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A story of Strawberry, vanilla and beggars. (titles are hard)
submitted almost 10 years ago by Cubicle_haWk

Hello DIY community!

I'm on a long and dreadful journey to understand my own flavor palette (/sigh) SKIP TO THE BOTTOM IF YOU ALREADY HAVE STRAWBERRY CREAMS/CUSTARDS down pat

I'm currently on a strawberry custard kick and haven't been able to really clone the flavor I get out of Unicorn Milk. I cannot put my finger on it (I know Cuttwood isn't this sub's favorite vendor,) but I really really like the stuff.

I've got two batches setup of cuttwoodspy's Unicorn milk 'clone' steeping but my 3 week batch still isn't the same. My first 60ml batch had:

-20ml go directly to the steep closet

-20ml go into the crock pot @140 for 5 hours

-20ml shake n' vape.

The 'best' tasting is the conventional steep closet- after about 13 days it tastes the same as it did after the next 13 days (no noticeable gain after the two week period)

Its good a good strawberry custard flavor, but doesn't actually have what I'm chasing. Its the overall sweetness I guess, but at the same time cuttwoods commercial product is overall 'creamier' than mine as well.

I'm open to anything new or some ADV someone has cooked up. Going to start a few new batches tonight/tomorrow. This is what I have:

Dragonfruit (TFA)

DX Banana Cream (LA)

Lemon Juicy (CAP)

Orange Cream (TFA)

Blueberry Wild (TFA)

Strawberry (TFA)

Ripe Strawberry (TFA)

Sweet Strawberry (CAP)

Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP)

Vanilla Custard v2 (CAP)

French Vanilla (CAP)

Bavarian Cream (TFA)

Vanilla Swirl (TFA)

Whipped Cream (CAP)

Whipped Cream (TFA)

NY Cheesecake (CAP)

Vanilla Ice Cream (CAP)

Sweet Cream (CAP)

Sweet Cream (TFA)

Butter Cream (CAP)

Toasted Marshm (TFA)

Marshmallow (CAP)

Marshmallow (FA)

Dulce De Leche (TFA)

NY Cheesecake (CAP)

Coconut (FA)

Graham Cracker (CAP)

I've also tried /u/fizzmustard 's Mustard Milk- it was surprisingly good even as a shake n' vape but i've made several alterations to that and can't find what i'm looking for. I recently just bought all the marshmallows and creams and haven't been able to try them as 'variations' or 'additives' to the known recipes. My last batch was the Unicorn Milk with a bit more sweet strawberry, ZERO graham cracker and a few extra drops of cream. (i'll crop in my batch notes as a comment, its a PDF so not sure what i'm gonna do)

ALSO- as a last note. I'd LOVE to try some DIY creations if you feel you have a good strawberry (or banana) cream/custard. Or shit, if you have something you feel is an ADV straight vanilla custard I'd love to try that as well. I'd pay 100% of shipping cost but don't really wanna pay outright for a DIY that could be a bust.

If you've thought to yourself lately, "Man, I'd really like a second opinion on this juice and would give a small bottle away for free if they'd pay shipping" - I got you covered.

PM me and I can simply email you a UPS printout (yes, UPS not USPS, and US only otherwise my UPS bill is gonna start getting ridiculous)

Thanks everyone, Having a blast at this so far but not really creating anything I can be proud of yet. I tried making a nana cream and it was .. horrible.

(last note- beggars can't be chosers but I usually vape 3mg nic- if you have nicotine-free bottles that works fine too, I can add my own. I just want to try some different variations from the DIY community w/o paying $1 per ml)

Thanks everyone

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by PM_ME_PANTYPICS_GRLSalmost 10 years ago

I'm not sure if anyone is going to go through the trouble of sending you juice when they could just post their recipe and let you make it yourself. You seem to have enough ingredients to make most of the popular strawberry cream/custard recipes.

Having said that, I have a couple suggestions. I'll preface this by admitting I've never tried cuttwoodspys unicorn milk clone. ~~However, I'm a HUGE fan of /u/NotCharlesManson's Unicorn Milk Clone.~~ I'm a huge fan of /u/Glitchlol's Unicorn Milk clone. It's been quite awhile since I've bought juice so I won't try to compare it to the real Unicorn Milk, but I will say it's very good. When I make it, I change the 5% cheesecake it calls for to 3.5%, but that's just personal preference.

Since you have CAP Vanilla Custard v1, TFA Cheesecake, and TFA Bavarian and Sweet Creams, I'd highly recommend experimenting with those until you find something you like. In my experience, those are the tastiest creams and custards.

I'll finish by posting the recipes for my latest strawberry creams and custards in my own search for a DIY recipe that fits my flavor palette.

