This company is newer (to my knowledge) and I'm sure they wouldn't mind some /r/DIY_eJuice business.
KillerFlavors.com (KF) - Natural 100% VG Flavorings
- 30% Baja (KF) - This flavor is hands down awesome. It is literally on point with Mountain Dew Baja Blast, fresh from Taco Bell. You will taste every aspect of the drink, the crisp citrus and bubbles are all there. If you are wasting time and $ trying to find the perfect baja blast recipe (I've seen it here recently), this may be it.
- 30% Strawberry Milkshake (KF) - This is my favorite flavor I have tried from KF, it is REALLY good. Strawberry milkshake is not the right name for this flavor imo, after a day steeping this is straight up strawberry yogurt that gives Dannon a run for their money. Once it is steeped the bottle doesn't last very long. This was the first flavoring to run dry and for good reason.
- 30% Chocolate Milkshake (KF) - This flavor is really good, reminds me of the small cartons of chocolate milk, kind of like a light chocolate milk, the milk is there but hardly noticeable. It tastes very accurate and leaves a nice smell of chocolate. This could combine well with other chocolate flavors to make a unique chocolate bar/ drink.
- 30% Bomb Pop (KF) - A Cherry, Lime, Blueraspberry flavor, not my favorite flavor from this order (don't like the real thing much either) but its still tasty to switch up and not bad as a vape. This flavor a very accurate portrayal that hits on all the described flavor notes. If bomb pop is your thing, you would probably love this.
- 30% Skittles (KF) - This flavor is also really accurate but not one of my favorites from the order, I think it is a little strong at 30%, dropped to 15-20% and it is better. Tastes like licking the shells of the red bag skittles with a sticky sweet exhale. It's very accurate, just not one of my favorites as a stand alone.
- 30% Birthday Cake (KF) - This was the worst of the order imo, it's terrible at 30% almost like chalk dust cake. I tried it at other lesser percentages (0.5% - 3%) and it was better, there was no notable differences in flavor other than it was weaker. This may be useful if you want a flavorless way to "thicken up" a cake batter recipe.
- 2% - 2.5% EM on all
- 2% - 2.5% Sweetener on all
- I have mixed these up stand alone more than once and typically let them steep 2 days to 2 weeks. I noticed there was not too much difference after the third day, but these are 100% VG flavorings, so steep to your liking.
- I recommend using a series mod (8.4v) for the flavors to really pop and coils to wick properly, the high VG makes it harder to wick if you mix with only VG.
I'm no Holmes but I have reason to believe KillerFlavors uses the same manufacturer as NorthWest Flavors (for sale on ECX), but Killer Flavors prices are much better.
I was considering just buying lots of the Baja flavoring, making a spin off ejuice line and cashing in on the n00bs.. but I'll leave that for another ejuice-trepreneur.
Enjoy!
TL;DR
- Better at 20% or more - Baja, Bomb Pop, Strawberry Milkshake, Chocolate Milkshake
- Better at 20% or less - Skittles
- Better at 0% - 3% - Birthday Cake
- 2% - 2.5% EM on all
- 2% - 2.5% Sweetener on all
Geez, do they all really require such high usage rates? 30% is sooooooooooo high.
I'm sure they don't, these were all tested standalone. I mixed them all at the same ratio each time. I tried them at different ratios and that's just where most of the flavors were best at imo, there isn't a noticeable difference between 20% and 30% other than the flavor is more apparent.
I like the Birthday Cake but at 3-5%. Never tried 30% with their flavors.
They discontinued my favorite flavor of theirs (CPT Crunch) without warning. Probably a DAP issue but it was amazing.
I mix most of their flavors at 10-15%. Also add 2% EM and 2% sucralose.
Their Vanilla Custard reminds me of VCV a lot. Haven't found a useable percentage. Their Caramel is decent in low %.
I'm getting ready to try out several of their flavors and Birthday Cake and Vanilla Custard are in the cart. So, would their Birthday Cake taste kind of like vanilla cupcake by Cap or TFA? Does it have that slight sourness that some vanilla birthday cakes have?
In terms of their Vanilla Custard, you associated it to VCV... what's VCV?
I have been looking for the perfect Baja blast recipe (I think you saw my post) but 30% flavor is crazy. I may have to check it out and see if it can still come through at the recommended 4-7%. Thanks for the info.
How long did you let them steep? VG flavors can definitely take longer to steep.
edit: bought Baja, Boysenberry, and Chocolate Milkshake. Fingers crossed they are good. I bought a 4oz baja blast because I could vape that all day!
30% is not required, the flavors are still good at 20%, they're very accurate but weaker at lower percentages (except the birthday cake). I ended up boosting the flavors to 30% after some initial feedback and got better feedback at the higher ratio, try them and mix to your liking.
Steep time varied between vaped straight away - 2 weeks. After 3 days the flavors become very bold and much more accurate, not too much change in flavor after that but these were single flavor mixes.
I think it was your post that I read, your mix looks really good, I haven't made your mix yet but Baja (KF) should be complimentary with what you already have, I was planning on combining them to try it.
You're going to enjoy the chocolate milkshake!
your doing some great work man and you have the right Idea.
Only thing I would suggest. is DEFINITELY star at LOW % and work up.
every time I test a flavor I start at .25% and work up from there. if I need to go above 10-15% to get the flavor to come out, I usually trash that flavoring bottle and look else where, as it will be subsequently useless to me in the long run.
Thanks, I appreciate the support! I understand, usually I do the same, especially when mixing with PG based flavorings (basically every other brand I've used), I even go below 0.25% in some recipes for varied flavor backing notes.
I guess my hope for these flavors was to be an easy rip, tip and ready to vape. So I tested them individually multiple times at different ratios, between ~1% and 30%. I originally started with a 20% blend, let some people try the good ones and the general consensus was to raise the flavor. I compare the 30% blend to a 30/70 (PG/VG) blend flavor wise, just without the PG, which is what it is obviously.
It was not my original intention to mix these flavors with others & to keep the VG as high as possible and flavors strong.