ago

You are putting yourself at risk of losing personal property and assets if you do not sell under an LLC company. The LLC protects you personally, but your business will sill be liable if an injury or death occurs as a direct result of your juice. This is why you should carry insurance. The best thing to do is speak with an attorney or insurance agent and seek advice from them.

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by fearliathmoralmost 10 years ago

My understanding is you will be liable for any damages or harm caused from selling DIY. You would have to sell it without NIC to be legal but even then you would be liable for any harm. Nic is strictly controlled and I believe that in fact the sale is not legal unless you are licensed to purchase the nic and register the products you sell/make with the same...So it is still the wild west and you have to consider yourself asserting your right to civil disobedience based on an unfair law or the harm reduction/health benefits. That said I think you should have a proper area set up to make it safely and research what can be done to make the best product possible with as little chance of harm or damage to your customers and the industry itself.

1 points
 
by DrDoobie22almost 10 years ago

I sold a bottle to a friends friend and now Ive got people idk asking for liquid. Im ready to just not sell to anyone and be completely self reliant or if I do sell, just to very close friends.

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by fearliathmoralmost 10 years ago

That is what you have to do. I gave one of my wife's friends some juice to help her out. She agreed to tell no one and keep it to herself. Needless to say she was letting everyone try it (including a couple b+ms) and has been telling my wife regularly her family or her friends want juice(you know they would want it for free but even if they paid it is not worth dealing with vapers irl imo). Give em an inch eh.

1 points
 
by firebolt0777almost 10 years agoMixologist

IMO, the creator shouldn't be held liable.
Are cleaning product companies held liable when someone's unwatched kid gets into the bleach and ammonia?
But, welcome to America

0 points
 
by Stupidskyalmost 10 years ago

Post six recipes. The DIY community will tell you if you should sell it or if you should stop trying to profit off your junk recipes.

1 points
 
by dbs14almost 10 years ago

Recipe 1: Vanilla Swirl, 100% name_100%Vanilla Recipe 2: Vanilla Swirl, 95% name_almost 100%

etc...

1 points
 
by Stupidskyalmost 10 years ago

Put it in a plastic bottle, claim to have 250+ WOW!!! FLAVORZZZ, and you'll have the shitty ejuice company you've always wanted. Get that cash grab while the gettings good because, you know, fuck 'em. I'll take a downvote for the truth. If you had anything worth selling you'd post it, you aren't losing any money here. If all you want is to make money, do it before the regulations kick in and have fun taking money from suckers. Everyone will still be here when you're done to post the recipes your friends love, an they'll never have to know that amazing fruit loop recipe you have isn't actually yours. ;-)

1 points
 
by dbs14almost 10 years ago

Does this pass your reddit test? 5% BB Wild 4% NY Cheesecake 2% Toasted MM 1% Lemon Juicy

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