PG/VG - 30/70

Nicotine - 3 mg/ml

TFA Strawberry Ripe - 8%

TFA Cheesecake - 6%

TFA Marshmallow - 2%


PG/VG - 20/80

Nicotine - 3 mg/ml

TFA Strawberry - 6%

TFA Vanilla Custard - 3%

TFA Bavarian Cream - 2%

TFA Sweet Cream - 1.5%

TFA Marshmallow - 1.5%


PG/VG - 30/70

Nicotine - 3 mg/ml

CAP Sweet Strawberry - 6%

CAP Vanilla Custard - 8%


Good luck in your mixing, I hope some of this will be helpful!

*** edit: Added a link to /u/NotCharlesManson's Unicorn clone and fixed the percentages in one of my recipes. *** edit 2: Mixed up whos Unicorn Clone I've been vaping for the last few months. Oops! Sorry /u/NotCharlesManson. I'll have to try your recipe next!

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by NotCharlesMansonalmost 10 years ago

Mine doesn't call for 5% cheesecake..

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by PM_ME_PANTYPICS_GRLSalmost 10 years ago

You're right. It's actually /u/Glitchlol's clone. I'm not sure how I mixed that up. But I guess I've never tried yours /u/NotCharlesManson! I'll edit my post and fix that.

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by NotCharlesMansonalmost 10 years ago

Haha it's all good.

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by Cubicle_haWkalmost 10 years ago

After doing some digging it seems I've got a celeb in my thread :D

Could you add some insight to the FA Meringue flavor? See anything I could possibly sub it for?

EDIT: Also I see Graham Cracker in your recipe (as well as Cuttwood Spy's)- after a shotglass water taste-test I thought maybe this was a flavor I was trying to get away from. Any insight on graham cracker and why its used on the strawberry mixes?

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by NotCharlesMansonalmost 10 years ago

Celebrity?! HA! Flattering, thanks. But, no. Maybe if fizz shows up.

Honestly, with FA Meringue, I'm afraid there is no substitute. It's just...really one of those flavors that are "perfect" the way they are. There's really else nothing like it that I've found. TFA recently released their version of Meringue, and while it's not a complete swing-and-a-miss, it's not nearly as good as FA. It tastes almost like powdered sugar, and I really haven't found another flavor like it.

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by NotCharlesMansonalmost 10 years ago

I just saw your edit about graham cracker. CAP Graham Cracker is a really good flavor at low percentages. It adds a little bit of spice and bite without being too distracting. If you try mine, drop the GC down to .75% if you mix lower than max VG. If you mix max, try it at 1% in that recipe. That recipe was one of the first I was really happy with, but I notice the GC too much now. It does lend a little something extra that I love to counter the richness of the creams. Without it, you'll just have a strawberry "custard" that feels like it's missing something.

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by Cubicle_haWkalmost 10 years ago

Man this nice, thank you!

JW if you have a personal reason for the 70/30 and 80/20 differences? (are these two diff recipes of your own? )

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by PM_ME_PANTYPICS_GRLSalmost 10 years ago

No problem man, I hope it'll help you some. I've only been mixing for a few months and it's only recently that I've been able to make any recipes of my own design that aren't disgusting so I'm still experimenting with different PG/VG ratios. If you have a preferred PG/VG ratio I'm sure you could use that with my recipes instead. And yeah, at the bottom those are 3 separate recipes I've been experimenting with lately. They're still works in progress, honestly. Sorry for not formatting my post very well and mixing up which recipe was which.

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by Cubicle_haWkalmost 10 years ago

No your post was very good man, I really appreciate it. (and I appreciate having your different batch %'s!)

I can't really find a difference in my batches from 70/30 to 80/20. I remember seeing someone say they could, so always kinda worried I'm doing something wrong.

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by poonstabberalmost 10 years ago

I mixed this up a few weeks ago and forgot about it. I sampled some last night and I was surprised at how smooth it had become. I'm not sure if it's too simple or what you're looking for, but here it is:

Strawberry Custard V1

Ingredient|% :---|---: Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA)|6 Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TPA)|3 Vanilla Custard v2 (CAP)|5

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by Cubicle_haWkalmost 10 years ago

Trying it tonight, naming it, POONSTABBER v1 :)

I'll PM you results, Thanks bud

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by A_Goonalmost 10 years ago

Same recipe I use except with 2% Dragonfruit (for a sharper strawberry) and %2 Bavarian cream (which seems to mellow everything out a bit, adds to the creams). I'll often add a bit of cheesecake graham crust, which is a flavor I'm just basically obsessing over along with vanilla bean ice cream, too. I actually use less Vanilla custard unless I'm planning to let it sit for a while as I feel like a cured Vanilla custard is infinitely better than fresh.

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by poonstabberalmost 10 years ago

:) try giving it a 2 week steep if you can.

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